USNWR Top 30 Undergrad ENGINEERING Programs

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Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

You pulled that at of your a**. My DS is at one of those Top programs listed and has many friends that have turned down lower ranked programs at Ivies. These Top programs are highly recruited. You are in a bubble.

Ok, name the school. What are you afraid of? I'm betting it's not Penn State.

lol I don't have to prove anything to you message poster guy. I can tell you literally have 0 knowledge on the subject. I live it and see it. Keep posting nonsense.

Oh, well that settles it then. Some anonymous rankings obsessed weirdo says it because he lives through DS and won't back it up, so it must be true.

OK, I will start, where did you kid go to school for Engineering?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Based on these rankings, Harvard and Penn State are tied so if you got into both the Harvard name cache would probably put it over the edge.

But here's a real world example that's recent: my neighbor's DS got into Purdue and Dartmouth last Spring for engineering and chose Purdue. Purdue is ranked higher for engineering but some think because Dartmouth is an ivy that it's better period. Our neighbors went for engineering excellence over general pedigree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Alex, I will take "what people who didn't get into a Top Engineering School say" for $200.

Dude, you're a serious troll.

In any event, when a poster says "my son has many friends who turned down Ivies for top engineering schools" I don't assume they're wrong. But I do know that they're weirdos. I couldn't tell you what schools any of my kids' friends turned down for any of the schools that they went to because nobody cares. If that's the kind of thing you talk about with your kid, you have a sorry, sad and shallow relationship. And if that's the kind of thing your kid talks about with his friends, theirs is a sad relationship too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Based on these rankings, Harvard and Penn State are tied so if you got into both the Harvard name cache would probably put it over the edge.

But here's a real world example that's recent: my neighbor's DS got into Purdue and Dartmouth last Spring for engineering and chose Purdue. Purdue is ranked higher for engineering but some think because Dartmouth is an ivy that it's better period. Our neighbors went for engineering excellence over general pedigree.

I love the "my neighbor" "some think". Always reliable. Do you know a person that recruits for a Top Engineering firm at these schools. That may be more substantive. BTW Purdue is not a school that is at the Top for Engineering. A Good school for sure but not great. Try again. https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Alex, I will take "what people who didn't get into a Top Engineering School say" for $200.

Dude, you're a serious troll.

In any event, when a poster says "my son has many friends who turned down Ivies for top engineering schools" I don't assume they're wrong. But I do know that they're weirdos. I couldn't tell you what schools any of my kids' friends turned down for any of the schools that they went to because nobody cares. If that's the kind of thing you talk about with your kid, you have a sorry, sad and shallow relationship. And if that's the kind of thing your kid talks about with his friends, theirs is a sad relationship too.

I think people that make up things on the interweb are weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

You pulled that at of your a**. My DS is at one of those Top programs listed and has many friends that have turned down lower ranked programs at Ivies. These Top programs are highly recruited. You are in a bubble.

Ok, name the school. What are you afraid of? I'm betting it's not Penn State.

lol I don't have to prove anything to you message poster guy. I can tell you literally have 0 knowledge on the subject. I live it and see it. Keep posting nonsense.

Oh, well that settles it then. Some anonymous rankings obsessed weirdo says it because he lives through DS and won't back it up, so it must be true.

OK, I will start, where did you kid go to school for Engineering?

Where do YOU go?

One of my kids has a master's in public health. I don't claim that that makes me an expert on school's of public health.

See where I'm going?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Alex, I will take "what people who didn't get into a Top Engineering School say" for $200.

Dude, you're a serious troll.

In any event, when a poster says "my son has many friends who turned down Ivies for top engineering schools" I don't assume they're wrong. But I do know that they're weirdos. I couldn't tell you what schools any of my kids' friends turned down for any of the schools that they went to because nobody cares. If that's the kind of thing you talk about with your kid, you have a sorry, sad and shallow relationship. And if that's the kind of thing your kid talks about with his friends, theirs is a sad relationship too.

Huh, my kid is a freshman at college and their friends quite often talked about what schools they applied to in the process especially early on. Some kids also talk to their parents on occasion and share things. Strange post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Based on these rankings, Harvard and Penn State are tied so if you got into both the Harvard name cache would probably put it over the edge.

But here's a real world example that's recent: my neighbor's DS got into Purdue and Dartmouth last Spring for engineering and chose Purdue. Purdue is ranked higher for engineering but some think because Dartmouth is an ivy that it's better period. Our neighbors went for engineering excellence over general pedigree.

I love the "my neighbor" "some think". Always reliable. Do you know a person that recruits for a Top Engineering firm at these schools. That may be more substantive. BTW Purdue is not a school that is at the Top for Engineering. A Good school for sure but not great. Try again. https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering/

Well, c'mon . . . Purdue is VERY good at engineering. Be reasonable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Alex, I will take "what people who didn't get into a Top Engineering School say" for $200.

Dude, you're a serious troll.

In any event, when a poster says "my son has many friends who turned down Ivies for top engineering schools" I don't assume they're wrong. But I do know that they're weirdos. I couldn't tell you what schools any of my kids' friends turned down for any of the schools that they went to because nobody cares. If that's the kind of thing you talk about with your kid, you have a sorry, sad and shallow relationship. And if that's the kind of thing your kid talks about with his friends, theirs is a sad relationship too.

