TJ sports vs. academics

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If a TJ kid goes to VT and a non TJ kid goes to MIT, is the latter more prepared for grad school?

MIT and Caltech have always been the lone two exceptions to the fairly ironclad rule that "TJ is *way* easier than undergrad".

Substitute Princeton for MIT and the answer is almost definitely "the TJ kid is more prepared".

Princeton is also considered pretty high rigor without grade inflation.

Fine, but TJ students report that TJ is more challenging than Princeton, or any other Ivy for that matter. The two exceptions are MIT and Caltech and that's it.

Do they now? How many? It would need to have four things happen for your statement to be remotely considered:

- kids graduated from tj
- kids attend an ivy
- the “kids” referenced above are a large enough number to be considered reliable (not a handful of kids)- many from each individual school
- the “kid” referenced above all reported their academic comparison to the above poster

Having A former TJ grad here or there tell A former TJ classmate something is not what helps evaluate if something is true. My guess is the prior poster asked 1 person “how does it compare to TJ’s rigor” and the kid mumbled back something which the poster took as gospel.

This is the fake TJ stuff that waters down TJ’s appearance in the eyes of others.

The person who replied here betrays that they aren’t very connected with TJ. It’s a matter of common knowledge among TJ grads that (again, except for MIT and Caltech) college is always easier than TJ.

Simply belonging to one of the TJ alumni Facebook groups would take care of this for you. And yes, it follows for Ivies as well. Stanford too.

You can keep arguing the point, but all that makes you is loud and wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a TJ kid goes to VT and a non TJ kid goes to MIT, is the latter more prepared for grad school?

MIT and Caltech have always been the lone two exceptions to the fairly ironclad rule that "TJ is *way* easier than undergrad".

Substitute Princeton for MIT and the answer is almost definitely "the TJ kid is more prepared".

Princeton is also considered pretty high rigor without grade inflation.

Fine, but TJ students report that TJ is more challenging than Princeton, or any other Ivy for that matter. The two exceptions are MIT and Caltech and that's it.

Princeton can absolutely be harder if you want it to be.

Sure, and so can many other schools. But it isn’t just by itself.

[Anonymous]

For those with sports as priority, base school is the way to go, where calculus is not required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a TJ kid goes to VT and a non TJ kid goes to MIT, is the latter more prepared for grad school?

MIT and Caltech have always been the lone two exceptions to the fairly ironclad rule that "TJ is *way* easier than undergrad".

Substitute Princeton for MIT and the answer is almost definitely "the TJ kid is more prepared".

Princeton is also considered pretty high rigor without grade inflation.

Fine, but TJ students report that TJ is more challenging than Princeton, or any other Ivy for that matter. The two exceptions are MIT and Caltech and that's it.

Do they now? How many? It would need to have four things happen for your statement to be remotely considered:

- kids graduated from tj
- kids attend an ivy
- the “kids” referenced above are a large enough number to be considered reliable (not a handful of kids)- many from each individual school
- the “kid” referenced above all reported their academic comparison to the above poster

Having A former TJ grad here or there tell A former TJ classmate something is not what helps evaluate if something is true. My guess is the prior poster asked 1 person “how does it compare to TJ’s rigor” and the kid mumbled back something which the poster took as gospel.

This is the fake TJ stuff that waters down TJ’s appearance in the eyes of others.

The person who replied here betrays that they aren’t very connected with TJ. It’s a matter of common knowledge among TJ grads that (again, except for MIT and Caltech) college is always easier than TJ.

Simply belonging to one of the TJ alumni Facebook groups would take care of this for you. And yes, it follows for Ivies as well. Stanford too.

You can keep arguing the point, but all that makes you is loud and wrong.

DP

Sports are popular at TJ. About half the students participate in school sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those with sports as priority, base school is the way to go, where calculus is not required.

May not be required but many kids do Calc (and beyond), no matter the school, no matter if an athlete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a TJ kid goes to VT and a non TJ kid goes to MIT, is the latter more prepared for grad school?

MIT and Caltech have always been the lone two exceptions to the fairly ironclad rule that "TJ is *way* easier than undergrad".

Substitute Princeton for MIT and the answer is almost definitely "the TJ kid is more prepared".

Princeton is also considered pretty high rigor without grade inflation.

Fine, but TJ students report that TJ is more challenging than Princeton, or any other Ivy for that matter. The two exceptions are MIT and Caltech and that's it.

Do they now? How many? It would need to have four things happen for your statement to be remotely considered:

- kids graduated from tj
- kids attend an ivy
- the “kids” referenced above are a large enough number to be considered reliable (not a handful of kids)- many from each individual school
- the “kid” referenced above all reported their academic comparison to the above poster

Having A former TJ grad here or there tell A former TJ classmate something is not what helps evaluate if something is true. My guess is the prior poster asked 1 person “how does it compare to TJ’s rigor” and the kid mumbled back something which the poster took as gospel.

This is the fake TJ stuff that waters down TJ’s appearance in the eyes of others.

The person who replied here betrays that they aren’t very connected with TJ. It’s a matter of common knowledge among TJ grads that (again, except for MIT and Caltech) college is always easier than TJ.

