Ferebee email re adding school days because of snow

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Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

For the record, they didn’t ask the Union about this. If they had, I can assure you teachers would have either given up that wellness day or kept PTC. We now have to report to work on June 22nd….

I think you're wrong - the union would not have given up wellness day

I absolutely believe WTU would have given up a wellness day to avoid reporting on the 22nd. I don’t believe they would have given it up for PTCs.

No they would not. The most vocal teachers in the union never want to give up any days off. They also wanted school closed for a week after the snow storm. No way WTU gives up the wellness day.

I think it would be unfair to take away the wellness day if that’s what it is designated as. Teachers might have already planned trips or family events. However I’m confused by the wellness day in general as it doesn’t seem to work well here. Why not add a day to Thanksgiving or some other holiday.

But it would be in lieu of extending their school year by a day. They don’t have kids on the extra day. If you polled teachers at my school on wellness day vs reporting on that Monday, they would 100% sacrifice the wellness day. Also, lots of them were planning 4 day weekends and holding PTCs at alternate times and those plans are screwed up too.

Alternate times?

Yes, alternate times. Our teachers are allowed to take PTC day off if they accommodate all PTCs at other times/days. Lots of teachers therefore offer 2-3 weeks of morning and afternoon times and were planning on a 4 day weekend. Works for me, better times anyway.

Some teachers do that. I can’t. So what alternative times from 8-3:30 are you recommending?

What? I’m not recommending anything? I said some teachers were planning a 4 day weekend and PTCs at an alternate times and their plans got screwed up; something I feel badly about. Where is there anything along the lines of a recommendation? I am a little worried about your reading comprehension here if you’re actually a teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

For the record, they didn’t ask the Union about this. If they had, I can assure you teachers would have either given up that wellness day or kept PTC. We now have to report to work on June 22nd….

I think you're wrong - the union would not have given up wellness day

I absolutely believe WTU would have given up a wellness day to avoid reporting on the 22nd. I don’t believe they would have given it up for PTCs.

No they would not. The most vocal teachers in the union never want to give up any days off. They also wanted school closed for a week after the snow storm. No way WTU gives up the wellness day.

I think it would be unfair to take away the wellness day if that’s what it is designated as. Teachers might have already planned trips or family events. However I’m confused by the wellness day in general as it doesn’t seem to work well here. Why not add a day to Thanksgiving or some other holiday.

But it would be in lieu of extending their school year by a day. They don’t have kids on the extra day. If you polled teachers at my school on wellness day vs reporting on that Monday, they would 100% sacrifice the wellness day. Also, lots of them were planning 4 day weekends and holding PTCs at alternate times and those plans are screwed up too.

Alternate times?

Yes, alternate times. Our teachers are allowed to take PTC day off if they accommodate all PTCs at other times/days. Lots of teachers therefore offer 2-3 weeks of morning and afternoon times and were planning on a 4 day weekend. Works for me, better times anyway.

Some teachers do that. I can’t. So what alternative times from 8-3:30 are you recommending?

What? I’m not recommending anything? I said some teachers were planning a 4 day weekend and PTCs at an alternate times and their plans got screwed up; something I feel badly about. Where is there anything along the lines of a recommendation? I am a little worried about your reading comprehension here if you’re actually a teacher.

My deepest apologies. So sorry to have assumed as a parent you had problem solving skills.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

For the record, they didn’t ask the Union about this. If they had, I can assure you teachers would have either given up that wellness day or kept PTC. We now have to report to work on June 22nd….

I think you're wrong - the union would not have given up wellness day

I absolutely believe WTU would have given up a wellness day to avoid reporting on the 22nd. I don’t believe they would have given it up for PTCs.

No they would not. The most vocal teachers in the union never want to give up any days off. They also wanted school closed for a week after the snow storm. No way WTU gives up the wellness day.

Nope, we would not have. Most are upset about no PTC day.
We would have been fine to give up a PD day. But that is in our contract too.

Some of you seem to think our opinions even matter. They do not when it comes to this. You also must not realize that if we gave up our wellness day DCPS would use this opportunity to take things from us illegally (like they have done).

You can look up the PERB ruling that states they have not been bargaining with teachers in good faith.

