Really worried about my college senior graduating into this environment

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of jobs outside of DC!!


There is always a bull market somewhere, and right now in DC, Defense-Tech is super hot. Just in the last week I have seen five start-ups in the DC area raise $250MM+ (total) in this sector. You need AI/ML/Computer Vision skills, as well as engineering/robotics skills.


It requires security clearances. I am in the DoD AI/ML/VHDL and we have ten openings for skills like this; however, it also requires TS clearance.


Are you saying they won't hire you if you don't have clearance? I assume most US-born engineers would not have any problem getting clearance.


It takes maybe 12 months between the person filing the SF-86 and adjudication, for simple cases. In between for TS there is field investigation work and other processes.

If a company has unclassified work, the person can work on that while waiting. If the company only has TS work, they often cannot afford to pay the person to twiddle their thumbs while waiting.
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World is your oyster. If things aren't working out locally, look overseas. Now Americans can empathize with why people from other countries feel so desperate and are willing to immigrate wherever the jobs are?

I just hope that we don't end up with brain drain like struggling countries does, since first immigrant ship landed at American shores, our real strength has been in keeping home grown brain power from leaving and attracting foreign brainpower to leave their homes to join us.
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Most importantly, Americans do need to hold elected and hired officials to keep our economy stable so our kids don't have to look elsewhere for jobs.
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*hold accountable
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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, Americans do need to hold elected and hired officials to keep our economy stable so our kids don't have to look elsewhere for jobs.


It’s better if they look elsewhere for jobs. Ideally they’d get EU citizenship and settle there. The US is not the place to be if they want to raise a family some day.
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My DD took 3 years to find a career type job. In the meantime she took a job in the insurance industry just to have something on a resume.
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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, Americans do need to hold elected and hired officials to keep our economy stable so our kids don't have to look elsewhere for jobs.


It’s better if they look elsewhere for jobs. Ideally they’d get EU citizenship and settle there. The US is not the place to be if they want to raise a family some day.


+1. Europe is actively looking to attract smart Americans right now, knowing that they are no longer wanted in the US. This is actually the ideal time to graduate to take advantage of this.
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Anonymous wrote:and finding a job.

That's all. Just needed to say it out loud. Thanks for listening.


Don’t worry

Our gov has been expanding H1B and opt for 35 years , taking Jobs from our children to give to cheap foreign labor



Here's a clue: Many kids in the US do not want the H1B jobs held by the "foreigners" you use a scapegoat for your grievances.

A friend of mine moved to the US, first, on a J1 student visa and later held a job with H1B visa. He has an MD/PhD and made about 30k at his first job. With H1B he made around 45k. He is likely now making a middle class salary for this area and it only took 25 years to make that happen.

I assure you that people in this country with MD/PhDs are not clamoring for these jobs. But, hey, don't worry. These jobs (medical research) are being eliminated now anyway. GL to you when your or someone you love needs cancer, diabetes treatments, etc.


Well here’s the problem those jobs do not require a MD/PHD. Universities are pumping out a lot of STEM students, med school is extremely difficult to get into and those research jobs are in demand now. The same thing is happening in tech. It used to be that US IT candidates in the DMV only had MS centric skills, no C+, Python, JAVA or whatever. We hired H1Bs for programming, integration and web positions but now US schools are pumping out tons of potential employees with current skills.


+1 a foreign trained md/phd is not the same as in the us. the foreign md is a 3-year bachelor's and the overseas phd is more like our master's in science with a thesis.


You are so wrong you are funny.

I do not know which country rewards a 3 year country with a bachelor. My brother went to med school in France and it was extremely competitive and took him seven years to get the MD and five years to specialize ! He is a psychiatrist.
A PhD would take another additional three years at the very least!

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I meant “which country would reward a 3 year Bachelor with an MD!”
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We moved here to give our kids more opportunities so it would be sad if they had to move elsewhere for those opportunities and we get stuck here alone as this is home and birth country feels foreign after a lifetime away.
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Anonymous wrote:If nothing works out then grad school or peace corps or teaching English overseas.


Peace Corps has cut backs at the moment.


Peace Corps is also extremely selective and prefers experienced applicants
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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, Americans do need to hold elected and hired officials to keep our economy stable so our kids don't have to look elsewhere for jobs.


It’s better if they look elsewhere for jobs. Ideally they’d get EU citizenship and settle there. The US is not the place to be if they want to raise a family some day.


+1. Europe is actively looking to attract smart Americans right now, knowing that they are no longer wanted in the US. This is actually the ideal time to graduate to take advantage of this.


Why would they hire and sponsor a recent American grad when they have EU young talent already in Poland, Bulgaria, or Germany? It’s not like Americans can just show up, unlike here
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I graduated in 2008. It was tough but eventually landed on my feet. My parents didn’t let me live at home- that would’ve been helpful! I got my job in my field through a temporary internship that turned into a full-time job. Maybe look out for those. They could turn into something permanent.
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Anonymous wrote:I graduated in 2008. It was tough but eventually landed on my feet. My parents didn’t let me live at home- that would’ve been helpful! I got my job in my field through a temporary internship that turned into a full-time job. Maybe look out for those. They could turn into something permanent.


Geez, how did you afford to live? Lots of roommates straight out of undergrad?
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I feel bad for my 2025 college grad because this environment is so uncertain.

AI also seems to be causing a lot of stress among job-seekers. Everything we read (at least in my industry of law) is about how humans will no longer be needed once AI can do all of the jobs.

One thing that increases anxiety in this age group is (a) looking at your peers' job/internship announcements on LinkedIn; and (b) looking at your peers' awesome new apartment photos on social media. Unlike when I was in my early 20's, it's so easy now to compare yourself with others because you have so much info about what everyone is doing. I hope that my DS will minimize looking at those things, and just focus on his own journey.
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