New Budget Cutting AART positions

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AAP should be gone everywhere including level 4 programs. I’m glad it’s happening and my kid qualified for AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't find their position to be value add. I am fine with this cut.

So who is putting together your kid's packet?

That doesn't require a full-time person. Plus, it is usually a committee of people doing the packets.

There is not a committee of people putting together the packets. At our school the AART puts the packets together, teaches part time AAP and is worth her weight in gold. This is a short sighted move and will have such a negative impact on students.

AAP is one of the last remaining programs offered by FCPS that keeps upper middle class families in public schools. What idiot came up with the idea to attack AAP and chip away at its effectiveness?

This is hilarious. No, it's not. And you're basically admitting this is a class system. We're segregating the rich kids into the own classes? WTF? I guess my family isn't wealthy enough.

it definitely is. If it weren't for AAP, my kids would be in another county or private. Sorry that hurts your feelings but the tax base is what funds FCPS.

I'm not the person you're responding to, but one of my kids is in AAP and the other is not. They're both getting an excellent education. I disagree with everyone who thinks that AAP is the only education worth getting in FCPS. My non-AAP child is getting a fabulous education.

wow, what school?

We are in the Oakton pyramid.

Well that's why. Not everyone lives in the richest parts of the country. Of course your kids' experiences will be great regardless of AAP. Step out of your bubble.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't find their position to be value add. I am fine with this cut.

So who is putting together your kid's packet?

That doesn't require a full-time person. Plus, it is usually a committee of people doing the packets.

There is not a committee of people putting together the packets. At our school the AART puts the packets together, teaches part time AAP and is worth her weight in gold. This is a short sighted move and will have such a negative impact on students.

AAP is one of the last remaining programs offered by FCPS that keeps upper middle class families in public schools. What idiot came up with the idea to attack AAP and chip away at its effectiveness?

Tell me what your AART does all day for the entire school year that warrants a full-time position, PLEASE.

If you read the post, you'd know. She teaches level 3 or what is now called part time AAP.

All day, 5 days a week?

Yes. She teaches kids across multiple grades multiple times a week on a set schedule. She is able to put together strong AAP packages because she knows students academic strengths well. I have more than one child that went through AAP and have interacted with her for years.

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Anonymous wrote:Our local AAP center school had an absolutely amazing AART! She challenged the kids wonderfully even in Grade 2 and patiently sat with us and explained the process to us well. The AAP package the school put together was top notch too… Some AARTs are worth it.. The doing away with AART and then the MS after school program will slowly chip away at the FCPS brand.

They are not removing AARTs. Stop spreading lies. They are removing full-time AARTs. A lot of schools have part-time AARTs and do just fine, as a PP described above, they have a great part-time AART. It doesn't need to be a full-time position. Tell me what your AART does all day that warrants a full-time position, PLEASE.

Name five schools that have part-time AARTs today.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't find their position to be value add. I am fine with this cut.

So who is putting together your kid's packet?

That doesn't require a full-time person. Plus, it is usually a committee of people doing the packets.

There is not a committee of people putting together the packets. At our school the AART puts the packets together, teaches part time AAP and is worth her weight in gold. This is a short sighted move and will have such a negative impact on students.

AAP is one of the last remaining programs offered by FCPS that keeps upper middle class families in public schools. What idiot came up with the idea to attack AAP and chip away at its effectiveness?

Tell me what your AART does all day for the entire school year that warrants a full-time position, PLEASE.

If you read the post, you'd know. She teaches level 3 or what is now called part time AAP.

All day, 5 days a week?

Yes. She teaches kids across multiple grades multiple times a week on a set schedule. She is able to put together strong AAP packages because she knows students academic strengths well. I have more than one child that went through AAP and have interacted with her for years.

LOL, look it's an AART worried about her job posting!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't find their position to be value add. I am fine with this cut.

So who is putting together your kid's packet?

That doesn't require a full-time person. Plus, it is usually a committee of people doing the packets.

There is not a committee of people putting together the packets. At our school the AART puts the packets together, teaches part time AAP and is worth her weight in gold. This is a short sighted move and will have such a negative impact on students.

AAP is one of the last remaining programs offered by FCPS that keeps upper middle class families in public schools. What idiot came up with the idea to attack AAP and chip away at its effectiveness?

This is hilarious. No, it's not. And you're basically admitting this is a class system. We're segregating the rich kids into the own classes? WTF? I guess my family isn't wealthy enough.

it definitely is. If it weren't for AAP, my kids would be in another county or private. Sorry that hurts your feelings but the tax base is what funds FCPS.

I'm not the person you're responding to, but one of my kids is in AAP and the other is not. They're both getting an excellent education. I disagree with everyone who thinks that AAP is the only education worth getting in FCPS. My non-AAP child is getting a fabulous education.

wow, what school?

We are in the Oakton pyramid.

Well that's why. Not everyone lives in the richest parts of the country. Of course your kids' experiences will be great regardless of AAP. Step out of your bubble.

That goes both ways. So many parents on here complain about how much FCPS sucks because they won't step out of their shitty school bubble. You CHOSE to live where you live, why didn't you research the schools then? We spent a lot of time looking for a house that we could afford where the schools have great reputations - we sacrificed commute for good schools and a bigger house. Different people have different priorities - I guess ours was a good education for our children and yours was parental convenience.

