Nothing doubtful. simple fact. You might not like it. But it is true… |
I'm the poster you quoted...sorry, I always mix up Early Action and Early Decision. He applied Early Decision and as such the school had no incentive to provide any merit aid. |
| My DD is a junior in both Maxwell and Newhouse. She applied RD and was offered a presidential scholarship through Maxwell, which is 50% off tuition, so she took it. I don’t love the management of the school and I think the town is the dumpiest dump but I have been impressed with the education. She’s very excited and engaged in the work, has developed good relationships with profs and landed a great internship this summer. The school is very pre professional and I think that’s great. The Maxwell profs really emphasize teaching skills they will use in the real world. |
Great post ! |
It's got to be the cost. It's got great name recognition, so I'm sure they have strong numbers of applications, but that price tag is steep. Or maybe kids would have said yes if they'd gotten into Newhouse or Maxwell, but if they get shunted to a different major, they decide to go elsewhere. |
I could care less, I'm from CA. But, I do live in the valley and see where kids from the top schools are going. Syracuse gets more than any of those schools, easily. Look at posts from feeder schools in the east. Again, Syracuse gets more than any of those schools, period. Also, Syracuse has decent representation among people here in the valley. The other schools, not so much. So, you can keep deluding yourself but it's not going to change reality. |
| My DD is going and always said she loved it because it’s like an SEC school without misogyny. |
Ha, true! '90s alum here. It definitely has the big fun sports factor. I agree that it's liberal and diverse enough that misogyny is definitely not part of the culture. |
I think you both can be right here. Schools like geographic diversity so maybe Syracuse accepted a lower stats southern girl because of this. Meanwhile, if you look at mid Atlantic and northern private schools like my DD attends, Syracuse is absolutely a harder admit (and more popular) than SMU and TCU. We send a lot of kids to Tulane and none to Baylor - kids do not apply there and I never see it on any of the other private school matriculation pages (which I have followed closely over the years). |
Except you are wrong. More students attend SMU who are from California than Syracuse. More than 1,000 students from California attend SMU. Please get your facts correct. |
| Son applied there. I don't think there is anything outstanding about it but good school - Syracuse as a city is dumpy but the campus is really nice so not a big deal. They came up pretty short on Merit aid compared to somewhat similar schools. |
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I graduated from Syracuse in the early 2000s and loved my experience as a Public Policy (Maxwell) and Poli Sci (A&S) undergrad. Maxwell is the top public affairs school in the country and offers a competitive semester in DC program that set me up for my now 20+ year career here, a job I found out about through an alumni connection...the alumni network is incredibly strong. Friends who graduated from Newhouse have amazing jobs in broadcasting and in the entertainment industry. The city itself isn't great, but the campus is beautiful, and students rarely ventured off campus in my time there.
The weather and cost are really the biggest drawbacks. I grew up in upstate NY so the weather didn't phase me, but after living in VA for almost 25 years, I don't know how my kids would do somewhere that cold and grey. I'd love my kids to have the same college experience I had, but someplace a bit warmer and sunnier. |
Agree with much of what you say but Duke's undergrad public policy program is better than Maxwell's, and there are some others that I would argue are also better. One can nitpick and say it isn't exactly the same thing but it basically is. Duke is a major you choose rather than applying into the program. Maxwell is great and I'm not knocking it. But Duke is better and you have a Duke degree vs. a Syracuse degree. Plus better weather and basketball! |
| I think the cost is an issue. We won't consider it because of it. A friend's daughter got it and got merit after 5/1. Still would have more than an OOS public she is attending. |
I am not and it is easy to look up if you do just a bit of work. Undergrads from CA at SMU average about 870 (straight from SMU) and undergrads at Syracuse from CA are about 1,100 kids (straight from SU). It wasn’t hard to find. All of these schools are good and if I had a kid who wanted to work in Dallas I would suggest SMU. Pretty much everywhere else Syracuse is the better bet. |