Simply belonging to one of the TJ alumni Facebook groups would take care of this for you. And yes, it follows for Ivies as well. Stanford too.

You can keep arguing the point, but all that makes you is loud and wrong.

DP

Sports are popular at TJ. About half the students participate in school sports.

recreationally. Unlike base schools, TJ doesn’t provide easier academic options for students who want to pursue sports seriously, prep for collegiate level. TJ forces students out of sports if minimum GPA is not maintained.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a TJ kid goes to VT and a non TJ kid goes to MIT, is the latter more prepared for grad school?

MIT and Caltech have always been the lone two exceptions to the fairly ironclad rule that "TJ is *way* easier than undergrad".

Substitute Princeton for MIT and the answer is almost definitely "the TJ kid is more prepared".

Princeton is also considered pretty high rigor without grade inflation.

Fine, but TJ students report that TJ is more challenging than Princeton, or any other Ivy for that matter. The two exceptions are MIT and Caltech and that's it.

Do they now? How many? It would need to have four things happen for your statement to be remotely considered:

- kids graduated from tj
- kids attend an ivy
- the “kids” referenced above are a large enough number to be considered reliable (not a handful of kids)- many from each individual school
- the “kid” referenced above all reported their academic comparison to the above poster

Having A former TJ grad here or there tell A former TJ classmate something is not what helps evaluate if something is true. My guess is the prior poster asked 1 person “how does it compare to TJ’s rigor” and the kid mumbled back something which the poster took as gospel.

This is the fake TJ stuff that waters down TJ’s appearance in the eyes of others.

The person who replied here betrays that they aren’t very connected with TJ. It’s a matter of common knowledge among TJ grads that (again, except for MIT and Caltech) college is always easier than TJ.

Simply belonging to one of the TJ alumni Facebook groups would take care of this for you. And yes, it follows for Ivies as well. Stanford too.

You can keep arguing the point, but all that makes you is loud and wrong.

DP

Sports are popular at TJ. About half the students participate in school sports.

recreationally. Unlike base schools, TJ doesn’t provide easier academic options for students who want to pursue sports seriously, prep for collegiate level. TJ forces students out of sports if minimum GPA is not maintained.

Huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a TJ kid goes to VT and a non TJ kid goes to MIT, is the latter more prepared for grad school?

MIT and Caltech have always been the lone two exceptions to the fairly ironclad rule that "TJ is *way* easier than undergrad".

Substitute Princeton for MIT and the answer is almost definitely "the TJ kid is more prepared".

Princeton is also considered pretty high rigor without grade inflation.

Fine, but TJ students report that TJ is more challenging than Princeton, or any other Ivy for that matter. The two exceptions are MIT and Caltech and that's it.

Do they now? How many? It would need to have four things happen for your statement to be remotely considered:

- kids graduated from tj
- kids attend an ivy
- the “kids” referenced above are a large enough number to be considered reliable (not a handful of kids)- many from each individual school
- the “kid” referenced above all reported their academic comparison to the above poster

Having A former TJ grad here or there tell A former TJ classmate something is not what helps evaluate if something is true. My guess is the prior poster asked 1 person “how does it compare to TJ’s rigor” and the kid mumbled back something which the poster took as gospel.

This is the fake TJ stuff that waters down TJ’s appearance in the eyes of others.

The person who replied here betrays that they aren’t very connected with TJ. It’s a matter of common knowledge among TJ grads that (again, except for MIT and Caltech) college is always easier than TJ.

Simply belonging to one of the TJ alumni Facebook groups would take care of this for you. And yes, it follows for Ivies as well. Stanford too.

You can keep arguing the point, but all that makes you is loud and wrong.

DP

Sports are popular at TJ. About half the students participate in school sports.

recreationally. Unlike base schools, TJ doesn’t provide easier academic options for students who want to pursue sports seriously, prep for collegiate level. TJ forces students out of sports if minimum GPA is not maintained.

this is nonsense

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ being sports focused is a total joke. TJ sports is mostly recreational, more about fitness and team building than any sort of competition. Only kids good with academics can afford to allocate time for sports. It is hard to enjoy sports when sitting on a ton of Cs and Ds.

Man, you're all over the place here...

1) No one is arguing that it's "sports-focused", and yet the sports experience there is pretty damn solid and they usually win more championships than just about anyone else in the area.

2) It's not mostly recreational unless you're talking about the running sports, and even those win district titles with regularity.

3) Turns out the vast majority of TJ kids are "good with academics".

4) There aren't many TJ students sitting on a ton of Cs and Ds.

If you drop below a 3.0, I think they send you back to base.

Yep, multiple who were mislead into thinking sports was easier than base school, but couldnt maintain minimum gpa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a TJ kid goes to VT and a non TJ kid goes to MIT, is the latter more prepared for grad school?

MIT and Caltech have always been the lone two exceptions to the fairly ironclad rule that "TJ is *way* easier than undergrad".

Substitute Princeton for MIT and the answer is almost definitely "the TJ kid is more prepared".

