We were Liars Series

[Anonymous]

In the book, it is rather obvious that the two brown people are not really a welcome presence. Tolerated more like it and they know it.
So I don't understand why they keep showing up year after year. The uncle brings his nephew. Uncle is merely one of the Sinclair women's boyfriend and she will never marry him because they all openly know it would jeopardize her inheritance.
Th nephew - doesn't his mother have any summer activities for that child ever? Why is so always packing him off to a place he knows isn't welcoming of him? As an Indian son, she would have been much more involved and protective of her child.
The immigrants in his story lack personal dignity and as an immigrant, their eager submissiveness to being an unwanted presence is just embarrassing. I guess white folks expect to see us groveling to be at their mighty summer island.
The most unbelievable part is that this guy who has no personal stake in the family would participate in the arson. I mean, what guest does that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the book, it is rather obvious that the two brown people are not really a welcome presence. Tolerated more like it and they know it.
So I don't understand why they keep showing up year after year. The uncle brings his nephew. Uncle is merely one of the Sinclair women's boyfriend and she will never marry him because they all openly know it would jeopardize her inheritance.
Th nephew - doesn't his mother have any summer activities for that child ever? Why is so always packing him off to a place he knows isn't welcoming of him? As an Indian son, she would have been much more involved and protective of her child.
The immigrants in his story lack personal dignity and as an immigrant, their eager submissiveness to being an unwanted presence is just embarrassing. I guess white folks expect to see us groveling to be at their mighty summer island.
The most unbelievable part is that this guy who has no personal stake in the family would participate in the arson. I mean, what guest does that?

In the show they made Gat’s mom really young and crude. She curses up a storm constantly in a way that was shocking as and acts like his buddy more than like a mom. And yes, it made zero sense Gat would participate. It’s pure insanity to most people to set fire to a house!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the book, it is rather obvious that the two brown people are not really a welcome presence. Tolerated more like it and they know it.
So I don't understand why they keep showing up year after year. The uncle brings his nephew. Uncle is merely one of the Sinclair women's boyfriend and she will never marry him because they all openly know it would jeopardize her inheritance.
Th nephew - doesn't his mother have any summer activities for that child ever? Why is so always packing him off to a place he knows isn't welcoming of him? As an Indian son, she would have been much more involved and protective of her child.
The immigrants in his story lack personal dignity and as an immigrant, their eager submissiveness to being an unwanted presence is just embarrassing. I guess white folks expect to see us groveling to be at their mighty summer island.
The most unbelievable part is that this guy who has no personal stake in the family would participate in the arson. I mean, what guest does that?

In the show they made Gat’s mom really young and crude. She curses up a storm constantly in a way that was shocking as and acts like his buddy more than like a mom. And yes, it made zero sense Gat would participate. It’s pure insanity to most people to set fire to a house!!!

The writers know nothing about being an Indian immigrant. The have painted him as a lower class child of a single mother American style although he is presented like an Indian Brahmin caste.
I am not even Indian and I know about their caste system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the book, it is rather obvious that the two brown people are not really a welcome presence. Tolerated more like it and they know it.
So I don't understand why they keep showing up year after year. The uncle brings his nephew. Uncle is merely one of the Sinclair women's boyfriend and she will never marry him because they all openly know it would jeopardize her inheritance.
Th nephew - doesn't his mother have any summer activities for that child ever? Why is so always packing him off to a place he knows isn't welcoming of him? As an Indian son, she would have been much more involved and protective of her child.
The immigrants in his story lack personal dignity and as an immigrant, their eager submissiveness to being an unwanted presence is just embarrassing. I guess white folks expect to see us groveling to be at their mighty summer island.
The most unbelievable part is that this guy who has no personal stake in the family would participate in the arson. I mean, what guest does that?

In the show they made Gat’s mom really young and crude. She curses up a storm constantly in a way that was shocking as and acts like his buddy more than like a mom. And yes, it made zero sense Gat would participate. It’s pure insanity to most people to set fire to a house!!!

The writers know nothing about being an Indian immigrant. The have painted him as a lower class child of a single mother American style although he is presented like an Indian Brahmin caste.
I am not even Indian and I know about their caste system.

What? How on earth did you get that? I am Indian Brahmin and didnt think that at all. I haven’t read the book so I figured they were not Indian in the book, given their names (I know there are Indian Christians so could have been that as well).

