Judge my lottery list for MS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Im assuming if your child is in Adams morgan they are in 4th at hd cooke or marie reed. Do they have a temporary right to francis already? Those two schools were allowed to go to cardozo for middle instead of CHEC. Students from the other feeders for cardozo like garrison are allowed temporarily to attend francis. Worth looking into.

I don't think this is right. I believe only the future geographic feeders to Euclid (Cleveland, Garrison, and Seaton) have temporary feeder rights to John-Francis, and NOT the future programmatic feeders to Euclid (Cooke, Reed, Tubman).

https://dcpsplanning.com/2024/10/02/changes-to-the-cardozo-feeder-pattern/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im assuming if your child is in Adams morgan they are in 4th at hd cooke or marie reed. Do they have a temporary right to francis already? Those two schools were allowed to go to cardozo for middle instead of CHEC. Students from the other feeders for cardozo like garrison are allowed temporarily to attend francis. Worth looking into.

I don't think this is right. I believe only the future geographic feeders to Euclid (Cleveland, Garrison, and Seaton) have temporary feeder rights to John-Francis, and NOT the future programmatic feeders to Euclid (Cooke, Reed, Tubman).

https://dcpsplanning.com/2024/10/02/changes-to-the-cardozo-feeder-pattern/

Good to know. Thanks for looking up the documentation. I think that policy choice was a little unfair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im assuming if your child is in Adams morgan they are in 4th at hd cooke or marie reed. Do they have a temporary right to francis already? Those two schools were allowed to go to cardozo for middle instead of CHEC. Students from the other feeders for cardozo like garrison are allowed temporarily to attend francis. Worth looking into.

I don't think this is right. I believe only the future geographic feeders to Euclid (Cleveland, Garrison, and Seaton) have temporary feeder rights to John-Francis, and NOT the future programmatic feeders to Euclid (Cooke, Reed, Tubman).

https://dcpsplanning.com/2024/10/02/changes-to-the-cardozo-feeder-pattern/

Good to know. Thanks for looking up the documentation. I think that policy choice was a little unfair.

Purely from a capacity standpoint John-Francis can only take on so many additional students.

But I am curious how CHEC intends to handle incoming students from Cooke, Reed, and Tubman who have no prior experience in Spanish.

[Anonymous]

This is OP, we did talk to CHEC and they admitted it’s very difficult and challenging to come in with zero Spanish as there are entire subjects just taught in Spanish (social studies for example).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is OP, we did talk to CHEC and they admitted it’s very difficult and challenging to come in with zero Spanish as there are entire subjects just taught in Spanish (social studies for example).

That is the high school. CHEC middle school is a boundary school that has to take everyone IB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP, we did talk to CHEC and they admitted it’s very difficult and challenging to come in with zero Spanish as there are entire subjects just taught in Spanish (social studies for example).

That is the high school. CHEC middle school is a boundary school that has to take everyone IB.

Correct, we got that answer for the middle school.

[Anonymous]

what grades are in the classrooms without windows? or is it random?

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Anonymous wrote:can parents with kids in basis comment the "natural light" part? is it true?

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Anonymous wrote:My mathy kids loves BASIS too. Don't discard it so quickly! He runs cross country and track on the mall 4 days a week after school, has lots of friends, no FOMO here at all.

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Discard BASIS quickly if your kid loves anything but math and science (I won't go as far as STEM since there's hardly any tech or engineering, school can't afford them). Avoid if your kid enjoys foreign languages, visual arts (painting, pottery, sculpting) singing, acting, dancing, serious sports, playing music. Oh and natural light, if that matters, don't bother.

The building is definitely the biggest downside of the school. It's in fine condition but it's cramped and yes, about half the classrooms have no windows. The other half do, and the classrooms on the top floor (art, the chem labs) are actually pleasant.

That being said it doesn't seem to bother my kid that much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW Latin’s accelerated math track is the same as St Anselm’s accelerated math track. Now if you had your kid do an algebra or geometry over the summer to accelerate further, they might handle it differently, but both would be very unhappy with you for doing it. And as far as I can tell, “only” doing geometry in 8th grade isn’t going to mean your kid can’t do STEM in college or for a career.

