Experience with Middlebury College?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard they're going through serious fiscal trouble at Middlebury.

Not sure about “serious.” They have a $14M budget deficit this year, of which $9M is from the Middlebury Institute in California. They also have a $1.4B endowment and sub 14% acceptance rate. I’m sure they’ll be just fine.

They have had huge budget deficits for 5 years running; it is not just Monterey but declining enrollment in all Midd schools abroad. They raised enrollment by over 10% due to budget issues. They increased the proportion of ED students dramatically two years ago. Because of budget issues. Duh.

More nonsense. They are raising enrollment by about 50-75 kids overall because they built a new dorm with…wait for it….50 more beds. Everything else you are spouting is nonsense except for MIIS having a nagging budget deficit.

They increased enrollment by 300 in 2021 to 2800, said every year they were going back down to 2500 — and that the enrollment increase was temporary — and then (after applications were in this year; info sessions for the class of 2029 said enrollment would return to 2500) only recently announced that the increase is permanent.

Here is the cite from institutional research itself:
https://www.middlebury.edu/assessment-institutional-research/institutional-data/middlebury-college

Your own link proves you wrong. Why do you keep doing this? They over enrolled by 300 during Covid and they have been dropping every year since. They recently announce that they are going from their historic 2550 to between 2600 and 2650 which coincides with the opening of their new dorm which holds 50 more students than the one it replaces.

You have been corrected before, why do you persist?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury’s okay, but there are much better LACs with more rigorous academics and student diversity.

Can you elaborate? How do you measure academic rigor?

They cannot because it is a fact free statement. Middlebury is often mentioned as having the heaviest workload of the NESCAC LACs. I don’t know how that equates to rigor but there are multiple mentions on Reddit and CC.

The student profile for Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, and Williams is basically identical as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middlebury’s okay, but there are much better LACs with more rigorous academics and student diversity.

Can you elaborate? How do you measure academic rigor?

They cannot because it is a fact free statement. Middlebury is often mentioned as having the heaviest workload of the NESCAC LACs. I don’t know how that equates to rigor but there are multiple mentions on Reddit and CC.

The student profile for Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, and Williams is basically identical as well.

You condemned a fact free statement with a fact free statement. What evidence is there if the “heaviest workload”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middlebury’s okay, but there are much better LACs with more rigorous academics and student diversity.

Can you elaborate? How do you measure academic rigor?

They cannot because it is a fact free statement. Middlebury is often mentioned as having the heaviest workload of the NESCAC LACs. I don’t know how that equates to rigor but there are multiple mentions on Reddit and CC.

The student profile for Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, and Williams is basically identical as well.

However, survey-based information in the Princeton Review includes Williams, Amherst, Colby and Bowdoin, but not Middlebury, in "Their Students Study the Most":

https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings/?rankings=students-study-most

[Anonymous]

Pretty bad financial issues going on there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The video of Middlebury College in March was depressing. The NE US is not a good place to be in Feb or March--especially if affected by SAD.

Geez it’s not upstate NY or Ohio. New England isn’t that bad. I went to college in New Hampshire and always thought it was so pretty.

What’s with the dish on upstate New York. Williamstown is essentially in Albany and is drop-dead gorgeous year round

New York State offers so many tourist regions and attractions as, perhaps, to be confusing to those from away. Upstate New York includes the Thousand Islands, the Adirondacks, the Finger Lakes, wine regions and long-distance cycling paths, for example.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The video of Middlebury College in March was depressing. The NE US is not a good place to be in Feb or March--especially if affected by SAD.

Geez it’s not upstate NY or Ohio. New England isn’t that bad. I went to college in New Hampshire and always thought it was so pretty.

What’s with the dish on upstate New York. Williamstown is essentially in Albany and is drop-dead gorgeous year round

Depends on how you define “upstate.” I’m a native NYCer and to me, everything north of Westchester is Upstate. But I do have a kid at Cornell and have come to learn that that is “Central NY,” in any event, Central NY is incredibly grim and gray all winter while VT gets a lot more sun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The video of Middlebury College in March was depressing. The NE US is not a good place to be in Feb or March--especially if affected by SAD.

Geez it’s not upstate NY or Ohio. New England isn’t that bad. I went to college in New Hampshire and always thought it was so pretty.

