Only 57% of MCPS students proficient in reading, 36% proficient in math

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid did terrible at the MCAP. Just average scores. She is however 99th on MAP-R. Testing and knowledge are two different things.

Ha. The fact that MCPS doesn’t look at MCAP for magnet and CES selection shows how much faith they place in these tests-even though they use 4 days of instructional time to administer them

Most students and school districts don't care too much about MCAP. The state had to blackmail them into taking it more serious by making some of the MCAP tests graduation requirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's...really really bad. Yet the most popular thread on this forum is about magnet programs that serve 100 kids/year.

The families of the other 43% are probably not on this site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh so these are the MCAP scores from April. So does this mean that parents will get them soon, or will we have to wait a year again?

It's possible #s were fudged before results were released. 57%?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh so these are the MCAP scores from April. So does this mean that parents will get them soon, or will we have to wait a year again?

They have electronic access to the individual score reports now. Call the testing & reporting unit to ask for it if you want it now. Otherwise I"m sure you'll be waiting until 2026.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/directory/directory_Boxoffice.aspx?processlevel=62501

No! No parent should have to reach out to a unit to request for scores/report!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid did terrible at the MCAP. Just average scores. She is however 99th on MAP-R. Testing and knowledge are two different things.

Oh interesting. I wonder how common this is? Not this exact disparity (99th percentile MAP kid scoring low on MCAP) but just in general kids being rated as "not proficient" on MCAP despite actually being proficient...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet, MCPS thinks we need more magnets. That will surely get the 36% proficiency up.

It’s possible to do more than one thing at a time. To completely neglect top performers (ie, grades 1–3) in order to focus 100% on the lowest performers is not a good solution.

The solution is teacher and school accountability. They behave like workers who are in jobs where they cannot be fired. MCPS pays teachers far higher than most parts of the country and the results of the teaching is terrible (see the MCAP results).

To clarify, I am talking about the bad teachers. The ones who do not hand back classwork, do not make accurate or good corrections, who focus more on letting a student because of their condition disrupt the class rather than teach, the list goes on. Thank goodness I do not have to deal with that awful MCPS ES anymore.

There are many amazing teachers here and they should be duly rewarded for their great work.

Or teachers telling students to just write something on the math homework to turn it in for completion. How are those students going to learn and build math skills if they put down 4 for 2+7??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh so these are the MCAP scores from April. So does this mean that parents will get them soon, or will we have to wait a year again?

They have electronic access to the individual score reports now. Call the testing & reporting unit to ask for it if you want it now. Otherwise I"m sure you'll be waiting until 2026.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/directory/directory_Boxoffice.aspx?processlevel=62501

No! No parent should have to reach out to a unit to request for scores/report!

Agree but that’s where we are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh so these are the MCAP scores from April. So does this mean that parents will get them soon, or will we have to wait a year again?

It's possible #s were fudged before results were released. 57%?

Take your meds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it before I’ll say it again without Bethesda Potomac and parts of Rockville mcps is a mediocre school system in its current form I wouldn’t be surprised if the stats tumbled even more if those areas of the county did not exist or have the demographics they have

And this is why folks stop using DCUM or being apart of their PTA and community. Because they are sick and tired of dealing with ignorant statements like this. Because we've said it before, without some of ya'll in Bethesda,Potomac and Rockville who believe you are better than every other part of the county, MCPS would be a significantly better school districts that would work together and help all boats rise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid did terrible at the MCAP. Just average scores. She is however 99th on MAP-R. Testing and knowledge are two different things.

Oh interesting. I wonder how common this is? Not this exact disparity (99th percentile MAP kid scoring low on MCAP) but just in general kids being rated as "not proficient" on MCAP despite actually being proficient...

Teachers and administrators have raised concerns about MCAP specifically for a long time. My 99th percentile kid did very well on MCAP for two years, then tanked it one year. What was different? Not the ability (MAP scores remained consistent), and not the effort (my kid is a Hermione Granger type who would die before purposefully throwing a test). Just...a bad day. Maybe she was coming down with something. Maybe she forgot to eat lunch. I have no idea, but it ultimately meant nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh so these are the MCAP scores from April. So does this mean that parents will get them soon, or will we have to wait a year again?

