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Anonymous wrote:I haven't studied Dawkins but my impression from watching his lectures is that he thinks Christianity is an evolved cultural response teaching how to live better compared to other religions but still understands the absurdity of it and how its not true. He understands the need for some people to have religion in life to give them something to aim towards and follow as a leader and how teaching people how to live well when they are surrounded by bad actors is good thing for society. I think he also hoped we would evolve into something better than religion for society.

He certainly thinks that "...teaching people how to live well when they are surrounded by bad actors is good thing for society." And I think you're also right in thinking that he hoped for something "better than religion" would come along to help us be better. I think it's happening. Slowly, good people are leaving religion. That is the first step.

A much needed second, or even third or fourth step, is to change human nature so we aren't always looking for a reason to want to subjugate and harm other people. Right now, religion plays that role.

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Well so does money, status, all sorts of socioeconomic grievances.

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Anonymous wrote:Well so does money, status, all sorts of socioeconomic grievances.

Correct - and currently Religion is used to fool the masses. Trump, an atheist, has the support of most of the religious people. Not the smart ones, but most religious people aren't smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Well so does money, status, all sorts of socioeconomic grievances.

Correct - and currently Religion is used to fool the masses. Trump, an atheist, has the support of most of the religious people. Not the smart ones, but most religious people aren't smart.

Religion is the opiate of the masses.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist but without my judgement being clouded by god can see that OP is a naive idiot.

Christians are not required to allow themselves to be massacred by Islamic terrorists without fighting back.

NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY. We fight back by showing them why Christianity is the best religion in the world. We exemplify the word of God. I said for anyone who knows Christ -- not you in other words.

Atheists often know Christ - many even believed in him once.

This is some backwards arse logic. Sorry, you don’t know Christ if you’re an atheist

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist but without my judgement being clouded by god can see that OP is a naive idiot.

Christians are not required to allow themselves to be massacred by Islamic terrorists without fighting back.

NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY. We fight back by showing them why Christianity is the best religion in the world. We exemplify the word of God. I said for anyone who knows Christ -- not you in other words.

Atheists often know Christ - many even believed in him once.

How can you be an atheist and know Christ? Sincere question.

Easily, as a pp said, many atheists were once Christians. So we know all about Christ. We were taught it, like any other Christian.

Plus, you don't even need to be a Christian to know Christ. He's famous. He has a religion named after him. People learn about him in school.

Knowing Christ and knowing about Christ is not the same thing. To know Christ is to have a relationship with Christ. Again, you cannot be an atheist and know Christ. I know about Donald Trump, but I don’t know Trump. I was taught about Obama in school, but I don’t know him.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist but without my judgement being clouded by god can see that OP is a naive idiot.

Christians are not required to allow themselves to be massacred by Islamic terrorists without fighting back.

NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY. We fight back by showing them why Christianity is the best religion in the world. We exemplify the word of God. I said for anyone who knows Christ -- not you in other words.

Atheists often know Christ - many even believed in him once.

How can you be an atheist and know Christ? Sincere question.

Easily, as a pp said, many atheists were once Christians. So we know all about Christ. We were taught it, like any other Christian.

Plus, you don't even need to be a Christian to know Christ. He's famous. He has a religion named after him. People learn about him in school.

Knowing Christ and knowing about Christ is not the same thing. To know Christ is to have a relationship with Christ. Again, you cannot be an atheist and know Christ. I know about Donald Trump, but I don’t know Trump. I was taught about Obama in school, but I don’t know him.

Some of us don't KNOW Christian-speak and it would be better if posters didn't use it here, where there are all kinds of people, not just Christians.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist but without my judgement being clouded by god can see that OP is a naive idiot.

Christians are not required to allow themselves to be massacred by Islamic terrorists without fighting back.

NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY. We fight back by showing them why Christianity is the best religion in the world. We exemplify the word of God. I said for anyone who knows Christ -- not you in other words.

Atheists often know Christ - many even believed in him once.

How can you be an atheist and know Christ? Sincere question.

