Camp Mystic

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Anonymous wrote:I have learned so much about camp culture this week from the news. Anyone care to explain the use of Native American tribe names and headdresses by these white, Christian kids? Tradition?

What is your point? That these girls deserved to drown in a flood because the camp they were sent to has unenlightened traditions?

Oh stop. The PP was asking a question they didn't know about until this tragedy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have learned so much about camp culture this week from the news. Anyone care to explain the use of Native American tribe names and headdresses by these white, Christian kids? Tradition?

Just stop trying to divert. Start a new thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, historically a good number of these oldest camps have not been particularly religious, including Mystic. I was surprised to see it described as that in the media but then I saw that they even have that word on their website and social media now. In decades past they have been "Christian" like TCU or SMU are "Christian".

There are other much more faith-based camps in the area that are funded by church organizations, etc.

Maybe trying to appeal to a certain demographic.

Eww.

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Anonymous wrote:It's affecting me more than I thought it would. My 9 year old daughter got home from 3 weeks at camp this weekend and I cried myself to sleep last night thinking about if she was one of the girls at Mystic.

It doesn't change my mind about sending her to camp -- there's so much good that comes from it to forgo it for a statistically rare event (just like I keep sending my kid to school despite the very statistically rare event of school shootings) but its just so so awful.

I hope this is hyperbole. If not, it’s not a normal reaction.

Yes it is very much "normal" you must not have a kid. -DP

1000%. My very alpha husband teared up reading the latest last night too. When you have kids the same age, and it’s a small world with lots of friends of friends stories coming through, it is the normal human response.

There is a large space between tearing up, weeping a few minutes, and crying yourself to sleep. PP sounds ridiculous.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have learned so much about camp culture this week from the news. Anyone care to explain the use of Native American tribe names and headdresses by these white, Christian kids? Tradition?

What is your point? That these girls deserved to drown in a flood because the camp they were sent to has unenlightened traditions?

My point was really a question - this cultural appropriation is still going on? I was surprised to learn about the camp culture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have learned so much about camp culture this week from the news. Anyone care to explain the use of Native American tribe names and headdresses by these white, Christian kids? Tradition?

What is your point? That these girls deserved to drown in a flood because the camp they were sent to has unenlightened traditions?

My point was really a question - this cultural appropriation is still going on? I was surprised to learn about the camp culture.

After decades, it would be camp culture, not appropriation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have learned so much about camp culture this week from the news. Anyone care to explain the use of Native American tribe names and headdresses by these white, Christian kids? Tradition?

What is your point? That these girls deserved to drown in a flood because the camp they were sent to has unenlightened traditions?

My point was really a question - this cultural appropriation is still going on? I was surprised to learn about the camp culture.

After decades, it would be camp culture, not appropriation.

It’s very common. Girl Scouts and boys scouts in blue states, etc.
what is less common is drowning in a flood…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, historically a good number of these oldest camps have not been particularly religious, including Mystic. I was surprised to see it described as that in the media but then I saw that they even have that word on their website and social media now. In decades past they have been "Christian" like TCU or SMU are "Christian".

There are other much more faith-based camps in the area that are funded by church organizations, etc.

True, but as a Jew, I wouldn't send my kid there....

But doesn't the jewish community traditionally have Jewish camps, that Jewish kids love and that lasts about 2 months? All of my Jewish friends went to jewish camp and now send their kids to Jewish camp. They rave about it. So your statement doesn't make much sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, historically a good number of these oldest camps have not been particularly religious, including Mystic. I was surprised to see it described as that in the media but then I saw that they even have that word on their website and social media now. In decades past they have been "Christian" like TCU or SMU are "Christian".

There are other much more faith-based camps in the area that are funded by church organizations, etc.

True, but as a Jew, I wouldn't send my kid there....

But doesn't the jewish community traditionally have Jewish camps, that Jewish kids love and that lasts about 2 months? All of my Jewish friends went to jewish camp and now send their kids to Jewish camp. They rave about it. So your statement doesn't make much sense.

Such a camp doesn’t sound very inclusive.

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My nephew's camp in MA still uses Native American language in some of their camp traditions. BIL was posting about it. Didn't seem bothered. We had the Redskins football team here in DC until VERY recently.

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Anonymous wrote:It's affecting me more than I thought it would. My 9 year old daughter got home from 3 weeks at camp this weekend and I cried myself to sleep last night thinking about if she was one of the girls at Mystic.

It doesn't change my mind about sending her to camp -- there's so much good that comes from it to forgo it for a statistically rare event (just like I keep sending my kid to school despite the very statistically rare event of school shootings) but its just so so awful.

I hope this is hyperbole. If not, it’s not a normal reaction.

Yes it is very much "normal" you must not have a kid. -DP

1000%. My very alpha husband teared up reading the latest last night too. When you have kids the same age, and it’s a small world with lots of friends of friends stories coming through, it is the normal human response.

DP, tearing up, or crying while you see the news story, or even crying for a few minutes later as you think about it, is very different than crying yourself to sleep.

WHO CARES? I cannot believe posters are fixated on their data point of one being about whether it's normal or not to cry.

There are little 8 year old girls, dead in mud somewhere. There are counselors, who just graduated from high school, either dead or waiting to be found. There are other people, who weren't at the camp also missing. Drowning is a terrible way to die. Get some perspective.

It’s not the crying. It’s the stupid hyperbole. The original PP did NOT actually cry herself TO SLEEP. She’s just an insufferable drama queen who makes everything about her.

And yet you've now spent multiple pages on a post about 27 dead 8 and 9 year olds arguing about the phrase "cry to sleep." Who has made this about themselves?

Can we just use reasonable and precise language please? Words have meaning. This isn’t a TikTok.

NP. I did not cry myself to sleep about this last night because I only started reading about the details this morning. I did cry myself to sleep after Uvalde. Literally, not figuratively.

Get off the meds and alcohol, your moods will be much more stable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, historically a good number of these oldest camps have not been particularly religious, including Mystic. I was surprised to see it described as that in the media but then I saw that they even have that word on their website and social media now. In decades past they have been "Christian" like TCU or SMU are "Christian".

There are other much more faith-based camps in the area that are funded by church organizations, etc.

True, but as a Jew, I wouldn't send my kid there....

Thank God!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have learned so much about camp culture this week from the news. Anyone care to explain the use of Native American tribe names and headdresses by these white, Christian kids? Tradition?

What is your point? That these girls deserved to drown in a flood because the camp they were sent to has unenlightened traditions?

My point was really a question - this cultural appropriation is still going on? I was surprised to learn about the camp culture.

The term cultural appropriation is some woke BS, it’s not real life. Anything related to such woke BS is no longer tolerated, cowboys and Indians for all!

[Anonymous]

Can we keep delusions about the evils of “cultural appropriation” out of a thread about a few dozen dead kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, historically a good number of these oldest camps have not been particularly religious, including Mystic. I was surprised to see it described as that in the media but then I saw that they even have that word on their website and social media now. In decades past they have been "Christian" like TCU or SMU are "Christian".

There are other much more faith-based camps in the area that are funded by church organizations, etc.

True, but as a Jew, I wouldn't send my kid there....

Thank God!

Wow. Blatant antisemitism. Nice.