The “backdoor” to Boston College just got outed by the student newspaper. Ouch.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What i got out of the article was BC it's considered elite. When I lived in Cambridge, no one ever really thought of BC at all. And now wealthy elites are scrambling to be admitted. Race to the bottom

And here you are, from living in Cambridge to posting on DCUM. Not sure if you won the race, but you’ve reached the bottom. Congrats!

Best comment today.

[Anonymous]

"living in Cambridge" posted was A+ trolling, love it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What an excellent story. Kudos to those student journalists for looking under this rock.

The fact that virtually all of the Foundations students are legacies and wealthy is so sloppy by BC. And the whole “you rich kids who didn’t meet our admissions criteria will be leaders to the poor first-gen students” message—which the admissions guy does not deny!—is vile.

My read is completely different. I think it’s insulting to be recommended for this program, not an honor in the least.

I don’t know why anyone would consider doing it.

Many colleges have similar routes for kids who miss the mark.

I agree it’s gross, but not at all for the reasons you do.

[Anonymous]

Two sets of kids, getting an identical program, with two different sticker prices. This is unusual.

I understand that FA can and should bring the cost down for families who earn less. But I don’t understand having different sticker prices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What an excellent story. Kudos to those student journalists for looking under this rock.

The fact that virtually all of the Foundations students are legacies and wealthy is so sloppy by BC. And the whole “you rich kids who didn’t meet our admissions criteria will be leaders to the poor first-gen students” message—which the admissions guy does not deny!—is vile.

My read is completely different. I think it’s insulting to be recommended for this program, not an honor in the least.

I don’t know why anyone would consider doing it.

Many colleges have similar routes for kids who miss the mark.

I agree it’s gross, but not at all for the reasons you do.

I’m the poster you’re responding to, and I have no idea what you’re talking about. Who said it’s an honor?

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Anonymous wrote:The kids who are paying the full boat are helping to fund the program for other kids. Without full boat kids there isn't a program.

And I agree that lots of schools have this program. Here is one at Notre Dame.

https://admissions.nd.edu/gateway-program/

Yes, many schools have gateway programs. But as far as we know, BC is the only school with a program for rich failsons within a program for low-income, first-gen students. That’s the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids who are paying the full boat are helping to fund the program for other kids. Without full boat kids there isn't a program.

And I agree that lots of schools have this program. Here is one at Notre Dame.

https://admissions.nd.edu/gateway-program/

Yes, many schools have gateway programs. But as far as we know, BC is the only school with a program for rich failsons within a program for low-income, first-gen students. That’s the difference.

Um . . . The tuition for Notre Dame's Gateway Program is $30,000 less than the tuition for other Notre Dame undergraduates. They're not fleecing connected students like BC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids who are paying the full boat are helping to fund the program for other kids. Without full boat kids there isn't a program.

And I agree that lots of schools have this program. Here is one at Notre Dame.

https://admissions.nd.edu/gateway-program/

Yes, many schools have gateway programs. But as far as we know, BC is the only school with a program for rich failsons within a program for low-income, first-gen students. That’s the difference.

Um . . . The tuition for Notre Dame's Gateway Program is $30,000 less than the tuition for other Notre Dame undergraduates. They're not fleecing connected students like BC.

so are they rich kids unabashedly accepting a $100k "back door entry" or are they unwitting victims being "fleeced" by the college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids who are paying the full boat are helping to fund the program for other kids. Without full boat kids there isn't a program.

And I agree that lots of schools have this program. Here is one at Notre Dame.

https://admissions.nd.edu/gateway-program/

Yes, many schools have gateway programs. But as far as we know, BC is the only school with a program for rich failsons within a program for low-income, first-gen students. That’s the difference.

Um . . . The tuition for Notre Dame's Gateway Program is $30,000 less than the tuition for other Notre Dame undergraduates. They're not fleecing connected students like BC.

so are they rich kids unabashedly accepting a $100k "back door entry" or are they unwitting victims being "fleeced" by the college?

I think the bigger issue here is the rich dumb kids taking spots that should go to underprivileged students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of schools do this, offer alternative tracks to students who don't have the stats. BU, Northeastern, UMD etc.

But are they so secretive? The article says that there is no publicly available information about BC Foundations for applicants which is dubious.

[Anonymous]

I let this article sit for a day, and I think it's fine - it really does not bother me that they have this program. It's not that different from "spring start" at BU, the guaranteed transfer program at Cornell, Harvard's Z list, and lots of colleges (Northeastern, NYU and Emory)'s start somewhere else and you can be on main campus later programs.

The fact that the rich kids are paying higher tuition for a Messina-faculty taught curriculum doesn't bother me either - isn't that exactly what OOS parents are paying at state flagships throughout the U.S.?

If you think there's no "backdoor" option at any university, you are incredibly naive. Everyone knows that Jared Kushner's dad bought him a spot at Harvard and Donald's dad bought him a spot at Penn. Who is to judge BC for giving 15 spots away to rich donors whose kids are willing to basically attend community college for a year?

[Anonymous]

These kids should just get used to the idea that it's not what you know but who you know. Will serve them well as they enter the job market so they aren't caught off guard as to how the real world works.

[Anonymous]

I don't fully understand.

I assume that this is fake the admissions stats and game rankings, which obviously should be an immediate expulsion from USNews ranking.

But I don't understand why they'd require a 2 year associates degree first, just to transfer to BC as a junior. Isn't that admitting that the first 2 years at BC are no better than community college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids who are paying the full boat are helping to fund the program for other kids. Without full boat kids there isn't a program.

And I agree that lots of schools have this program. Here is one at Notre Dame.

https://admissions.nd.edu/gateway-program/

Yes, many schools have gateway programs. But as far as we know, BC is the only school with a program for rich failsons within a program for low-income, first-gen students. That’s the difference.

Um . . . The tuition for Notre Dame's Gateway Program is $30,000 less than the tuition for other Notre Dame undergraduates. They're not fleecing connected students like BC.

so are they rich kids unabashedly accepting a $100k "back door entry" or are they unwitting victims being "fleeced" by the college?

The kids get free degree. The deal is between parents and the school

[Anonymous]

It's wild to see adults acting insecure because students journalists are doing a good job. Are you afraid they are going to expose you for something?