Huh, my kid is a freshman at college and their friends quite often talked about what schools they applied to in the process especially early on. Some kids also talk to their parents on occasion and share things. Strange
post.

I know. Weird ones. We have four kids. They went to very good schools. They have lot of friends. There are plenty of interesting things to talk about beyond schools that their friends turned down for college. It's something that has never come up. That kind of talk is limited to people with parents who do stuff like post the top 30 schools for engineering . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Alex, I will take "what people who didn't get into a Top Engineering School say" for $200.

Dude, you're a serious troll.

In any event, when a poster says "my son has many friends who turned down Ivies for top engineering schools" I don't assume they're wrong. But I do know that they're weirdos. I couldn't tell you what schools any of my kids' friends turned down for any of the schools that they went to because nobody cares. If that's the kind of thing you talk about with your kid, you have a sorry, sad and shallow relationship. And if that's the kind of thing your kid talks about with his friends, theirs is a sad relationship too.

Huh, my kid is a freshman at college and their friends quite often talked about what schools they applied to in the process especially early on. Some kids also talk to their parents on occasion and share things. Strange
post.

I know. Weird ones. We have four kids. They went to very good schools. They have lot of friends. There are plenty of interesting things to talk about beyond schools that their friends turned down for college. It's something that has never come up. That kind of talk is limited to people with parents who do stuff like post the top 30 schools for engineering . . .

Wait, aren't you the one that came on this thread first to post how going to a top engineering school means nothing? Not one person on this thread had gone there until you posted. Can't make it up. Take a deep breath and go for a nice walk or something. Fall is beautiful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Digging Deeper into the Engineering rankings. Cal Tech is not at Top for many disciplines.

Chemical Engineering

1.MIT
2.Georgia Tech

Biomedical Engineering

1. Georgia Tech
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Duke

Aerospace Engineering

1.MIT
2.Georgia Tech

Electrical Engineering

1.UC Berkely
2.MIT
3.Georgia Tech
4.Stanford

Civil Engineering

1.UC Berkely
2.Georgia Tech

Industrial Engineering

1.Georgia Tech

Environmental Engineering

1.Georgia Tech
2.UC Berkely

Mechanical Engineering

1.MIT
2.Stanford
3.Cal Berkely
4.Georgia Tech

What stands out to me is that Georgia Tech shows up in each disclipine. Yet, in the OP, MIT and Stanford come in ahead of Ga Tech. But they don't show up as 1 or 2 in the rankings by discipline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Based on these rankings, Harvard and Penn State are tied so if you got into both the Harvard name cache would probably put it over the edge.

But here's a real world example that's recent: my neighbor's DS got into Purdue and Dartmouth last Spring for engineering and chose Purdue. Purdue is ranked higher for engineering but some think because Dartmouth is an ivy that it's better period. Our neighbors went for engineering excellence over general pedigree.

I love the "my neighbor" "some think". Always reliable. Do you know a person that recruits for a Top Engineering firm at these schools. That may be more substantive. BTW Purdue is not a school that is at the Top for Engineering. A Good school for sure but not great. Try again. https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering/

Well, c'mon . . . Purdue is VERY good at engineering. Be reasonable.

Exactly. PP's aggressive response was truly unwarranted. This person clearly does not understand what s/he's talking about!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Based on these rankings, Harvard and Penn State are tied so if you got into both the Harvard name cache would probably put it over the edge.

But here's a real world example that's recent: my neighbor's DS got into Purdue and Dartmouth last Spring for engineering and chose Purdue. Purdue is ranked higher for engineering but some think because Dartmouth is an ivy that it's better period. Our neighbors went for engineering excellence over general pedigree.

I love the "my neighbor" "some think". Always reliable. Do you know a person that recruits for a Top Engineering firm at these schools. That may be more substantive. BTW Purdue is not a school that is at the Top for Engineering. A Good school for sure but not great. Try again. https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering/

Well, c'mon . . . Purdue is VERY good at engineering. Be reasonable.

Exactly. PP's aggressive response was truly unwarranted. This person clearly does not understand what s/he's talking about!

Have not gone for the walk yet, huh? LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

DS is interested in a very specific type of engineering that only MIT sort of has from this list (but it's not exactly what he wants). In THEORY he could be competitive for Ivy's, but he won't apply to any due to the major he wants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Digging Deeper into the Engineering rankings. Cal Tech is not at Top for many disciplines.

Chemical Engineering

1.MIT
2.Georgia Tech

Biomedical Engineering

1. Georgia Tech
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Duke

Aerospace Engineering

1.MIT
2.Georgia Tech

Electrical Engineering

1.UC Berkely
2.MIT
3.Georgia Tech
4.Stanford

Civil Engineering

1.UC Berkely
2.Georgia Tech

Industrial Engineering

1.Georgia Tech

Environmental Engineering

1.Georgia Tech
2.UC Berkely

Mechanical Engineering

1.MIT
2.Stanford
3.Cal Berkely
4.Georgia Tech

What stands out to me is that Georgia Tech shows up in each disclipine. Yet, in the OP, MIT and Stanford come in ahead of Ga Tech. But they don't show up as 1 or 2 in the rankings by discipline.

That's overall engineering in OP. USWR ranks separately for each discipline. Which makes sense since each is it's own school within the large engineering school and can vary differently in terms of funding, resources, industry reputation and other factors etc.