USNWR Top 30 Undergrad ENGINEERING Programs

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Anonymous wrote:wait wait hold tf up:

UNC Chapel Hill is ranked 50th for engineering?? Tied with Rutgers, Tufts, UDel, Arizona, Iowa State, and Clemson?

They don't have an engineering program. the only ABET program is a joint program with NC State -- where all of the engineering coursework happens in Raleigh lol

I feel that this tells us something about how seriously we should take these rankings (but damn I'd hate to be Rutgers or Clemson here! ouch)

Never scrolled down to 50 to see that. Yeah, not good.

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

It's significantly harder to get into Harvard or Columbia for engineering than Purdue or Wisconsin, simply because the Ivy League schools are more selective overall. However, most of the top 30 public engineering schools, like Purdue and Wisconsin are accessible to strong students. My current freshman was accepted at several of the Big 10 engineering schools but wouldn't have had a shot at an Ivy.

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Fact is you don’t go to T10 schools to do engineering… you can dabble a bit in it. In the hierarchy of things , engineering is not up there. It makes for a very good life - if u are a good engineer - but that’s it. I speak as an engineer (immigrated in the early 90s)

If you are an "engineer" . The world is your oyster with an engineering degree especially from one of those top schools. You can do so many things as far as careers that don't involve actually being "just" an engineer.

I agree with this. You can do so many exciting things with an engineering degree. Pretty sure the engineers at SpaceX are feeling very accomplished doing “just engineering.”

But getting an engineering degree from one of the traditional “elite” schools opens so many doors that maybe aren’t available to the Purdue grads. Finance and consulting are recruiting heavily among engineering students at the top 20 or so schools.

Because those students are always bright and disciplined and very good at solving real world problems. And it takes more than a high SAT score to get into a T20 school. And those soft skills translate.

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A largely pointless rating system. It's literally all how all the other schools vote.

Hence why majority are large schools (save mit/caltech)

Missing so many great smaller schools because of this. Also a lot of "you vote for us at c and we will vote for you at y" I bet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A largely pointless rating system. It's literally all how all the other schools vote.

Hence why majority are large schools (save mit/caltech)

Missing so many great smaller schools because of this. Also a lot of "you vote for us at c and we will vote for you at y" I bet

Because these schools have great programs and our great research Universities on top of it all. These top schools get millions of dollars for research that are changing lives. No BIG research $$$ is flowing into these smaller schooler you say are not on the list and there is a reason for that. Call me crazy, but I would rather be at a school that has these huge research dollars flow in because that creates a wonderful learning platform. There is a reason for these rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:A largely pointless rating system. It's literally all how all the other schools vote.

Hence why majority are large schools (save mit/caltech)

Missing so many great smaller schools because of this. Also a lot of "you vote for us at c and we will vote for you at y" I bet

Because these schools have great programs and our great research Universities on top of it all. These top schools get millions of dollars for research that are changing lives. No BIG research $$$ is flowing into these smaller schooler you say are not on the list and there is a reason for that. Call me crazy, but I would rather be at a school that has these huge research dollars flow in because that creates a wonderful learning platform. There is a reason for these rankings.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/georgia-tech-is-teaching-other-universities-a-fundraising-lesson/ar-AA1LuafW
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2023/01/02/the-top-20-american-universities-for-r-and-d-funding-in-engineering/

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

It's significantly harder to get into Harvard or Columbia for engineering than Purdue or Wisconsin, simply because the Ivy League schools are more selective overall. However, most of the top 30 public engineering schools, like Purdue and Wisconsin are accessible to strong students. My current freshman was accepted at several of the Big 10 engineering schools but wouldn't have had a shot at an Ivy.

+1

Fact is you don’t go to T10 schools to do engineering… you can dabble a bit in it. In the hierarchy of things , engineering is not up there. It makes for a very good life - if u are a good engineer - but that’s it. I speak as an engineer (immigrated in the early 90s)

If you are an "engineer" . The world is your oyster with an engineering degree especially from one of those top schools. You can do so many things as far as careers that don't involve actually being "just" an engineer.

I agree with this. You can do so many exciting things with an engineering degree. Pretty sure the engineers at SpaceX are feeling very accomplished doing “just engineering.”

But getting an engineering degree from one of the traditional “elite” schools opens so many doors that maybe aren’t available to the Purdue grads. Finance and consulting are recruiting heavily among engineering students at the top 20 or so schools.

Because those students are always bright and disciplined and very good at solving real world problems. And it takes more than a high SAT score to get into a T20 school. And those soft skills translate.

So the pinnacle of an engineering degree is to... not do engineering? Students who want to shuffle money around instead of building rockets are probably best served by Harvard or Yale's weak sauce engineering programs. Those who want to actually build things go to MIT, Caltech, or serious state programs like Purdue and Georgia Tech.

If you want engineering as a stepping stone to Wall Street, you should go where that's the culture. But if you want to build rockets or nuclear reactors, go to a real engineering school, not one that has engineering as a side hustle.

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Anonymous wrote:A largely pointless rating system. It's literally all how all the other schools vote.

Hence why majority are large schools (save mit/caltech)

Missing so many great smaller schools because of this. Also a lot of "you vote for us at c and we will vote for you at y" I bet

Because these schools have great programs and our great research Universities on top of it all. These top schools get millions of dollars for research that are changing lives. No BIG research $$$ is flowing into these smaller schooler you say are not on the list and there is a reason for that. Call me crazy, but I would rather be at a school that has these huge research dollars flow in because that creates a wonderful learning platform. There is a reason for these rankings.