We looked at St. Anselms and passed, did not apply. We were not impressed and did not think it was worth the 40k plus for 7 years when that money could go towards college.

Our kid is at DCI and so far it’s been a good experience. We did get into a well known private talked more about on this board that we liked and applied to but no financial aid so passed.

We will see how middle school goes to assess staying for high school at DCI. Private for high school is on the table if needed.

No interest in Hardy, Deal, or high schools WOTP.

DCI is a good 6th-12th grade program but there are hidden problems to look out for. Problem #1: behavioral problems in the MS mainly because there aren't honors classes outside language and math. MS science, English and social studies are far too easy for the strongest students.

Problem #2: their guidance counselors aren't experts on the IB Diploma so families aiming high for college often seek outside IB advice, if just on Redfin and Quora. HS students aren't necessarily told of the options they have as IBD candidates, e.g. how they can take 2 sciences rather than 1 science and 1 arts course (2-yr courses). Students aren't necessarily advised to double up on AP exams that correspond with IB exams or to pursue language immersion experiences to bone up for tough language exams.

The more ambitious DCI parents share IBD prep info. They order IB exam prep materials off Ebay and Amazon that the school doesn't know or care about, enroll their kids in IB test prep summer programs in the UK and Europe, hire outside tutors to prep for language exams etc.

DCI's IB program is OK but not on a par with the best of the burbs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW Latin’s accelerated math track is the same as St Anselm’s accelerated math track. Now if you had your kid do an algebra or geometry over the summer to accelerate further, they might handle it differently, but both would be very unhappy with you for doing it. And as far as I can tell, “only” doing geometry in 8th grade isn’t going to mean your kid can’t do STEM in college or for a career.

We looked at St. Anselms and passed, did not apply. We were not impressed and did not think it was worth the 40k plus for 7 years when that money could go towards college.

Our kid is at DCI and so far it’s been a good experience. We did get into a well known private talked more about on this board that we liked and applied to but no financial aid so passed.

We will see how middle school goes to assess staying for high school at DCI. Private for high school is on the table if needed.

No interest in Hardy, Deal, or high schools WOTP.

OK? It seems like this path isn't attractive or available to OP (she doesn't want Spanish). not seeing how this is at all helpful to the OP. Plently of people do like St. Anselms, Hardy, Deal and application high schools.

You don’t need to want spanish to go to DCI. Kids come in with no language background and you just take language 101 of whatever language you want.

Also helpful to hear about St Anselms. Privates are an available option to OP as in her post and she should know there are other better options with private.

I don’t think she be Op learned anything about St Anselm’s except one person here visited and didn’t like it and that their accelerated math program for middle school is similar to Latin’s. St. Anselm’s us a great school for the right kids.

[Anonymous]

The right boys at St. Anselm's are the ones from families with 35K/year to throw at it and an aptitude for a dead language (Latin). Their Fi Aid is weak and their modern languages aren't too hot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The right boys at St. Anselm's are the ones from families with 35K/year to throw at it and an aptitude for a dead language (Latin). Their Fi Aid is weak and their modern languages aren't too hot.

Right, I hear you, but the same can be said for Latin Charter, no? Obv. it's for free, but seems like the same type of student.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The right boys at St. Anselm's are the ones from families with 35K/year to throw at it and an aptitude for a dead language (Latin). Their Fi Aid is weak and their modern languages aren't too hot.

Right, I hear you, but the same can be said for Latin Charter, no? Obv. it's for free, but seems like the same type of student.

Not the same at all. Latin is much more like a typical high school experience with sports and girls. It's a bigger school and feels bigger. And because Latin is lottery, there are many less academically gifted students. There is no requirement of aptitude or enthusiasm for studying Latin or anything else. And plenty of people at Latin aren't there for the Latin. They're there because it's a good school and they can lock down a high school path for their family and not have to deal with selective admissions public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im assuming if your child is in Adams morgan they are in 4th at hd cooke or marie reed. Do they have a temporary right to francis already? Those two schools were allowed to go to cardozo for middle instead of CHEC. Students from the other feeders for cardozo like garrison are allowed temporarily to attend francis. Worth looking into.