[Anonymous]

READ THE POST - NOBODY IS GETTING RID OF AAP. They're just getting rid of 1/2 of a position of someone who doesn't actually do that job all day anyway. I'm glad they're seeing that this is a waste of money and they could spending that 1/2 a person's salary on something like special education that we desperately need more of in schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't find their position to be value add. I am fine with this cut.

So who is putting together your kid's packet?

That doesn't require a full-time person. Plus, it is usually a committee of people doing the packets.

There is not a committee of people putting together the packets. At our school the AART puts the packets together, teaches part time AAP and is worth her weight in gold. This is a short sighted move and will have such a negative impact on students.

AAP is one of the last remaining programs offered by FCPS that keeps upper middle class families in public schools. What idiot came up with the idea to attack AAP and chip away at its effectiveness?

This is hilarious. No, it's not. And you're basically admitting this is a class system. We're segregating the rich kids into the own classes? WTF? I guess my family isn't wealthy enough.

it definitely is. If it weren't for AAP, my kids would be in another county or private. Sorry that hurts your feelings but the tax base is what funds FCPS.

I'm not the person you're responding to, but one of my kids is in AAP and the other is not. They're both getting an excellent education. I disagree with everyone who thinks that AAP is the only education worth getting in FCPS. My non-AAP child is getting a fabulous education.

wow, what school?

We are in the Oakton pyramid.

I'm also in the Oakton pyramid with one kid in AAP and one not. My AAP kid has consistently gotten better teachers and a better classroom environment over the non-AAP kid. The classroom discipline and distraction problems alone are very evident. Additionally, a new pupil has been added to the non-AAP kid's class every quarter this year who barely speak English, taking away the teacher's time and attention further.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP should be gone everywhere including level 4 programs. I’m glad it’s happening and my kid qualified for AAP.

So you agree with Seattle and NYC:

https://reason.com/2024/04/04/seattle-is-getting-rid-of-gifted-schools-in-a-bid-to-increase-equity/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:READ THE POST - NOBODY IS GETTING RID OF AAP. They're just getting rid of 1/2 of a position of someone who doesn't actually do that job all day anyway. I'm glad they're seeing that this is a waste of money and they could spending that 1/2 a person's salary on something like special education that we desperately need more of in schools.

Oh, but wait. That’s getting cut as well. The special education dept chair at the elementary schools is also being cut in half. Special education teachers are the least qualified in any school and the most in demand. All you have to do is have a bachelor’s degree and enroll in a sped course. Voila! You’re a sped teacher! Cutting the dept chair position in half means there’s no support, coaching, mentoring and case managing for these inexperienced teachers. Expect more lawsuits as there’s less oversight and support for teachers who need it the most.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with PP. Additionally, there are a lot of elementary schools that are in their first few years of implementing local level IV. I know our AART is instrumental in helping teachers as they learn. Cutting the AART to half time will have a big impact.

Same. We just chose LLIV for our third grader and our school is brand new to AAP. I wanted to be a part of making our local school stronger and helping grow the program by staying local. They purposefully announced this budget change right after AAP decisions were due.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with PP. Additionally, there are a lot of elementary schools that are in their first few years of implementing local level IV. I know our AART is instrumental in helping teachers as they learn. Cutting the AART to half time will have a big impact.

Same. We just chose LLIV for our third grader and our school is brand new to AAP. I wanted to be a part of making our local school stronger and helping grow the program by staying local. They purposefully announced this budget change right after AAP decisions were due.

Contact your school board member and the at large members today! Let them know you don’t like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with PP. Additionally, there are a lot of elementary schools that are in their first few years of implementing local level IV. I know our AART is instrumental in helping teachers as they learn. Cutting the AART to half time will have a big impact.

Same. We just chose LLIV for our third grader and our school is brand new to AAP. I wanted to be a part of making our local school stronger and helping grow the program by staying local. They purposefully announced this budget change right after AAP decisions were due.

Contact your school board member and the at large members today! Let them know you don’t like this.

The school board members do not care. They seriously don’t. They are in political lock-step with SB Chair Karl Frisch, who does not even have kids; Frisch is only using the SB as a launching pad for higher office.

Last election, the majority of them did not even run for reelection.

The FCPS school board doesn’t care about your kids (especially not your AAP kids).

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with PP. Additionally, there are a lot of elementary schools that are in their first few years of implementing local level IV. I know our AART is instrumental in helping teachers as they learn. Cutting the AART to half time will have a big impact.

Same. We just chose LLIV for our third grader and our school is brand new to AAP. I wanted to be a part of making our local school stronger and helping grow the program by staying local. They purposefully announced this budget change right after AAP decisions were due.

Contact your school board member and the at large members today! Let them know you don’t like this.

The school board members do not care. They seriously don’t. They are in political lock-step with SB Chair Karl Frisch, who does not even have kids; Frisch is only using the SB as a launching pad for higher office.

Last election, the majority of them did not even run for reelection.

The FCPS school board doesn’t care about your kids (especially not your AAP kids).

Such a whiny post. So you would rather just complain on DCUM than advocate? Write the school board, testify at the May 13 public hearing. Don’t just whine on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:AAP should be gone everywhere including level 4 programs. I’m glad it’s happening and my kid qualified for AAP.

So you agree with Seattle and NYC:

https://reason.com/2024/04/04/seattle-is-getting-rid-of-gifted-schools-in-a-bid-to-increase-equity/

Shut up about equity, PP. We all know that the vast majority of children in AAP are neither advanced, nor gifted. They just have ambitious parents.