13 yo daughter with ASD won’t stop touching me and others

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had no idea that touching was an ASD thing. My dd's best friend is autistic and touches her nonstop. To the point where dd begs her to stop and has to take breaks from her. DD can't play with her daily because it's too much for her to handle. Other kids at school expressed the same.

The touching was always there, it just wasn't as noticeable when they were preschoolers because preschoolers wrestle and are more hands on than older kids are (tweens and teenaged girls don't hug and touch).

Glad I saw this thread. I would never have thought it was autism. Her parents are affectionate, so it wasn't like she didn't get hugs at home or something, so dh and I were baffled.

yes, thank you for this. A kid on the spectrum hugging/touching is not “cute.” It is behavior they need to be taught to stop. Because it can have really negative repercussions on many levels.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She needs OT ASAP.

-child therapist

How would OT help with this?

There are OT practitioners that specialize in OT for sensory issues, which is what this is. She needs a sensory diet- she needs socially
acceptable ways to meet her sensory needs that don't depend on other people. Introducing fidgets, exercises, certain textures, movement activities etc all help. This is absolutely in an OT's wheelhouse and there is a plethora of information online about this.

You’re assuming a lot thinking this is a sensory need. Should give back your degree, this ain’t it.

You are responding to multiple people (who are all telling you the same thing btw). I never wrote on this thread what my degree is in so nice try but you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

Ok post some evidence about “sensory diets” changing disruptive behavior.

I understand that you are bitter because you have dedicated what is likely the majority of your adult life to a treatment modality that is increasingly viewed as outdated, ineffectual and cruel.

ABA is like someone coming in with a broken foot and teaching them to walk on it even though it hurts. Can they walk? Of course. Does it fix the problem? Of course not. Behavior indicates a need. Meet the need and the behavior disappears.

Can you even define ABA because you certainly have a lot of opinions on it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She needs OT ASAP.

-child therapist

How would OT help with this?

There are OT practitioners that specialize in OT for sensory issues, which is what this is. She needs a sensory diet- she needs socially
acceptable ways to meet her sensory needs that don't depend on other people. Introducing fidgets, exercises, certain textures, movement activities etc all help. This is absolutely in an OT's wheelhouse and there is a plethora of information online about this.

You’re assuming a lot thinking this is a sensory need. Should give back your degree, this ain’t it.

You are responding to multiple people (who are all telling you the same thing btw). I never wrote on this thread what my degree is in so nice try but you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

Ok post some evidence about “sensory diets” changing disruptive behavior.

I understand that you are bitter because you have dedicated what is likely the majority of your adult life to a treatment modality that is increasingly viewed as outdated, ineffectual and cruel.

ABA is like someone coming in with a broken foot and teaching them to walk on it even though it hurts. Can they walk? Of course. Does it fix the problem? Of course not. Behavior indicates a need. Meet the need and the behavior disappears.

ABA and other types of behavioral therapy are ESSENTIAL for kids on the spectrum with disruptive or unsafe behaviors. Notice I never said OT doesn't have value. But its value is not to modify behaviors.

You haven’t evaluated this child so you have no idea if ABA is the appropriate intervention here. You made your suggestion. It’s a good one. I’m sure OP read it. Your relentless badgering of other posters only undermines your credibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She needs OT ASAP.

-child therapist

How would OT help with this?

There are OT practitioners that specialize in OT for sensory issues, which is what this is. She needs a sensory diet- she needs socially
acceptable ways to meet her sensory needs that don't depend on other people. Introducing fidgets, exercises, certain textures, movement activities etc all help. This is absolutely in an OT's wheelhouse and there is a plethora of information online about this.

You’re assuming a lot thinking this is a sensory need. Should give back your degree, this ain’t it.

You are responding to multiple people (who are all telling you the same thing btw). I never wrote on this thread what my degree is in so nice try but you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

Ok post some evidence about “sensory diets” changing disruptive behavior.

I understand that you are bitter because you have dedicated what is likely the majority of your adult life to a treatment modality that is increasingly viewed as outdated, ineffectual and cruel.

ABA is like someone coming in with a broken foot and teaching them to walk on it even though it hurts. Can they walk? Of course. Does it fix the problem? Of course not. Behavior indicates a need. Meet the need and the behavior disappears.

ABA and other types of behavioral therapy are ESSENTIAL for kids on the spectrum with disruptive or unsafe behaviors. Notice I never said OT doesn't have value. But its value is not to modify behaviors.

You haven’t evaluated this child so you have no idea if ABA is the appropriate intervention here. You made your suggestion. It’s a good one. I’m sure OP read it. Your relentless badgering of other posters only undermines your credibility.

ABS or other behavioral therapies are definitely appropriate. Funny you are jumping down my throat and not the people insisting ABA is evil and she should just carry around a stuffed animal in public forever.