What’s with the dish on upstate New York. Williamstown is essentially in Albany and is drop-dead gorgeous year round

Depends on how you define “upstate.” I’m a native NYCer and to me, everything north of Westchester is Upstate. But I do have a kid at Cornell and have come to learn that that is “Central NY,” in any event, Central NY is incredibly grim and gray all winter while VT gets a lot more sun.

Vermont and NY State share a lot of similarities, but I think VT has more Instagram worthy spots per size and per capita. It's obviously more complex than that and NY is huge but I think that's what it comes down to. They both have pretty places, they both have tourism, they both have poverty.

Most of VT is probably sunnier than Syracuse. I doubt it's sunnier than NY State as a whole.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard they're going through serious fiscal trouble at Middlebury.

Stop it; I don’t know who you are but you are constantly pushing a very false narrative whenever there is a discussion about Middlebury.

Why do you care? It's not like Midd is hurting for applications from the DC area. Anyone who decides not to attend based on DCUM shouldn't go.

NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The video of Middlebury College in March was depressing. The NE US is not a good place to be in Feb or March--especially if affected by SAD.

Geez it’s not upstate NY or Ohio. New England isn’t that bad. I went to college in New Hampshire and always thought it was so pretty.

What’s with the dish on upstate New York. Williamstown is essentially in Albany and is drop-dead gorgeous year round

Depends on how you define “upstate.” I’m a native NYCer and to me, everything north of Westchester is Upstate. But I do have a kid at Cornell and have come to learn that that is “Central NY,” in any event, Central NY is incredibly grim and gray all winter while VT gets a lot more sun.

By available climate information, Middlebury experiences the fewest sunny days from among the NESCACs.

https://www.bestplaces.net/climate/city/vermont/middlebury

[Anonymous]

Middlebury has fallen in the rankings, but I think that was due to methodology changes and not anything to do with the school itself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The video of Middlebury College in March was depressing. The NE US is not a good place to be in Feb or March--especially if affected by SAD.

Geez it’s not upstate NY or Ohio. New England isn’t that bad. I went to college in New Hampshire and always thought it was so pretty.

What’s with the dish on upstate New York. Williamstown is essentially in Albany and is drop-dead gorgeous year round

Depends on how you define “upstate.” I’m a native NYCer and to me, everything north of Westchester is Upstate. But I do have a kid at Cornell and have come to learn that that is “Central NY,” in any event, Central NY is incredibly grim and gray all winter while VT gets a lot more sun.

Well, your definition is wrong. Everything north of Westchester is not upstate. That's still downstate to us.

Signed, an actual Upsate NY'er.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The video of Middlebury College in March was depressing. The NE US is not a good place to be in Feb or March--especially if affected by SAD.

Geez it’s not upstate NY or Ohio. New England isn’t that bad. I went to college in New Hampshire and always thought it was so pretty.

What’s with the dish on upstate New York. Williamstown is essentially in Albany and is drop-dead gorgeous year round

Depends on how you define “upstate.” I’m a native NYCer and to me, everything north of Westchester is Upstate. But I do have a kid at Cornell and have come to learn that that is “Central NY,” in any event, Central NY is incredibly grim and gray all winter while VT gets a lot more sun.

Well, your definition is wrong. Everything north of Westchester is not upstate. That's still downstate to us.

Signed, an actual Upsate NY'er.

And this matters to the thread matters because...?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middlebury’s okay, but there are much better LACs with more rigorous academics and student diversity.

Can you elaborate? How do you measure academic rigor?

They cannot because it is a fact free statement. Middlebury is often mentioned as having the heaviest workload of the NESCAC LACs. I don’t know how that equates to rigor but there are multiple mentions on Reddit and CC.

The student profile for Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, and Williams is basically identical as well.

You condemned a fact free statement with a fact free statement. What evidence is there if the “heaviest workload”

Poster was light but there was at lease anecdote "I don’t know how that equates to rigor but there are multiple mentions on Reddit and CC." vs absolutely nothing. You should learn to read and strive to do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've heard they're going through serious fiscal trouble at Middlebury.

Stop it; I don’t know who you are but you are constantly pushing a very false narrative whenever there is a discussion about Middlebury.

Why do you care? It's not like Midd is hurting for applications from the DC area. Anyone who decides not to attend based on DCUM shouldn't go.

NP

Very true, what DCUM is lacking is acceptances from Middlebury. DVM students are sparse at Middlebury.