Princeton is also considered pretty high rigor without grade inflation.

Fine, but TJ students report that TJ is more challenging than Princeton, or any other Ivy for that matter. The two exceptions are MIT and Caltech and that's it.

Credible source?

Different poster - I didn't go to TJ, I went to MIT with a kid at TJ. TJ's rigor is intense. I can't say it's harder than MIT, but it certainly gives me PTSD. They were doing things freshman year that I did freshman year at MIT and end of grad school. So yeah...

[Anonymous]

MIT, sure. Manassas Institute of Technology is not a bad school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a TJ kid goes to VT and a non TJ kid goes to MIT, is the latter more prepared for grad school?

MIT and Caltech have always been the lone two exceptions to the fairly ironclad rule that "TJ is *way* easier than undergrad".

Substitute Princeton for MIT and the answer is almost definitely "the TJ kid is more prepared".

Princeton is also considered pretty high rigor without grade inflation.

Fine, but TJ students report that TJ is more challenging than Princeton, or any other Ivy for that matter. The two exceptions are MIT and Caltech and that's it.

Credible source?

Different poster - I didn't go to TJ, I went to MIT with a kid at TJ. TJ's rigor is intense. I can't say it's harder than MIT, but it certainly gives me PTSD. They were doing things freshman year that I did freshman year at MIT and end of grad school. So yeah...

That’s not all kids. But yes there are some crazy outlier kids at TJ and thankfully it is there to serve kids like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a TJ kid goes to VT and a non TJ kid goes to MIT, is the latter more prepared for grad school?

MIT and Caltech have always been the lone two exceptions to the fairly ironclad rule that "TJ is *way* easier than undergrad".

Substitute Princeton for MIT and the answer is almost definitely "the TJ kid is more prepared".

Princeton is also considered pretty high rigor without grade inflation.

Fine, but TJ students report that TJ is more challenging than Princeton, or any other Ivy for that matter. The two exceptions are MIT and Caltech and that's it.

Do they now? How many? It would need to have four things happen for your statement to be remotely considered:

- kids graduated from tj
- kids attend an ivy
- the “kids” referenced above are a large enough number to be considered reliable (not a handful of kids)- many from each individual school
- the “kid” referenced above all reported their academic comparison to the above poster

Having A former TJ grad here or there tell A former TJ classmate something is not what helps evaluate if something is true. My guess is the prior poster asked 1 person “how does it compare to TJ’s rigor” and the kid mumbled back something which the poster took as gospel.

This is the fake TJ stuff that waters down TJ’s appearance in the eyes of others.

The person who replied here betrays that they aren’t very connected with TJ. It’s a matter of common knowledge among TJ grads that (again, except for MIT and Caltech) college is always easier than TJ.

Simply belonging to one of the TJ alumni Facebook groups would take care of this for you. And yes, it follows for Ivies as well. Stanford too.

You can keep arguing the point, but all that makes you is loud and wrong.

DP

Sports are popular at TJ. About half the students participate in school sports.

recreationally. Unlike base schools, TJ doesn’t provide easier academic options for students who want to pursue sports seriously, prep for collegiate level. TJ forces students out of sports if minimum GPA is not maintained.

TJ doesn't force students out of sports for low GPA, TJ forces them out of TJ for low GPA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ being sports focused is a total joke. TJ sports is mostly recreational, more about fitness and team building than any sort of competition. Only kids good with academics can afford to allocate time for sports. It is hard to enjoy sports when sitting on a ton of Cs and Ds.

Man, you're all over the place here...

1) No one is arguing that it's "sports-focused", and yet the sports experience there is pretty damn solid and they usually win more championships than just about anyone else in the area.

2) It's not mostly recreational unless you're talking about the running sports, and even those win district titles with regularity.

3) Turns out the vast majority of TJ kids are "good with academics".

4) There aren't many TJ students sitting on a ton of Cs and Ds.

If you drop below a 3.0, I think they send you back to base.

Yep, multiple who were mislead into thinking sports was easier than base school, but couldnt maintain minimum gpa.

Despite the slogan "we're here for the sports" NOBODY actually goes to TJ for the sports.
Where are you getting these ideas from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ being sports focused is a total joke. TJ sports is mostly recreational, more about fitness and team building than any sort of competition. Only kids good with academics can afford to allocate time for sports. It is hard to enjoy sports when sitting on a ton of Cs and Ds.

Man, you're all over the place here...

1) No one is arguing that it's "sports-focused", and yet the sports experience there is pretty damn solid and they usually win more championships than just about anyone else in the area.

2) It's not mostly recreational unless you're talking about the running sports, and even those win district titles with regularity.

3) Turns out the vast majority of TJ kids are "good with academics".

4) There aren't many TJ students sitting on a ton of Cs and Ds.

If you drop below a 3.0, I think they send you back to base.

Yep, multiple who were mislead into thinking sports was easier than base school, but couldnt maintain minimum gpa.

Despite the slogan "we're here for the sports" NOBODY actually goes to TJ for the sports.
Where are you getting these ideas from?

They might not, but they certainly could.