I don't think this is right. I believe only the future geographic feeders to Euclid (Cleveland, Garrison, and Seaton) have temporary feeder rights to John-Francis, and NOT the future programmatic feeders to Euclid (Cooke, Reed, Tubman).

https://dcpsplanning.com/2024/10/02/changes-to-the-cardozo-feeder-pattern/

Good to know. Thanks for looking up the documentation. I think that policy choice was a little unfair.

The temporary shift for Garrison/Seaton/Cleveland was a lift as it was. But that's why many of us involved fought hard for HD Cooke, Marie Reed, and Tubman to be included in the future Euclid St school at all. I'm glad that's happening and it includes all 6 schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im assuming if your child is in Adams morgan they are in 4th at hd cooke or marie reed. Do they have a temporary right to francis already? Those two schools were allowed to go to cardozo for middle instead of CHEC. Students from the other feeders for cardozo like garrison are allowed temporarily to attend francis. Worth looking into.

I don't think this is right. I believe only the future geographic feeders to Euclid (Cleveland, Garrison, and Seaton) have temporary feeder rights to John-Francis, and NOT the future programmatic feeders to Euclid (Cooke, Reed, Tubman).

https://dcpsplanning.com/2024/10/02/changes-to-the-cardozo-feeder-pattern/

Tubman parent here. This poster is correct, Cooke, Reed and Tubman do not have temporary feeder rights to John Francis. In addition to our standard feeder rights to CHEC, we have "programmatic" feeder rights (ie, people who do not want to go to Spanish immersion) to MacFarland Middle School temporarily. Once the Euclid Middle School is open, we will have programmatic feeder rights there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW Latin’s accelerated math track is the same as St Anselm’s accelerated math track. Now if you had your kid do an algebra or geometry over the summer to accelerate further, they might handle it differently, but both would be very unhappy with you for doing it. And as far as I can tell, “only” doing geometry in 8th grade isn’t going to mean your kid can’t do STEM in college or for a career.

We looked at St. Anselms and passed, did not apply. We were not impressed and did not think it was worth the 40k plus for 7 years when that money could go towards college.

Our kid is at DCI and so far it’s been a good experience. We did get into a well known private talked more about on this board that we liked and applied to but no financial aid so passed.

We will see how middle school goes to assess staying for high school at DCI. Private for high school is on the table if needed.

No interest in Hardy, Deal, or high schools WOTP.

DCI is a good 6th-12th grade program but there are hidden problems to look out for. Problem #1: behavioral problems in the MS mainly because there aren't honors classes outside language and math. MS science, English and social studies are far too easy for the strongest students.

Problem #2: their guidance counselors aren't experts on the IB Diploma so families aiming high for college often seek outside IB advice, if just on Redfin and Quora. HS students aren't necessarily told of the options they have as IBD candidates, e.g. how they can take 2 sciences rather than 1 science and 1 arts course (2-yr courses). Students aren't necessarily advised to double up on AP exams that correspond with IB exams or to pursue language immersion experiences to bone up for tough language exams.

The more ambitious DCI parents share IBD prep info. They order IB exam prep materials off Ebay and Amazon that the school doesn't know or care about, enroll their kids in IB test prep summer programs in the UK and Europe, hire outside tutors to prep for language exams etc.

DCI's IB program is OK but not on a par with the best of the burbs.

You want to be realistic, OP. No DC public middle school is all thatgoing to be all that great. Lack of MS challenge for top performers at DCI is hardly restricted to DCI. Even BASIS humanities aren't first-rate. We know a number of families who bailed on Deal or Hardy after 1 or 2 years because their kids weren't pushed and they got fed up with the lack of transparency (especially few grades assignments being sent home). If you want a fine MS, the burbs or private, period.