I personally appreciated that the mom was not a stereotypical Indian mom. And it’s totally possible that the mom wasn’t well off, given that her husband died. And she clearly grew up in the US. I know plenty of Indian American women and men who curse plenty. It’s true that they might not in this atmosphere, but as I recall, she was talking to her son not the Sinclairs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I watched this bc I thought there would be a worthy plot twist.

The dogs??? Are you kidding me??

There is a much bigger twist but after the dogs I did not even care.

+ 100

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the book, it is rather obvious that the two brown people are not really a welcome presence. Tolerated more like it and they know it.
So I don't understand why they keep showing up year after year. The uncle brings his nephew. Uncle is merely one of the Sinclair women's boyfriend and she will never marry him because they all openly know it would jeopardize her inheritance.
Th nephew - doesn't his mother have any summer activities for that child ever? Why is so always packing him off to a place he knows isn't welcoming of him? As an Indian son, she would have been much more involved and protective of her child.
The immigrants in his story lack personal dignity and as an immigrant, their eager submissiveness to being an unwanted presence is just embarrassing. I guess white folks expect to see us groveling to be at their mighty summer island.
The most unbelievable part is that this guy who has no personal stake in the family would participate in the arson. I mean, what guest does that?

In the show they made Gat’s mom really young and crude. She curses up a storm constantly in a way that was shocking as and acts like his buddy more than like a mom. And yes, it made zero sense Gat would participate. It’s pure insanity to most people to set fire to a house!!!

The writers know nothing about being an Indian immigrant. The have painted him as a lower class child of a single mother American style although he is presented like an Indian Brahmin caste.
I am not even Indian and I know about their caste system.

What? How on earth did you get that? I am Indian Brahmin and didnt think that at all. I haven’t read the book so I figured they were not Indian in the book, given their names (I know there are Indian Christians so could have been that as well).

I personally appreciated that the mom was not a stereotypical Indian mom. And it’s totally possible that the mom wasn’t well off, given that her husband died. And she clearly grew up in the US. I know plenty of Indian American women and men who curse plenty. It’s true that they might not in this atmosphere, but as I recall, she was talking to her son not the Sinclairs.

I think the fact her kid had been going there for so long and she never had was weird. Why would her near sil not invite her, especially as a widow of an only child? Rich people host big parties constantly in the summer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the book, it is rather obvious that the two brown people are not really a welcome presence. Tolerated more like it and they know it.
So I don't understand why they keep showing up year after year. The uncle brings his nephew. Uncle is merely one of the Sinclair women's boyfriend and she will never marry him because they all openly know it would jeopardize her inheritance.
Th nephew - doesn't his mother have any summer activities for that child ever? Why is so always packing him off to a place he knows isn't welcoming of him? As an Indian son, she would have been much more involved and protective of her child.
The immigrants in his story lack personal dignity and as an immigrant, their eager submissiveness to being an unwanted presence is just embarrassing. I guess white folks expect to see us groveling to be at their mighty summer island.
The most unbelievable part is that this guy who has no personal stake in the family would participate in the arson. I mean, what guest does that?

In the show they made Gat’s mom really young and crude. She curses up a storm constantly in a way that was shocking as and acts like his buddy more than like a mom. And yes, it made zero sense Gat would participate. It’s pure insanity to most people to set fire to a house!!!

The writers know nothing about being an Indian immigrant. The have painted him as a lower class child of a single mother American style although he is presented like an Indian Brahmin caste.
I am not even Indian and I know about their caste system.

What? How on earth did you get that? I am Indian Brahmin and didnt think that at all. I haven’t read the book so I figured they were not Indian in the book, given their names (I know there are Indian Christians so could have been that as well).

I personally appreciated that the mom was not a stereotypical Indian mom. And it’s totally possible that the mom wasn’t well off, given that her husband died. And she clearly grew up in the US. I know plenty of Indian American women and men who curse plenty. It’s true that they might not in this atmosphere, but as I recall, she was talking to her son not the Sinclairs.

I think the fact her kid had been going there for so long and she never had was weird. Why would her near sil not invite her, especially as a widow of an only child? Rich people host big parties constantly in the summer.

Pretty sure Carrie said she had been invited in the past and never had any interest. I don't think it's odd at all that Gat was originally brought up as a friend for Johnny. William would have been an infant at the time, and rich kids often bring a friend on vacation. Especially if they are only children, or have a big sibling age gap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I read the book years ago and saw the twist coming from a mile away (perhaps because it was the same twist as a very popular movie I'd recently watched). Hoping to watch the series soon and see whether/how it is foreshadowed, because there was a line early on in the book where I was like "yep, they're [redacted]."