Wait this news came out today and you know “most teachers” are upset about cancelling PTC day? How is that possible? The teachers I know aren’t upset. But I’m not going to claim that’s most. You speak in terms of “we” quite freely.

I mean a couple hundred is a decent sample size. Are you in a dcps teacher group or have a lot of colleagues working in dcps? No? Then STFU.

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Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

For the record, they didn’t ask the Union about this. If they had, I can assure you teachers would have either given up that wellness day or kept PTC. We now have to report to work on June 22nd….

I think you're wrong - the union would not have given up wellness day

I absolutely believe WTU would have given up a wellness day to avoid reporting on the 22nd. I don’t believe they would have given it up for PTCs.

No they would not. The most vocal teachers in the union never want to give up any days off. They also wanted school closed for a week after the snow storm. No way WTU gives up the wellness day.

I think it would be unfair to take away the wellness day if that’s what it is designated as. Teachers might have already planned trips or family events. However I’m confused by the wellness day in general as it doesn’t seem to work well here. Why not add a day to Thanksgiving or some other holiday.

But it would be in lieu of extending their school year by a day. They don’t have kids on the extra day. If you polled teachers at my school on wellness day vs reporting on that Monday, they would 100% sacrifice the wellness day. Also, lots of them were planning 4 day weekends and holding PTCs at alternate times and those plans are screwed up too.

Alternate times?

Yes, alternate times. Our teachers are allowed to take PTC day off if they accommodate all PTCs at other times/days. Lots of teachers therefore offer 2-3 weeks of morning and afternoon times and were planning on a 4 day weekend. Works for me, better times anyway.

Some teachers do that. I can’t. So what alternative times from 8-3:30 are you recommending?

What? I’m not recommending anything? I said some teachers were planning a 4 day weekend and PTCs at an alternate times and their plans got screwed up; something I feel badly about. Where is there anything along the lines of a recommendation? I am a little worried about your reading comprehension here if you’re actually a teacher.

My deepest apologies. So sorry to have assumed as a parent you had problem solving skills.

Wow. Miss the point and then attempt to gaslight… poorly.

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Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

Ha, our charters doesnt. even have PTCs at all

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Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

Ha, our charters doesnt. even have PTCs at all

Yep, they are going to be in for a rude awakening when they realize charter schools don’t just bend over and cater to parent’s every whim.

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Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

Ha, our charters doesnt. even have PTCs at all

Yep, they are going to be in for a rude awakening when they realize charter schools don’t just bend over and cater to parent’s every whim.

DP. We chose DCPS over charters but it is very weird to characterize two PTC a year, for a total of 30 minutes of face-to-face communication, as "bending over and catering to parents' every whim."

Even thought they are short, my spouse and I always feel like we get good information from PTC and it has really helped us understand things about our child and their experience at school that helps as do a better job supporting her at home. It doesnt' feel like there is any downside? I don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

For the record, they didn’t ask the Union about this. If they had, I can assure you teachers would have either given up that wellness day or kept PTC. We now have to report to work on June 22nd….

I think you're wrong - the union would not have given up wellness day

I absolutely believe WTU would have given up a wellness day to avoid reporting on the 22nd. I don’t believe they would have given it up for PTCs.

No they would not. The most vocal teachers in the union never want to give up any days off. They also wanted school closed for a week after the snow storm. No way WTU gives up the wellness day.

Nope, we would not have. Most are upset about no PTC day.
We would have been fine to give up a PD day. But that is in our contract too.

Some of you seem to think our opinions even matter. They do not when it comes to this. You also must not realize that if we gave up our wellness day DCPS would use this opportunity to take things from us illegally (like they have done).

You can look up the PERB ruling that states they have not been bargaining with teachers in good faith.

Wait this news came out today and you know “most teachers” are upset about cancelling PTC day? How is that possible? The teachers I know aren’t upset. But I’m not going to claim that’s most. You speak in terms of “we” quite freely.

I mean a couple hundred is a decent sample size. Are you in a dcps teacher group or have a lot of colleagues working in dcps? No? Then STFU.

NP. Why would teachers be upset to miss PTCs if they can schedule them at alternate times and take the day off? Is taking that day off in their contracts? Do they take a personal day?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

Ha, our charters doesnt. even have PTCs at all

Yep, they are going to be in for a rude awakening when they realize charter schools don’t just bend over and cater to parent’s every whim.