Easily, as a pp said, many atheists were once Christians. So we know all about Christ. We were taught it, like any other Christian.

Plus, you don't even need to be a Christian to know Christ. He's famous. He has a religion named after him. People learn about him in school.

Knowing Christ and knowing about Christ is not the same thing. To know Christ is to have a relationship with Christ. Again, you cannot be an atheist and know Christ. I know about Donald Trump, but I don’t know Trump. I was taught about Obama in school, but I don’t know him.

You are still 100% incorrect. Many of us did "know" christ. I was raised in an evangelical community and once was an avid crusader for christ. I used to claim I had the feeling of Jesus in my heart.

I also grew up and learned the real truth. It is all BS.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist but without my judgement being clouded by god can see that OP is a naive idiot.

Christians are not required to allow themselves to be massacred by Islamic terrorists without fighting back.

NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY. We fight back by showing them why Christianity is the best religion in the world. We exemplify the word of God. I said for anyone who knows Christ -- not you in other words.

Atheists often know Christ - many even believed in him once.

How can you be an atheist and know Christ? Sincere question.

Easily, as a pp said, many atheists were once Christians. So we know all about Christ. We were taught it, like any other Christian.

Plus, you don't even need to be a Christian to know Christ. He's famous. He has a religion named after him. People learn about him in school.

Knowing Christ and knowing about Christ is not the same thing. To know Christ is to have a relationship with Christ. Again, you cannot be an atheist and know Christ. I know about Donald Trump, but I don’t know Trump. I was taught about Obama in school, but I don’t know him.

You are still 100% incorrect. Many of us did "know" christ. I was raised in an evangelical community and once was an avid crusader for christ. I used to claim I had the feeling of Jesus in my heart.

I also grew up and learned the real truth. It is all BS.

Sounds like you can know Christ and then un-know him. Pp knew Christ and then un-knew him and became an atheist.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist but without my judgement being clouded by god can see that OP is a naive idiot.

Christians are not required to allow themselves to be massacred by Islamic terrorists without fighting back.

NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY. We fight back by showing them why Christianity is the best religion in the world. We exemplify the word of God. I said for anyone who knows Christ -- not you in other words.

Atheists often know Christ - many even believed in him once.

How can you be an atheist and know Christ? Sincere question.

Easily, as a pp said, many atheists were once Christians. So we know all about Christ. We were taught it, like any other Christian.

Plus, you don't even need to be a Christian to know Christ. He's famous. He has a religion named after him. People learn about him in school.

Knowing Christ and knowing about Christ is not the same thing. To know Christ is to have a relationship with Christ. Again, you cannot be an atheist and know Christ. I know about Donald Trump, but I don’t know Trump. I was taught about Obama in school, but I don’t know him.

You are still 100% incorrect. Many of us did "know" christ. I was raised in an evangelical community and once was an avid crusader for christ. I used to claim I had the feeling of Jesus in my heart.

I also grew up and learned the real truth. It is all BS.

Just like people who find God later in life, the zeal of the converts to atheism is particularly dogmatic and fervent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't studied Dawkins but my impression from watching his lectures is that he thinks Christianity is an evolved cultural response teaching how to live better compared to other religions but still understands the absurdity of it and how its not true. He understands the need for some people to have religion in life to give them something to aim towards and follow as a leader and how teaching people how to live well when they are surrounded by bad actors is good thing for society. I think he also hoped we would evolve into something better than religion for society.

And yet he seems to have abandoned any “hope to evolve into something better than religion” and now openly espouses the benefits of Christianity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't studied Dawkins but my impression from watching his lectures is that he thinks Christianity is an evolved cultural response teaching how to live better compared to other religions but still understands the absurdity of it and how its not true. He understands the need for some people to have religion in life to give them something to aim towards and follow as a leader and how teaching people how to live well when they are surrounded by bad actors is good thing for society. I think he also hoped we would evolve into something better than religion for society.

And yet he seems to have abandoned any “hope to evolve into something better than religion” and now openly espouses the benefits of Christianity.