True

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/georgia-tech-is-teaching-other-universities-a-fundraising-lesson/ar-AA1LuafW
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2023/01/02/the-top-20-american-universities-for-r-and-d-funding-in-engineering/

I toured big and small with kid when researching schools and there is no comparison to faculties and opportunities.

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

It's significantly harder to get into Harvard or Columbia for engineering than Purdue or Wisconsin, simply because the Ivy League schools are more selective overall. However, most of the top 30 public engineering schools, like Purdue and Wisconsin are accessible to strong students. My current freshman was accepted at several of the Big 10 engineering schools but wouldn't have had a shot at an Ivy.

+1

Fact is you don’t go to T10 schools to do engineering… you can dabble a bit in it. In the hierarchy of things , engineering is not up there. It makes for a very good life - if u are a good engineer - but that’s it. I speak as an engineer (immigrated in the early 90s)

If you are an "engineer" . The world is your oyster with an engineering degree especially from one of those top schools. You can do so many things as far as careers that don't involve actually being "just" an engineer.

I agree with this. You can do so many exciting things with an engineering degree. Pretty sure the engineers at SpaceX are feeling very accomplished doing “just engineering.”

But getting an engineering degree from one of the traditional “elite” schools opens so many doors that maybe aren’t available to the Purdue grads. Finance and consulting are recruiting heavily among engineering students at the top 20 or so schools.

Because those students are always bright and disciplined and very good at solving real world problems. And it takes more than a high SAT score to get into a T20 school. And those soft skills translate.

This is the truth. Go to the most elite school your kid can get into (provided they are unhooked and can handle it).
-Stem professor who has taught at ivy/elite and T75 publics.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

It's significantly harder to get into Harvard or Columbia for engineering than Purdue or Wisconsin, simply because the Ivy League schools are more selective overall. However, most of the top 30 public engineering schools, like Purdue and Wisconsin are accessible to strong students. My current freshman was accepted at several of the Big 10 engineering schools but wouldn't have had a shot at an Ivy.

+1

Fact is you don’t go to T10 schools to do engineering… you can dabble a bit in it. In the hierarchy of things , engineering is not up there. It makes for a very good life - if u are a good engineer - but that’s it. I speak as an engineer (immigrated in the early 90s)

If you are an "engineer" . The world is your oyster with an engineering degree especially from one of those top schools. You can do so many things as far as careers that don't involve actually being "just" an engineer.

I agree with this. You can do so many exciting things with an engineering degree. Pretty sure the engineers at SpaceX are feeling very accomplished doing “just engineering.”

But getting an engineering degree from one of the traditional “elite” schools opens so many doors that maybe aren’t available to the Purdue grads. Finance and consulting are recruiting heavily among engineering students at the top 20 or so schools.

Because those students are always bright and disciplined and very good at solving real world problems. And it takes more than a high SAT score to get into a T20 school. And those soft skills translate.

This is the truth. Go to the most elite school your kid can get into (provided they are unhooked and can handle it).
-Stem professor who has taught at ivy/elite and T75 publics.

So Professor, I should send my aspiring aerospace engineer to Dartmouth instead of Georgia Tech? Yale instead of GT? Notre Dame instead of GT? These higher ranked school are really going to provide a better engineering education than GT? Does Dartmouth or Yale even have a hypersonic wind tunnel or any wind tunnel for that matter?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

It's significantly harder to get into Harvard or Columbia for engineering than Purdue or Wisconsin, simply because the Ivy League schools are more selective overall. However, most of the top 30 public engineering schools, like Purdue and Wisconsin are accessible to strong students. My current freshman was accepted at several of the Big 10 engineering schools but wouldn't have had a shot at an Ivy.

+1

Fact is you don’t go to T10 schools to do engineering… you can dabble a bit in it. In the hierarchy of things , engineering is not up there. It makes for a very good life - if u are a good engineer - but that’s it. I speak as an engineer (immigrated in the early 90s)

If you are an "engineer" . The world is your oyster with an engineering degree especially from one of those top schools. You can do so many things as far as careers that don't involve actually being "just" an engineer.

I agree with this. You can do so many exciting things with an engineering degree. Pretty sure the engineers at SpaceX are feeling very accomplished doing “just engineering.”

But getting an engineering degree from one of the traditional “elite” schools opens so many doors that maybe aren’t available to the Purdue grads. Finance and consulting are recruiting heavily among engineering students at the top 20 or so schools.

Because those students are always bright and disciplined and very good at solving real world problems. And it takes more than a high SAT score to get into a T20 school. And those soft skills translate.

This is the truth. Go to the most elite school your kid can get into (provided they are unhooked and can handle it).
-Stem professor who has taught at ivy/elite and T75 publics.

So Professor, I should send my aspiring aerospace engineer to Dartmouth instead of Georgia Tech? Yale instead of GT? Notre Dame instead of GT? These higher ranked school are really going to provide a better engineering education than GT? Does Dartmouth or Yale even have a hypersonic wind tunnel or any wind tunnel for that matter?

Why would you want to send your kid to the third best engineering program and second ranked Aerospace program in the country at a 1/3 of the cost if your kids’s fortunate enough to get in. Listen to the professor. He knows. I’m pretty sure he or she taught philosophy or English