They foreshadow it pretty clearly in the show an episode before with the mention of that film.

What film?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the book years ago and saw the twist coming from a mile away (perhaps because it was the same twist as a very popular movie I'd recently watched). Hoping to watch the series soon and see whether/how it is foreshadowed, because there was a line early on in the book where I was like "yep, they're [redacted]."

They foreshadow it pretty clearly in the show an episode before with the mention of that film.

What film?

That will immediately spoil the twist for people looking to avoid spoilers...

[Anonymous]

I'm the PP who said I guessed the twist in the book because I'd recently watched the movie with the same twist. I didn't want to name the movie because it's an instant spoiler (even if you haven't seen the movie you've no doubt heard of it and its ending).

That is wild if the series actually mentions this film by name. The book didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the book, it is rather obvious that the two brown people are not really a welcome presence. Tolerated more like it and they know it.
So I don't understand why they keep showing up year after year. The uncle brings his nephew. Uncle is merely one of the Sinclair women's boyfriend and she will never marry him because they all openly know it would jeopardize her inheritance.
Th nephew - doesn't his mother have any summer activities for that child ever? Why is so always packing him off to a place he knows isn't welcoming of him? As an Indian son, she would have been much more involved and protective of her child.
The immigrants in his story lack personal dignity and as an immigrant, their eager submissiveness to being an unwanted presence is just embarrassing. I guess white folks expect to see us groveling to be at their mighty summer island.
The most unbelievable part is that this guy who has no personal stake in the family would participate in the arson. I mean, what guest does that?

In the show they made Gat’s mom really young and crude. She curses up a storm constantly in a way that was shocking as and acts like his buddy more than like a mom. And yes, it made zero sense Gat would participate. It’s pure insanity to most people to set fire to a house!!!

The writers know nothing about being an Indian immigrant. The have painted him as a lower class child of a single mother American style although he is presented like an Indian Brahmin caste.
I am not even Indian and I know about their caste system.

What? How on earth did you get that? I am Indian Brahmin and didnt think that at all. I haven’t read the book so I figured they were not Indian in the book, given their names (I know there are Indian Christians so could have been that as well).

I personally appreciated that the mom was not a stereotypical Indian mom. And it’s totally possible that the mom wasn’t well off, given that her husband died. And she clearly grew up in the US. I know plenty of Indian American women and men who curse plenty. It’s true that they might not in this atmosphere, but as I recall, she was talking to her son not the Sinclairs.

You need to read the book. He is much more self aware of his circumstances and the socioeconomic disparity which brings to question his continuing visits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the book, it is rather obvious that the two brown people are not really a welcome presence. Tolerated more like it and they know it.
So I don't understand why they keep showing up year after year. The uncle brings his nephew. Uncle is merely one of the Sinclair women's boyfriend and she will never marry him because they all openly know it would jeopardize her inheritance.
Th nephew - doesn't his mother have any summer activities for that child ever? Why is so always packing him off to a place he knows isn't welcoming of him? As an Indian son, she would have been much more involved and protective of her child.
The immigrants in his story lack personal dignity and as an immigrant, their eager submissiveness to being an unwanted presence is just embarrassing. I guess white folks expect to see us groveling to be at their mighty summer island.
The most unbelievable part is that this guy who has no personal stake in the family would participate in the arson. I mean, what guest does that?

In the show they made Gat’s mom really young and crude. She curses up a storm constantly in a way that was shocking as and acts like his buddy more than like a mom. And yes, it made zero sense Gat would participate. It’s pure insanity to most people to set fire to a house!!!

The writers know nothing about being an Indian immigrant. The have painted him as a lower class child of a single mother American style although he is presented like an Indian Brahmin caste.
I am not even Indian and I know about their caste system.

What? How on earth did you get that? I am Indian Brahmin and didnt think that at all. I haven’t read the book so I figured they were not Indian in the book, given their names (I know there are Indian Christians so could have been that as well).

I personally appreciated that the mom was not a stereotypical Indian mom. And it’s totally possible that the mom wasn’t well off, given that her husband died. And she clearly grew up in the US. I know plenty of Indian American women and men who curse plenty. It’s true that they might not in this atmosphere, but as I recall, she was talking to her son not the Sinclairs.

You need to read the book. He is much more self aware of his circumstances and the socioeconomic disparity which brings to question his continuing visits.

