Worth taking the UPenn shot?

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Not that it remotely matters, but 1390 is in the 94%. Guess that used to be pretty good in the past. Lol

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it remotely matters, but 1390 is in the 94%. Guess that used to be pretty good in the past. Lol

It was good in 1996 but we are way past that, keep up Edna

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Anonymous wrote:Not that it remotely matters, but 1390 is in the 94%. Guess that used to be pretty good in the past. Lol

For 2024, one online source says 92nd one says 93rd%ile. Maybe another says 94th. It does not matter because Penn and other top schools have not had the 92nd or 94th%ile in the middle 50percent of students since before 2010.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you be NMSF with only 1390 sat? Is that a typo?

Not a typo. Nmf is based on psat, not sat

I also have a junior with a psat index of 223 (so likely to be nmsf in VA) who, so far, only has a 1380 on the SAT. Planning on taking it again, but it is what it is.

Nice to meet another family in the same boat. Here’s to both our kids increasing their SAT score. Where is your child planning to apply if you don’t mind me asking? I feel that 1390 score is so on the edge at most places. She wants to apply to UMD so trying to decide if we should submit. Definitely not to UVA. Interestingly, when I look back at average SAT scores for U Penn in 2019 (pre-Covid), the 50% range started at 1420 versus 1500 today. Definitely some test score inflation thanks to test optional. Not saying that the school will ever go back to those lower numbers, but an interesting data point.

The 2019-20 CDS lists 1450-1560 as the middle 50% for UPenn, very similar to 3 ivies and most of the T10. 3 other ivies (B/D/Cornell)were lower and one never released CDS then (Columbia, assumed to be lowest of all ivies since they never released it when it was test required).
CDS before that year has a significant amount of testers who took the prior SAT structure which had 99th %ile as 1490, such that one cannot compare the scores from the CDS pre-2019-20 to now.
The LAST Test required CDS is the the 2020-2021 (freshman on campus fall 2020 were admitted under test required and had their testing done by Dec 1st 2019, precovid): 1460-1570, also in line with HYP and higher than Brown/Dartmouth/Cornell(1420-1440 to 1560).
In other words based on percentiles when Penn and HYP required tests that last cycles before TO, about 75% of the matriculated students at these schools had SAT scores 98-99th %ile, with lower ivies B/D/Cornell having 75% of students at or above the 96th%ile. It is not much different now (1510 is the 98th%ile now!) and will not be too different when it is all test required again.

Super helpful information, thanks. It is possible percentiles have shifted downward since the digital SAT - scoring seems more punitive and inconsistent.