Lamborghini Urus all over college campuses

[Anonymous]

Has any of you been to U of Miami or SMU or Pepperdine?

I have a kid at Pepperdine and my niece is at U Miami. They tells us that there are several American kids (not foreigners) driving Ferraris and Lambos. Porsches are a dime a dozen at these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has any of you been to U of Miami or SMU or Pepperdine?

I have a kid at Pepperdine and my niece is at U Miami. They tells us that there are several American kids (not foreigners) driving Ferraris and Lambos. Porsches are a dime a dozen at these schools.

I have a Porsche. It’s nothing compared to a Lamborghini price wise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tale as old as time...

Except now the veil is lifted a bit.
We now know that these rich kids won't fade into the background of daddy's business or a life of leisure. They get to be the international power set who pull the strings of our lives and are above the law.

Yep. And they got in by cheating - easy to get someone else to take the SAT for you, then daddy bribes the college with a donation. Then they cheat as naturally as breathing once in the college. Pay for test banks, pay someone else to do their work and write their papers, someone else shows up to take their test, etc. Nobody is punished even if caught or suspected of cheating. The colleges turn a blind eye to the highly choreographed rich foreign cheat rings, while a poor middle class American kid on scholarship will be humiliated in front of a ethics board. Their degrees are fake.

And yet, they will still run the world.

This is actually true, for the most part. I teach at an international school in a country where many of these kids originate, and the majority DO cheat on college admissions exams/process. Not all, but the majority. US college AOs know it, too, because they keep admitting them year after year. I am shocked over and over again by the admissions that are coming in for some of these kids who can barely speak English (their grades don't seem to matter: I am fairly certain the paid agents/"college councilors" the parents all employ have a way of altering the transcripts somehow).

I wonder if this is true not only for the extremely rich but many middle class abroad. Don’t know what the going rate is for manufactured transcripts and test scores, fake activities etc. But it might very much be worthwhile, financially. A well-off middle class person in many of these countries will qualify for financial aid in the U.S., even though they enjoy a higher standard of living than donut-hole American families not qualifying for financial aid. (In Europe this is especially true.). Some of these families are even wealthy (though probably not super wealthy) but they can easily hide assets. They pay 25k to the school and get financial aid for the rest; it is basically free tuition.

[Anonymous]

The speculation is crazy here, and let's not be racist, please, but every time you see a supercar on a college campus, SOMETHING has to be up. It's just not normal.

[Anonymous]

For every kid with a fancy car, there are probably several dozen who don't have any transportation at school.

Confirmation bias is a thing.

[Anonymous]

Any place with rich kids has fancy cars and usually a lot of drugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The speculation is crazy here, and let's not be racist, please, but every time you see a supercar on a college campus, SOMETHING has to be up. It's just not normal.

Does it though?

[Anonymous]

Didn't Univ of Texas give football players Lamborginis??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tale as old as time...

Except now the veil is lifted a bit.
We now know that these rich kids won't fade into the background of daddy's business or a life of leisure. They get to be the international power set who pull the strings of our lives and are above the law.

Yep. And they got in by cheating - easy to get someone else to take the SAT for you, then daddy bribes the college with a donation. Then they cheat as naturally as breathing once in the college. Pay for test banks, pay someone else to do their work and write their papers, someone else shows up to take their test, etc. Nobody is punished even if caught or suspected of cheating. The colleges turn a blind eye to the highly choreographed rich foreign cheat rings, while a poor middle class American kid on scholarship will be humiliated in front of a ethics board. Their degrees are fake.

And yet, they will still run the world.

This is actually true, for the most part. I teach at an international school in a country where many of these kids originate, and the majority DO cheat on college admissions exams/process. Not all, but the majority. US college AOs know it, too, because they keep admitting them year after year. I am shocked over and over again by the admissions that are coming in for some of these kids who can barely speak English (their grades don't seem to matter: I am fairly certain the paid agents/"college councilors" the parents all employ have a way of altering the transcripts somehow).

I wonder if this is true not only for the extremely rich but many middle class abroad. Don’t know what the going rate is for manufactured transcripts and test scores, fake activities etc. But it might very much be worthwhile, financially. A well-off middle class person in many of these countries will qualify for financial aid in the U.S., even though they enjoy a higher standard of living than donut-hole American families not qualifying for financial aid. (In Europe this is especially true.). Some of these families are even wealthy (though probably not super wealthy) but they can easily hide assets. They pay 25k to the school and get financial aid for the rest; it is basically free tuition.

Yes, absolutely. In Asia, this kind of "college counseling" is a cutthroat field. These agents are dishonest and utterly ruthless because they don't care what happens to the kid after they are deposited in the US. My colleagues and I were just talking about how sad it is in the case of one of our students, who can barely speak English, but whose parents paid a private counselor ("agent") to get him into a US college. Our school's college counselors have no control over what the privately hired "agent" is doing, but they know the kid can barely speak English, has failing predicted grades for IB classes, and yet somehow received an acceptance to an excellent East Coast SLAC. We have cases in previous years where these kinds of kids end up expelled after being caught cheating, or just failing everything. (Some of them manage just fine, so am assuming they have ways to continue cheating as other PPs have mentioned once they are in the USP).