Ok, but this discussion is about the tv series on Netflix, where that is not clear at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the book, it is rather obvious that the two brown people are not really a welcome presence. Tolerated more like it and they know it.
So I don't understand why they keep showing up year after year. The uncle brings his nephew. Uncle is merely one of the Sinclair women's boyfriend and she will never marry him because they all openly know it would jeopardize her inheritance.
Th nephew - doesn't his mother have any summer activities for that child ever? Why is so always packing him off to a place he knows isn't welcoming of him? As an Indian son, she would have been much more involved and protective of her child.
The immigrants in his story lack personal dignity and as an immigrant, their eager submissiveness to being an unwanted presence is just embarrassing. I guess white folks expect to see us groveling to be at their mighty summer island.
The most unbelievable part is that this guy who has no personal stake in the family would participate in the arson. I mean, what guest does that?

In the show they made Gat’s mom really young and crude. She curses up a storm constantly in a way that was shocking as and acts like his buddy more than like a mom. And yes, it made zero sense Gat would participate. It’s pure insanity to most people to set fire to a house!!!

The writers know nothing about being an Indian immigrant. The have painted him as a lower class child of a single mother American style although he is presented like an Indian Brahmin caste.
I am not even Indian and I know about their caste system.

What? How on earth did you get that? I am Indian Brahmin and didnt think that at all. I haven’t read the book so I figured they were not Indian in the book, given their names (I know there are Indian Christians so could have been that as well).

I personally appreciated that the mom was not a stereotypical Indian mom. And it’s totally possible that the mom wasn’t well off, given that her husband died. And she clearly grew up in the US. I know plenty of Indian American women and men who curse plenty. It’s true that they might not in this atmosphere, but as I recall, she was talking to her son not the Sinclairs.

You need to read the book. He is much more self aware of his circumstances and the socioeconomic disparity which brings to question his continuing visits.

Ok, but this discussion is about the tv series on Netflix, where that is not clear at all.

It's clear in the series that the grandfather brushes aside serious discussion of the uncle wanting to marry the grandfather's daughter. And other little things like that which the brown skinned characters can't NOT notice.
The Sinclairs, like most of American society, are polite. They are not in your face about their superiority complex but ignorance and lack of ANY interest in the lives of these brown characters speaks to the invisible divide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the book, it is rather obvious that the two brown people are not really a welcome presence. Tolerated more like it and they know it.
So I don't understand why they keep showing up year after year. The uncle brings his nephew. Uncle is merely one of the Sinclair women's boyfriend and she will never marry him because they all openly know it would jeopardize her inheritance.
Th nephew - doesn't his mother have any summer activities for that child ever? Why is so always packing him off to a place he knows isn't welcoming of him? As an Indian son, she would have been much more involved and protective of her child.
The immigrants in his story lack personal dignity and as an immigrant, their eager submissiveness to being an unwanted presence is just embarrassing. I guess white folks expect to see us groveling to be at their mighty summer island.
The most unbelievable part is that this guy who has no personal stake in the family would participate in the arson. I mean, what guest does that?

In the show they made Gat’s mom really young and crude. She curses up a storm constantly in a way that was shocking as and acts like his buddy more than like a mom. And yes, it made zero sense Gat would participate. It’s pure insanity to most people to set fire to a house!!!

The writers know nothing about being an Indian immigrant. The have painted him as a lower class child of a single mother American style although he is presented like an Indian Brahmin caste.
I am not even Indian and I know about their caste system.

What? How on earth did you get that? I am Indian Brahmin and didnt think that at all. I haven’t read the book so I figured they were not Indian in the book, given their names (I know there are Indian Christians so could have been that as well).

I personally appreciated that the mom was not a stereotypical Indian mom. And it’s totally possible that the mom wasn’t well off, given that her husband died. And she clearly grew up in the US. I know plenty of Indian American women and men who curse plenty. It’s true that they might not in this atmosphere, but as I recall, she was talking to her son not the Sinclairs.

You need to read the book. He is much more self aware of his circumstances and the socioeconomic disparity which brings to question his continuing visits.

Ok, but this discussion is about the tv series on Netflix, where that is not clear at all.

It's clear in the series that the grandfather brushes aside serious discussion of the uncle wanting to marry the grandfather's daughter. And other little things like that which the brown skinned characters can't NOT notice.
The Sinclairs, like most of American society, are polite. They are not in your face about their superiority complex but ignorance and lack of ANY interest in the lives of these brown characters speaks to the invisible divide.

Well, duh. No one was disagreeing with that. You randomly brought caste into it, and that was not included or implied in the show.

[Anonymous]

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