It's possible #s were fudged before results were released. 57%?

So your theory is that someone in Maryland state govt spends all summer fudging the data…ok that’s interesting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid did terrible at the MCAP. Just average scores. She is however 99th on MAP-R. Testing and knowledge are two different things.

Oh interesting. I wonder how common this is? Not this exact disparity (99th percentile MAP kid scoring low on MCAP) but just in general kids being rated as "not proficient" on MCAP despite actually being proficient...

Teachers and administrators have raised concerns about MCAP specifically for a long time. My 99th percentile kid did very well on MCAP for two years, then tanked it one year. What was different? Not the ability (MAP scores remained consistent), and not the effort (my kid is a Hermione Granger type who would die before purposefully throwing a test). Just...a bad day. Maybe she was coming down with something. Maybe she forgot to eat lunch. I have no idea, but it ultimately meant nothing.

Any kid can have a bad day. And relying on just one test when selecting for something meaningful is dangerous. Which is why it’s stupid that magnet and CES selection centers only on MAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid did terrible at the MCAP. Just average scores. She is however 99th on MAP-R. Testing and knowledge are two different things.

Oh interesting. I wonder how common this is? Not this exact disparity (99th percentile MAP kid scoring low on MCAP) but just in general kids being rated as "not proficient" on MCAP despite actually being proficient...

Teachers and administrators have raised concerns about MCAP specifically for a long time. My 99th percentile kid did very well on MCAP for two years, then tanked it one year. What was different? Not the ability (MAP scores remained consistent), and not the effort (my kid is a Hermione Granger type who would die before purposefully throwing a test). Just...a bad day. Maybe she was coming down with something. Maybe she forgot to eat lunch. I have no idea, but it ultimately meant nothing.

It’s hilarious how whenever the test scores are bad, school system defenders will insist there’s something wrong with the test and not the school system. And yet, when the scores are good, the system has no qualms about using them as evidence to crow about how great the system is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid did terrible at the MCAP. Just average scores. She is however 99th on MAP-R. Testing and knowledge are two different things.

Oh interesting. I wonder how common this is? Not this exact disparity (99th percentile MAP kid scoring low on MCAP) but just in general kids being rated as "not proficient" on MCAP despite actually being proficient...

Teachers and administrators have raised concerns about MCAP specifically for a long time. My 99th percentile kid did very well on MCAP for two years, then tanked it one year. What was different? Not the ability (MAP scores remained consistent), and not the effort (my kid is a Hermione Granger type who would die before purposefully throwing a test). Just...a bad day. Maybe she was coming down with something. Maybe she forgot to eat lunch. I have no idea, but it ultimately meant nothing.

Any kid can have a bad day. And relying on just one test when selecting for something meaningful is dangerous. Which is why it’s stupid that magnet and CES selection centers only on MAP.

But MAP is actually repeated three times during the school year. So it’s not just one test….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid did terrible at the MCAP. Just average scores. She is however 99th on MAP-R. Testing and knowledge are two different things.

Oh interesting. I wonder how common this is? Not this exact disparity (99th percentile MAP kid scoring low on MCAP) but just in general kids being rated as "not proficient" on MCAP despite actually being proficient...

Teachers and administrators have raised concerns about MCAP specifically for a long time. My 99th percentile kid did very well on MCAP for two years, then tanked it one year. What was different? Not the ability (MAP scores remained consistent), and not the effort (my kid is a Hermione Granger type who would die before purposefully throwing a test). Just...a bad day. Maybe she was coming down with something. Maybe she forgot to eat lunch. I have no idea, but it ultimately meant nothing.

Any kid can have a bad day. And relying on just one test when selecting for something meaningful is dangerous. Which is why it’s stupid that magnet and CES selection centers only on MAP.

But MAP is actually repeated three times during the school year. So it’s not just one test….

Of course-but when they look at selection criteria for the magnets (for high school anyway), they only look at a single MAP test score data point-not the kid’s MAP history over time. Any kid can have an unusually good or a bad day.