Dawkins does not openly espouse the benefits of Christianity. Dawkins is an atheist.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist but without my judgement being clouded by god can see that OP is a naive idiot.

Christians are not required to allow themselves to be massacred by Islamic terrorists without fighting back.

NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY. We fight back by showing them why Christianity is the best religion in the world. We exemplify the word of God. I said for anyone who knows Christ -- not you in other words.

Atheists often know Christ - many even believed in him once.

How can you be an atheist and know Christ? Sincere question.

Easily, as a pp said, many atheists were once Christians. So we know all about Christ. We were taught it, like any other Christian.

Plus, you don't even need to be a Christian to know Christ. He's famous. He has a religion named after him. People learn about him in school.

Knowing Christ and knowing about Christ is not the same thing. To know Christ is to have a relationship with Christ. Again, you cannot be an atheist and know Christ. I know about Donald Trump, but I don’t know Trump. I was taught about Obama in school, but I don’t know him.

You are still 100% incorrect. Many of us did "know" christ. I was raised in an evangelical community and once was an avid crusader for christ. I used to claim I had the feeling of Jesus in my heart.

I also grew up and learned the real truth. It is all BS.

Just like people who find God later in life, the zeal of the converts to atheism is particularly dogmatic and fervent.

If you realized that more than half of of the people did not recognize the benefits of vaccines, You'd probably be zealous about getting people to recognize their benefits, too. The same goes for religion. Once the majority of people don't believe, we'll be better off.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist but without my judgement being clouded by god can see that OP is a naive idiot.

Christians are not required to allow themselves to be massacred by Islamic terrorists without fighting back.

NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY. We fight back by showing them why Christianity is the best religion in the world. We exemplify the word of God. I said for anyone who knows Christ -- not you in other words.

Atheists often know Christ - many even believed in him once.

How can you be an atheist and know Christ? Sincere question.

Easily, as a pp said, many atheists were once Christians. So we know all about Christ. We were taught it, like any other Christian.

Plus, you don't even need to be a Christian to know Christ. He's famous. He has a religion named after him. People learn about him in school.

Knowing Christ and knowing about Christ is not the same thing. To know Christ is to have a relationship with Christ. Again, you cannot be an atheist and know Christ. I know about Donald Trump, but I don’t know Trump. I was taught about Obama in school, but I don’t know him.

You are still 100% incorrect. Many of us did "know" christ. I was raised in an evangelical community and once was an avid crusader for christ. I used to claim I had the feeling of Jesus in my heart.

I also grew up and learned the real truth. It is all BS.

Just like people who find God later in life, the zeal of the converts to atheism is particularly dogmatic and fervent.

It is better to have zeal and dogmatism for truth than millenia old fairytales.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist but without my judgement being clouded by god can see that OP is a naive idiot.

Christians are not required to allow themselves to be massacred by Islamic terrorists without fighting back.

NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY. We fight back by showing them why Christianity is the best religion in the world. We exemplify the word of God. I said for anyone who knows Christ -- not you in other words.

Atheists often know Christ - many even believed in him once.

How can you be an atheist and know Christ? Sincere question.

Easily, as a pp said, many atheists were once Christians. So we know all about Christ. We were taught it, like any other Christian.

Plus, you don't even need to be a Christian to know Christ. He's famous. He has a religion named after him. People learn about him in school.

Knowing Christ and knowing about Christ is not the same thing. To know Christ is to have a relationship with Christ. Again, you cannot be an atheist and know Christ. I know about Donald Trump, but I don’t know Trump. I was taught about Obama in school, but I don’t know him.

You are still 100% incorrect. Many of us did "know" christ. I was raised in an evangelical community and once was an avid crusader for christ. I used to claim I had the feeling of Jesus in my heart.

I also grew up and learned the real truth. It is all BS.

Just like people who find God later in life, the zeal of the converts to atheism is particularly dogmatic and fervent.

If you realized that more than half of of the people did not recognize the benefits of vaccines, You'd probably be zealous about getting people to recognize their benefits, too. The same goes for religion. Once the majority of people don't believe, we'll be better off.

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