What is in US dairy? It feels like a poison.

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Anonymous wrote:I have it with US bread. There is something terrible in the wheat or the way bread is made. Now, I stick to imported flour and make my own bread.

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I don’t see why.

DP. Because it doensn't make sense. The PP is lumping all "US bread" into the same category, and appears to be blaming the wheat supply for the problem (thus her decision to import her flour from other countries). This is ludicrous because "US bread" encompasses a vast range of bread from ultraprocessed commercial bread loaded with preservatives in order to be shelf stable for months, to the relatively low processed whole grain loaf you can buy from a local bakery the day it was made using high quality ingredients (including wheat from a US mill). The PP claims that both of these would make her equally sick, but somehow the problem is solved by importing wheat from another country (unspecified -- there are countries with a good wheat supply and others I would assume to be inferior quality to the US) and baking her own bread. The other ingredients are presumably American.

Choosing to avoid breads with preservatives or enriched dough makes sense -- regardless of which country the ingredients come from, these breads have added ingredients that could in fact impact your health. And highly processed breads have less nutritional content in general. But there is ZERO reason to think it's due to US wheat (which would include both ultra processed flour from factory mills and small batch stone milled heritage flour from something like Hayden Flour Mills, plus your standard King Arthur or Bob's Red Mill which are both considered high quality even though they are from high-volume suppliers) or that wheat in other countries would be better. It's just a totally baseless theory.

It's annoying because people make claims like this all the time and it's often just based on paranoia, classism, and narcissism. US food supply has serious issues, but that doesn't mean the US doesn't have high quality food (there are more and better healthy food options in the US than in most of the world, we are spoiled for healthy food availability) or that food from literally any other country is automatically healthier (in many cases it is more likely to be contaminated, loaded with preservatives, or otherwise bad for you). The issue in the US is that we don't regulate the food industry very well and our regulation is designed for the benefit of a handful of huge corporations but not for smaller farmers or manufacturers, and definitely not for consumers.

That doesn't mean the "US bread" is slowly poisoning you.

Enrichment of flour is a problem.

Yes but it's not hard to fund unenriched wheat flour in the US. King Arthur, Bob's Red Mill, even Trader Joe's have organic flour that is available unenriched and unfortified. You don't have to buy specialty flour from another country to avoid enriched flour.

You can also find bakeries that exclusively use unenriched or other organic flours. Especially if you live in a major metropolitan area (and sometimes even if you don't) it's not that hard to find brea products without additives. It's not necessary to import all your flour and make your own bread -- we actually have tons of healthy food options in the US if you can afford to pay a little more.

The people who struggle are people on a budget dealing with skyrocketing food costs who don't really have any option except for the cheap, generic, mass produced foods, which are often most likely to be loaded with additives and preservatives, sprayed with chemicals, etc. If you are UMC you have the luxury of avoiding most of those foods without even trying that hard -- there are even grocery stores designed to exclude those foods from the shelves altogether so that you don't have to think about it.

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Milk is for cows. End of story.

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Anonymous wrote:I have it with US bread. There is something terrible in the wheat or the way bread is made. Now, I stick to imported flour and make my own bread.

This is pretty common with wheat products and the blame lies with glyphosate, which is doused in all American wheat but banned in the EU.

I suspect something similar with the dairy there. Their cows eat grass and corn with minimal chemicals. Ours eat corn that is genetically modified and sprayed with glyphosate.

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This. It’s nearly impossible to get truly organic bread in the US, unless it’s made with certain imported wheats.

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I just don't know how to help people who believe in fake news, conspiracy theories, or RFK Jr.

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Anonymous wrote:Milk is for baby cows, not humans. Cows have four stomachs, I believe.

Irrelevant. All of the human diet, with the exception of our own mother’s breast milk isn’t “made for humans”

Humans are the only mammals that drink milk after infancy.

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Anonymous wrote:There is something to it. I have known others who said the same.

Personally, I can eat pastries with wheat flour in France but can’t eat them in the US.

The reason could be the use of round up and other products from the company that starts with M.

they use round up in europe- its the wheat strain. they grow hard red wheat in the USA. have you tried only grass fed? if you are eating dannon/yopliait in France/Spain & not getting sick its mental b/c my kids who are sensitive still get sick in europe but they can eat more of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Milk is for baby cows, not humans. Cows have four stomachs, I believe.

Irrelevant. All of the human diet, with the exception of our own mother’s breast milk isn’t “made for humans”

Humans are the only mammals that drink milk after infancy.

We wouldn't be where we are at without our ancestors 10,000 years ago domesticating sheep and goats and drinking their milk.

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Anonymous wrote:Milk is for baby cows, not humans. Cows have four stomachs, I believe.

Irrelevant. All of the human diet, with the exception of our own mother’s breast milk isn’t “made for humans”

Humans are the only mammals that drink milk after infancy.

We wouldn't be where we are at without our ancestors 10,000 years ago domesticating sheep and goats and drinking their milk.

Most of the posters on DCUM would prefer going back about 50,000 years and live in caves as noble savages.

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Anonymous wrote:Milk is for baby cows, not humans. Cows have four stomachs, I believe.

Irrelevant. All of the human diet, with the exception of our own mother’s breast milk isn’t “made for humans”

Humans are the only mammals that drink milk after infancy.

We wouldn't be where we are at without our ancestors 10,000 years ago domesticating sheep and goats and drinking their milk.

Sheep and goat milk is much easier to digest actually