My charter flipped the PTCs that would have happened during snow-mageddon to virtual and now the parens and teachers are demanding we keep a virtual option going forward. Which we will, because it makes sense. Not every parent/teacher demand is a whim.

For the charter that doesn't have PTCs at all, do they have something else? Teacher office hours, dedicated time for check in calls, anything?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

For the record, they didn’t ask the Union about this. If they had, I can assure you teachers would have either given up that wellness day or kept PTC. We now have to report to work on June 22nd….

I think you're wrong - the union would not have given up wellness day

I absolutely believe WTU would have given up a wellness day to avoid reporting on the 22nd. I don’t believe they would have given it up for PTCs.

No they would not. The most vocal teachers in the union never want to give up any days off. They also wanted school closed for a week after the snow storm. No way WTU gives up the wellness day.

Nope, we would not have. Most are upset about no PTC day.
We would have been fine to give up a PD day. But that is in our contract too.

Some of you seem to think our opinions even matter. They do not when it comes to this. You also must not realize that if we gave up our wellness day DCPS would use this opportunity to take things from us illegally (like they have done).

You can look up the PERB ruling that states they have not been bargaining with teachers in good faith.

Wait this news came out today and you know “most teachers” are upset about cancelling PTC day? How is that possible? The teachers I know aren’t upset. But I’m not going to claim that’s most. You speak in terms of “we” quite freely.

I mean a couple hundred is a decent sample size. Are you in a dcps teacher group or have a lot of colleagues working in dcps? No? Then STFU.

NP. Why would teachers be upset to miss PTCs if they can schedule them at alternate times and take the day off? Is taking that day off in their contracts? Do they take a personal day?

Because we like to give parents a comprehensive update. Many schools do not offer alternate times so you can date the day off. Personally my school has us come in regardless if we are finished or not.

Also I barely get any time to plan as it is so having to try to schedule on my own planning time sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

For the record, they didn’t ask the Union about this. If they had, I can assure you teachers would have either given up that wellness day or kept PTC. We now have to report to work on June 22nd….

I think you're wrong - the union would not have given up wellness day

I absolutely believe WTU would have given up a wellness day to avoid reporting on the 22nd. I don’t believe they would have given it up for PTCs.

No they would not. The most vocal teachers in the union never want to give up any days off. They also wanted school closed for a week after the snow storm. No way WTU gives up the wellness day.

Nope, we would not have. Most are upset about no PTC day.
We would have been fine to give up a PD day. But that is in our contract too.

Some of you seem to think our opinions even matter. They do not when it comes to this. You also must not realize that if we gave up our wellness day DCPS would use this opportunity to take things from us illegally (like they have done).

You can look up the PERB ruling that states they have not been bargaining with teachers in good faith.

Wait this news came out today and you know “most teachers” are upset about cancelling PTC day? How is that possible? The teachers I know aren’t upset. But I’m not going to claim that’s most. You speak in terms of “we” quite freely.

I mean a couple hundred is a decent sample size. Are you in a dcps teacher group or have a lot of colleagues working in dcps? No? Then STFU.

NP. Why would teachers be upset to miss PTCs if they can schedule them at alternate times and take the day off? Is taking that day off in their contracts? Do they take a personal day?

Because we like to give parents a comprehensive update. Many schools do not offer alternate times so you can date the day off. Personally my school has us come in regardless if we are finished or not.

Also I barely get any time to plan as it is so having to try to schedule on my own planning time sucks.

So the alternate scheduling isn’t available to all teachers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

Ha, our charters doesnt. even have PTCs at all

Yep, they are going to be in for a rude awakening when they realize charter schools don’t just bend over and cater to parent’s every whim.

My charter flipped the PTCs that would have happened during snow-mageddon to virtual and now the parens and teachers are demanding we keep a virtual option going forward. Which we will, because it makes sense. Not every parent/teacher demand is a whim.

For the charter that doesn't have PTCs at all, do they have something else? Teacher office hours, dedicated time for check in calls, anything?

NP but also at a middle school charter that doesn't have PTCs (likely the same one) -- three things happen:

1. there is a lot of communication to the parent about grades (report card comes home every two weeks and a very thorough printout with every single grade at the trimester)
2. they want students to address issues first, so they have "office hours" after school every week when students are encouraged to stop by
3. if parents still have an issue, they offer "parent hours" before school that need to be booked.

