What’s the deal with TN?
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Anonymous
| Lower tier flagship, comparable to any number of forgettable R1s. The football has been the biggest draw for decades. |
Anonymous
I think kids can get a fine education at an SEC school, and these schools are good fits for many of them. Lots of good people there. But having spent time in the South with family, my DS concluded that he would have a culturally more diverse experience at an urban, large NE private, which is correct. There’s a world beyond northeastern and Southern kids getting to know each other, a world beyond MAGA and liberals, and some of us are more interested in that. |
Anonymous
How can you make a general statement without evidence? |
Anonymous
Right…including kids like mine who were raised in the most diverse county in the country, attended very diverse mcps schools (not the ones on the west side of the county that are the most affluent and least diverse), were raised by very liberal parents with social justice type careers, who developed a very diverse friend group starting in preschool all the way through high school. I’m glad my kids stepped out of their diverse-yet-liberal bubble for college. While they had traveled the US and abroad, they hadn’t lived in a red state before. Now they have. And I can report they are better for it. I think going to a NE school or any private college in a blue state would have been strikingly comparable to mcps and MoCo. My kid can basically thrive in any situation. Drop them into any social setting among strangers and they can quickly make friends, network, etc. No fear, no judgment, no labels; just leveraging soft skills backed up by a solid foundation of treating people the way they want to be treated. As southern cities continue to boom, I wonder how some kids who have never set foot in a red state will fare if they wind up there for a job. |
Anonymous
They'll be fine, given that a lot of big cities in red states are blue. |
Anonymous
Your privilege is showing. |
Anonymous
It is a good question, although there is a bit more homogeneity among the UMC around the US than there used to be. I’ve defended SEC schools on other threads against the bias you mention. Being from out west with southern family, I find this NE/South thing rather annoying, especially when social life and culture aren’t defined by state boundaries. So I find myself in the anomalous position of defending the South while my kid goes elsewhere. The liberal/conservative emphasis is rather odd, too. At my son’s urban public high school, that wasn’t a big thing as most kids were politically disengaged. |
Anonymous
What exactly are you trying to refute here? Are you saying Tufts is diverse or is not diverse? You're losing me. Do you care to share your statement and facts to back it up? |
Anonymous
Nice try. Both of these schools have some students with black skin, whose parents were born in Nigeria and are doctors. Sometimes the students themselves are African nationals. .0001% are from inner city Chicago or St. Louis. |
Anonymous
I have family in both of those cities. Kids from those inner city schools are overall graduating illiterate and unable to do 3rd grade math. The government structure that has dominated those cities for decades wants an illiterate ignorant uneducated population so they have a permanent uneducated dependent underclass. The one party dominance of cities like Chicago and St. Louis and what they have actively worked to put into their school systems is the worst kind of racism. That being said, the number of kids graduating from St. Louis and Chicago inner city public schools able to read enough and do high enough math to get into the Tennessee flagship university and SEC flagships is not really relevant to this discussion. |
Anonymous
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There are a couple of posters who wouldn't deign to send their kids to any southern school, or even set foot into a southern stat, who regularly and immediately jump onto any thread about southern universities, simply to slam the programs, states and universities they know nothing about, disparaging anyone who is excited about their kid's acceptances to make them feel bad.
Either they are bored uninformed trolls from the politics forum, or they are overseas troll farms. |
Anonymous
You said those schools are more diverse with higher AA percentages. Prove it. |
Anonymous
Honestly, how could they be fine when countless posters make clear they would sooner cut off their arm than allow their kid to go to school in a red state? That sort of blanket statement underscores a lifetime of bias, assumptions, and labels. College campuses skew liberal, yet these posters paint pictures of MAGA frat bros and ditzy blondes only interested in finding a husband comprising the entire student body. They assume everyone is white and stupid. Zero diversity, and rampant racial violence surely must occur during daily interactions. It’s that sort of irrational fear that undoubtedly affects kids raised by such people, so how can they magically stretch enough to even consider a job in a (Gasp!) red state? And even more directly: I wonder how many privileged white kids raised in diverse areas like DC who are essentially educated in elite, affluent, and mostly white schools and live in expensive, mostly white neighborhoods who go onto fancy private colleges in New England (or similar) would consider someplace like Atlanta or Birmingham (cities with large black populations) or anyplace in FL or TX (which have largely been labeled as no go zones by dcum). Heck, what about Arkansas? Would your grad from Northwestern or Columbia or Middlebury even consider a six figure job offer in any of these places, or would they be frightened by the possibility? Based on the nonsense I routinely read on dcum posted by presumably good people with liberal views so strong they have created black and white lines that prompt them to immediately make assumptions and label people, schools, and entire states, I am hesitant to believe kids raised under such circumstances are open-minded and comfortable in any setting. |
Anonymous
WTH are you talking about? Here is my exact post: So you say a kid at UTK is going to venture off to Memphis while on spring break to commune with the black folks of TN? Give me a break. You're missing the headline. UTK is not representative of the state that it serves even though ~80% of UTK is from TN. You don't find that alarming? Boston College and Tufts actually have black students that represent the state. |
Anonymous
This was in response to a poster trying to suggest NE colleges are more diverse even though the states are very vanilla. I’m asking for proof the “elite” colleges have more AA diversity than SEC schools. Don’t count rich internationals. Show us how they are educating more AA students than SEC schools. |