Again, it isn't ALL of them. But it is most of them.

I have one current student who is waiting to hear from Harvard. He's an intelligent kid, very nice, fluent in English, and has good grades. But he has no activities, no hooks, and just goes on expensive holidays during the summers. There is zero attempt to actually do anything to set him apart, or to pursue any intersest outside of school, and while he is smart, he's not tiptop. However, his parents have hired one of these agents/"counselors", and I will be shocked if he isn't accepted into Harvard. They always are. I'm sure he'll be perfectly fine once he gets there. And he will drive a flash car

To be fair, I do think this happens a lot in the US with super wealthy American kids too. But it makes me sad to see how unfair it is, and how there really is a different system for the ultra-wealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tale as old as time...

Except now the veil is lifted a bit.
We now know that these rich kids won't fade into the background of daddy's business or a life of leisure. They get to be the international power set who pull the strings of our lives and are above the law.

Yep. And they got in by cheating - easy to get someone else to take the SAT for you, then daddy bribes the college with a donation. Then they cheat as naturally as breathing once in the college. Pay for test banks, pay someone else to do their work and write their papers, someone else shows up to take their test, etc. Nobody is punished even if caught or suspected of cheating. The colleges turn a blind eye to the highly choreographed rich foreign cheat rings, while a poor middle class American kid on scholarship will be humiliated in front of a ethics board. Their degrees are fake.

And yet, they will still run the world.

This is actually true, for the most part. I teach at an international school in a country where many of these kids originate, and the majority DO cheat on college admissions exams/process. Not all, but the majority. US college AOs know it, too, because they keep admitting them year after year. I am shocked over and over again by the admissions that are coming in for some of these kids who can barely speak English (their grades don't seem to matter: I am fairly certain the paid agents/"college councilors" the parents all employ have a way of altering the transcripts somehow).

I wonder if this is true not only for the extremely rich but many middle class abroad. Don’t know what the going rate is for manufactured transcripts and test scores, fake activities etc. But it might very much be worthwhile, financially. A well-off middle class person in many of these countries will qualify for financial aid in the U.S., even though they enjoy a higher standard of living than donut-hole American families not qualifying for financial aid. (In Europe this is especially true.). Some of these families are even wealthy (though probably not super wealthy) but they can easily hide assets. They pay 25k to the school and get financial aid for the rest; it is basically free tuition.

Yes, absolutely. In Asia, this kind of "college counseling" is a cutthroat field. These agents are dishonest and utterly ruthless because they don't care what happens to the kid after they are deposited in the US. My colleagues and I were just talking about how sad it is in the case of one of our students, who can barely speak English, but whose parents paid a private counselor ("agent") to get him into a US college. Our school's college counselors have no control over what the privately hired "agent" is doing, but they know the kid can barely speak English, has failing predicted grades for IB classes, and yet somehow received an acceptance to an excellent East Coast SLAC. We have cases in previous years where these kinds of kids end up expelled after being caught cheating, or just failing everything. (Some of them manage just fine, so am assuming they have ways to continue cheating as other PPs have mentioned once they are in the USP).

Again, it isn't ALL of them. But it is most of them.

I have one current student who is waiting to hear from Harvard. He's an intelligent kid, very nice, fluent in English, and has good grades. But he has no activities, no hooks, and just goes on expensive holidays during the summers. There is zero attempt to actually do anything to set him apart, or to pursue any intersest outside of school, and while he is smart, he's not tiptop. However, his parents have hired one of these agents/"counselors", and I will be shocked if he isn't accepted into Harvard. They always are. I'm sure he'll be perfectly fine once he gets there. And he will drive a flash car

To be fair, I do think this happens a lot in the US with super wealthy American kids too. But it makes me sad to see how unfair it is, and how there really is a different system for the ultra-wealthy.

To add to my last post, maybe DCUM people who really want their average kid to get into Harvard just haven't discovered the "private counselors" in China and South Asia, who are on a whole other level than the ones in the US who will just write kids' essays for them. I'm sure for the right price one of them would doctor up your kid's records and get them in as well. I keep hoping NYT or similar will do an undercover reporting project on this industry.

[Anonymous]

These shady “agents” are all over Reddit.

R/IntltoUSA

[Anonymous]

Lots of sour grapes here. As if no DCUM parents has ever written their children's essays or hired consultants to do that. As if no DCUM parents has ever gotten their children expensive "disability diagnosis" to get extended test time. As if no DCUM parents paid to get their children "research" experience. All humans stink, and cheat, including myself. It's not just limited to East Asians or South Asians or certain European citizens. We are all cheaters, so don't throw stones, please.