[Anonymous]

another therapist perspective here... I would not recommend ABA therapy since many in the autistic community have commented on its harmful techniques that increase shame and encourage "masking", in addition to changing themselves to fit the mold of a neurotypical person, which in turn drains them and causes burnout. (one resource on autistic experiences here: https://autisticadvocacy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Behavioral-Interventions-Report-Final.pdf)

Additionally OT and therapy could be helpful, in addition to parent coaching from a neurodiversity affirming provider who is able to approach this from a compassionate, strengths based approach. Shaming the child or telling them no isn't the best answer. Also learning tools to regulate yourself so that you can coregulate with her is so important. Connection calms the nervous system!

I recommend Dan Siegel's books and Ross Greene's approach of "kids do well if they can" and his collaborative and proactive solutions model.

While yes, it's important for the child to learn that touching people is not always welcome or ok if not ok with the receiving person, she is clearly reaching for regulation at a time of overload to her nervous system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:another therapist perspective here... I would not recommend ABA therapy since many in the autistic community have commented on its harmful techniques that increase shame and encourage "masking", in addition to changing themselves to fit the mold of a neurotypical person, which in turn drains them and causes burnout. (one resource on autistic experiences here: https://autisticadvocacy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Behavioral-Interventions-Report-Final.pdf)

Additionally OT and therapy could be helpful, in addition to parent coaching from a neurodiversity affirming provider who is able to approach this from a compassionate, strengths based approach. Shaming the child or telling them no isn't the best answer. Also learning tools to regulate yourself so that you can coregulate with her is so important. Connection calms the nervous system!

I recommend Dan Siegel's books and Ross Greene's approach of "kids do well if they can" and his collaborative and proactive solutions model.

While yes, it's important for the child to learn that touching people is not always welcome or ok if not ok with the receiving person, she is clearly reaching for regulation at a time of overload to her nervous system.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She needs OT ASAP.

-child therapist

How would OT help with this?

There are OT practitioners that specialize in OT for sensory issues, which is what this is. She needs a sensory diet- she needs socially
acceptable ways to meet her sensory needs that don't depend on other people. Introducing fidgets, exercises, certain textures, movement activities etc all help. This is absolutely in an OT's wheelhouse and there is a plethora of information online about this.

You’re assuming a lot thinking this is a sensory need. Should give back your degree, this ain’t it.

You are responding to multiple people (who are all telling you the same thing btw). I never wrote on this thread what my degree is in so nice try but you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

Ok post some evidence about “sensory diets” changing disruptive behavior.

I understand that you are bitter because you have dedicated what is likely the majority of your adult life to a treatment modality that is increasingly viewed as outdated, ineffectual and cruel.

ABA is like someone coming in with a broken foot and teaching them to walk on it even though it hurts. Can they walk? Of course. Does it fix the problem? Of course not. Behavior indicates a need. Meet the need and the behavior disappears.

ABA and other types of behavioral therapy are ESSENTIAL for kids on the spectrum with disruptive or unsafe behaviors. Notice I never said OT doesn't have value. But its value is not to modify behaviors.

You haven’t evaluated this child so you have no idea if ABA is the appropriate intervention here. You made your suggestion. It’s a good one. I’m sure OP read it. Your relentless badgering of other posters only undermines your credibility.

Maybe OP should stop creating fake narratives to push OT on people that don’t need it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:another therapist perspective here... I would not recommend ABA therapy since many in the autistic community have commented on its harmful techniques that increase shame and encourage "masking", in addition to changing themselves to fit the mold of a neurotypical person, which in turn drains them and causes burnout. (one resource on autistic experiences here: https://autisticadvocacy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Behavioral-Interventions-Report-Final.pdf)

Additionally OT and therapy could be helpful, in addition to parent coaching from a neurodiversity affirming provider who is able to approach this from a compassionate, strengths based approach. Shaming the child or telling them no isn't the best answer. Also learning tools to regulate yourself so that you can coregulate with her is so important. Connection calms the nervous system!

I recommend Dan Siegel's books and Ross Greene's approach of "kids do well if they can" and his collaborative and proactive solutions model.

While yes, it's important for the child to learn that touching people is not always welcome or ok if not ok with the receiving person, she is clearly reaching for regulation at a time of overload to her nervous system.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Unfortunately this seems to be written by someone who is supportive of ABA and not the most up to fate and affirming research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:another therapist perspective here... I would not recommend ABA therapy since many in the autistic community have commented on its harmful techniques that increase shame and encourage "masking", in addition to changing themselves to fit the mold of a neurotypical person, which in turn drains them and causes burnout. (one resource on autistic experiences here: https://autisticadvocacy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Behavioral-Interventions-Report-Final.pdf)

Additionally OT and therapy could be helpful, in addition to parent coaching from a neurodiversity affirming provider who is able to approach this from a compassionate, strengths based approach. Shaming the child or telling them no isn't the best answer. Also learning tools to regulate yourself so that you can coregulate with her is so important. Connection calms the nervous system!

I recommend Dan Siegel's books and Ross Greene's approach of "kids do well if they can" and his collaborative and proactive solutions model.

While yes, it's important for the child to learn that touching people is not always welcome or ok if not ok with the receiving person, she is clearly reaching for regulation at a time of overload to her nervous system.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Unfortunately this seems to be written by someone who is supportive of ABA and not the most up to fate and affirming research.

What is “affirming research” lol.