13 yo daughter with ASD won’t stop touching me and others

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

They are in fact trained in behavior and the fact that you don't know this is evidence that you don't know what you're talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

What's your degree in?

Behavior Analysis

Right. Let me guess, an online certificate and you work at ABA mill that scares these poor kids into submission.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

What's your degree in?

Behavior Analysis

"Behavior analysis" is not a degree.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

What's your degree in?

Behavior Analysis

Right. Let me guess, an online certificate and you work at ABA mill that scares these poor kids into submission.

A Masters Degree in ABA at a top rated university, 25 + years experience in many settings, and currently in private practice.

I love and appreciate Occupational Therapists, but the training and scope of practice is vastly different than that of a Behavior Analyst.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

What's your degree in?

Behavior Analysis

"Behavior analysis" is not a degree.

I have a Master’s Degree in Applied Behavior Analysis. It is, in fact, and actual degree.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

What's your degree in?

Behavior Analysis

Right. Let me guess, an online certificate and you work at ABA mill that scares these poor kids into submission.

A Masters Degree in ABA at a top rated university, 25 + years experience in many settings, and currently in private practice.

I love and appreciate Occupational Therapists, but the training and scope of practice is vastly different than that of a Behavior Analyst.

Great. 25 years ago was eons in the understanding of sensory behaviors in children. Fortunately we have much better tools today. ABA is a racket that hurts neurodivergent children and I'm sorry you spent so much of your life on it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

What's your degree in?

Behavior Analysis

"Behavior analysis" is not a degree.

Here’s some information in case you know someone interested in the field. Great line of work!

https://accreditation.abainternational.org/apply/accredited-programs.aspx

https://abamastersprograms.org/abai-accredited-bcba-programs/

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

What's your degree in?

Behavior Analysis

Right. Let me guess, an online certificate and you work at ABA mill that scares these poor kids into submission.

A Masters Degree in ABA at a top rated university, 25 + years experience in many settings, and currently in private practice.

I love and appreciate Occupational Therapists, but the training and scope of practice is vastly different than that of a Behavior Analyst.

Great. 25 years ago was eons in the understanding of sensory behaviors in children. Fortunately we have much better tools today. ABA is a racket that hurts neurodivergent children and I'm sorry you spent so much of your life on it.

You’re entitled to your opinion, I love my job and have helped thousands of children. Wouldn’t change a thing. Have a nice day!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

They are in fact trained in behavior and the fact that you don't know this is evidence that you don't know what you're talking about.

No they are not.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

What's your degree in?

Behavior Analysis

Right. Let me guess, an online certificate and you work at ABA mill that scares these poor kids into submission.

A Masters Degree in ABA at a top rated university, 25 + years experience in many settings, and currently in private practice.

I love and appreciate Occupational Therapists, but the training and scope of practice is vastly different than that of a Behavior Analyst.

Great. 25 years ago was eons in the understanding of sensory behaviors in children. Fortunately we have much better tools today. ABA is a racket that hurts neurodivergent children and I'm sorry you spent so much of your life on it.

You know what is a racket and hurts kids on the spectrum and their families? Unqualified professionals who would put a 13 year old in a weighted vest instead of sending her to a behavioral therapist who could actually teach her how to be in public settings without disruption and without invading people’s physical boundaries.

[Anonymous]

You know what else hurts families here? Stupid back and forth squabbling that has nothing to do with the OP. If you have a suggestion or a similar experience, share it. No need to diagnose, be definitive, or criticize another poster’s suggestion, or an entire profession. People are crowdsourcing. Be the crowd.

[Anonymous]

Costco is overwhelming to me as a neurotypical person. It’s impossible for my ASD 12 year old. Consider whether it’s necessary to bring her on such an errand. She may be struggling in that environment for understandable and predictable reasons.

[Anonymous]

Oh man. This type of behavior was one of the signs my child’s developmental pediatrician mentioned during the diagnosis at age 4!

Your daughter needs an OT (occupational therapist) yesterday.

She’s doing this because her body feels disregulated and yelling won’t help. It’s like telling someone not to scratch an itch. An OT will help find socially acceptable ways to address this. Often it’s making sure she can hang on things at home like monkey bars or a swing; maybe it’s a weighted blanket or weighted stuffed animal. These are just examples, an OT will work with your daughter to find accommodations that work for HER.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh man. This type of behavior was one of the signs my child’s developmental pediatrician mentioned during the diagnosis at age 4!

Your daughter needs an OT (occupational therapist) yesterday.

She’s doing this because her body feels disregulated and yelling won’t help. It’s like telling someone not to scratch an itch. An OT will help find socially acceptable ways to address this. Often it’s making sure she can hang on things at home like monkey bars or a swing; maybe it’s a weighted blanket or weighted stuffed animal. These are just examples, an OT will work with your daughter to find accommodations that work for HER.

An OT will instantly tell you it’s sensory related. If you want accommodations that will work for HER the last person you need is an OT.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, we do have her in OT (she just started a few weeks ago). To be honest I don’t think the person is amazing. Can you let me know, do most OTs take insurance? How would you go about finding a good one?

I'm the therapist from above. Honestly I think that OT is so important I would beg borrow and steal to get into a good one. Does your insurance reimburse out of network expenses? Most OTs do take insurance but good ones have waitlists because they're hard to find. To me it's worth pulling a kid from school for in order to get in with someone who knows what they're doing. Ask around with therapists and pediatricians and they will have suggestions for ones they like.

OT is not going to help this child. This is a behavioral issue that OP needs to address using behavioral tools.

Respectfully, are you a professional in this field? Because this is sensory seeking behavior that needs to be addressed from a sensory perspective. OTs work on behavior, that is part of the process. Who do you suggest she sees?

OT’s are NOT trained in behavior. This is evidenced by the fact that you jump to the conclusion that it’s a sensory seeking behavior.

What's your degree in?

Behavior Analysis

Right. Let me guess, an online certificate and you work at ABA mill that scares these poor kids into submission.

A Masters Degree in ABA at a top rated university, 25 + years experience in many settings, and currently in private practice.

I love and appreciate Occupational Therapists, but the training and scope of practice is vastly different than that of a Behavior Analyst.

Great. 25 years ago was eons in the understanding of sensory behaviors in children. Fortunately we have much better tools today. ABA is a racket that hurts neurodivergent children and I'm sorry you spent so much of your life on it.

NP. My child would be nonverbal today if it wasn't for ABA. The ABA therapists were able to get her to utter one sound on command and that led to her being able to make more and string them together into words. Being able to focus her behavior allowed her to learn math and reading. ABA was instrumental in reducing her self-harming behaviors. All accomplished by patient, caring and competent professionals. She would be stuck in some low functioning adult day care were it not for ABA.