But the lack of PTC is by design, they want to student to start taking charge of their education.

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Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

For the record, they didn’t ask the Union about this. If they had, I can assure you teachers would have either given up that wellness day or kept PTC. We now have to report to work on June 22nd….

I think you're wrong - the union would not have given up wellness day

I absolutely believe WTU would have given up a wellness day to avoid reporting on the 22nd. I don’t believe they would have given it up for PTCs.

No they would not. The most vocal teachers in the union never want to give up any days off. They also wanted school closed for a week after the snow storm. No way WTU gives up the wellness day.

Nope, we would not have. Most are upset about no PTC day.
We would have been fine to give up a PD day. But that is in our contract too.

Some of you seem to think our opinions even matter. They do not when it comes to this. You also must not realize that if we gave up our wellness day DCPS would use this opportunity to take things from us illegally (like they have done).

You can look up the PERB ruling that states they have not been bargaining with teachers in good faith.

Wait this news came out today and you know “most teachers” are upset about cancelling PTC day? How is that possible? The teachers I know aren’t upset. But I’m not going to claim that’s most. You speak in terms of “we” quite freely.

I mean a couple hundred is a decent sample size. Are you in a dcps teacher group or have a lot of colleagues working in dcps? No? Then STFU.

NP. Why would teachers be upset to miss PTCs if they can schedule them at alternate times and take the day off? Is taking that day off in their contracts? Do they take a personal day?

Because we like to give parents a comprehensive update. Many schools do not offer alternate times so you can date the day off. Personally my school has us come in regardless if we are finished or not.

Also I barely get any time to plan as it is so having to try to schedule on my own planning time sucks.

So the alternate scheduling isn’t available to all teachers?

No. Some teachers can use their planning, others do not have the time. It varies by teacher and school.

I do give weekly updates but I understand the need for a deeper dive.
I am happy to meet with parents but it will now have to be on the phone and very brief. I like meeting in person or via video conference (personal preference).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Love that they kept the Wellness Day, but scrapped PTCs. (Eyeroll....) Way to keep accountability to an absolute minimum, DC teachers' union.

Can't wait until my DC heads to her older siblings' charter...

For the record, they didn’t ask the Union about this. If they had, I can assure you teachers would have either given up that wellness day or kept PTC. We now have to report to work on June 22nd….

I think you're wrong - the union would not have given up wellness day

I absolutely believe WTU would have given up a wellness day to avoid reporting on the 22nd. I don’t believe they would have given it up for PTCs.

No they would not. The most vocal teachers in the union never want to give up any days off. They also wanted school closed for a week after the snow storm. No way WTU gives up the wellness day.

Nope, we would not have. Most are upset about no PTC day.
We would have been fine to give up a PD day. But that is in our contract too.

Some of you seem to think our opinions even matter. They do not when it comes to this. You also must not realize that if we gave up our wellness day DCPS would use this opportunity to take things from us illegally (like they have done).

You can look up the PERB ruling that states they have not been bargaining with teachers in good faith.

Wait this news came out today and you know “most teachers” are upset about cancelling PTC day? How is that possible? The teachers I know aren’t upset. But I’m not going to claim that’s most. You speak in terms of “we” quite freely.

I mean a couple hundred is a decent sample size. Are you in a dcps teacher group or have a lot of colleagues working in dcps? No? Then STFU.

So a couple of hundred teachers immediately responded in your “DCPS teacher group” that they were upset about PTCs being cancelled. I call BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this is acceptable at all. My kids get “excellent” report cards (elementary) but it really tells me nothing. Since we don’t have any major issues we receive zero individual communication from the school and don’t have any chance to ask questions or speak to the teacher. The only time is during the 2 x a year conferences. What school system thinks it’s acceptable to do cancel parent teacher conferences like this?

And didn’t the kids only miss two days of school and trudge through the snow with all those late start times so there wouldn’t be snow make up days?

Why are you looking for issues if there don't seem to be any issues? DC parents, I swear. Try to find a hobby or something...or I don't know, get a life?

What? I’m a dcps teacher and can’t believe they cancelled PTCs. Did you know in some districts there is a PTC per quarter? Imagine that, lazy colleague.