Elrich proposes MoCo property tax increase

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Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

So you broke the law, got a ticket and that's why kids in Sudan should starve to death?

Keep up. We’re talking about how MoCo should be spending taxpayer money as the county exec proposes an increase. Someone said we should DOGE MoCo and MCPS. I said I’m not a fan of DOGE but clearly there’s inefficiency if police officers have nothing better to do than harass residents for the crime of driving through their own neighborhoods. Those access restrictions are intended for people trying to cut through neighborhoods during rush hour not for people who live in the neighborhood and applying them in any other way is what’s called predatory policing.

Why do you associate DOGE with efficiency? How is DOGE related to government not harassing citizens?

I said I’m not a fan of DOGE You’re working really hard to miss the point, which is that instead of raising taxes, MoCo should make better use of the money we’re already paying.

Then why mention DOGE if they have nothing to do with what you want to happen?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

So you broke the law, got a ticket and that's why kids in Sudan should starve to death?

Keep up. We’re talking about how MoCo should be spending taxpayer money as the county exec proposes an increase. Someone said we should DOGE MoCo and MCPS. I said I’m not a fan of DOGE but clearly there’s inefficiency if police officers have nothing better to do than harass residents for the crime of driving through their own neighborhoods. Those access restrictions are intended for people trying to cut through neighborhoods during rush hour not for people who live in the neighborhood and applying them in any other way is what’s called predatory policing.

Why do you associate DOGE with efficiency? How is DOGE related to government not harassing citizens?

I said I’m not a fan of DOGE You’re working really hard to miss the point, which is that instead of raising taxes, MoCo should make better use of the money we’re already paying.

Then why mention DOGE if they have nothing to do with what you want to happen?

No answer lol not surprised

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/03/14/elrich-proposes-tax-rate-increase-to-fund-budget/

Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich announced Friday he is proposing a 3.5% property tax rate increase in order to fully fund Montgomery County Public Schools’ (MCPS) $3.65 billion budget request for the upcoming fiscal year.

The 3.5% increase is just to cover the MCPS increase. What is the whole tax increase?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/03/14/elrich-proposes-tax-rate-increase-to-fund-budget/

Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich announced Friday he is proposing a 3.5% property tax rate increase in order to fully fund Montgomery County Public Schools’ (MCPS) $3.65 billion budget request for the upcoming fiscal year.

The 3.5% increase is just to cover the MCPS increase. What is the whole tax increase?

It doesn’t cover the full amount. It’s $34mill less than MCPS requested but still an increase from last year:
“The FY26 recommended budget provides a total of $3.62 billion for MCPS, responding to an unprecedented $284 million requested increase from the Superintendent and Board of Education to meet significant needs. The County's contribution increases by $250 million—the largest-ever year-over-year increase—which funds negotiated compensation agreements, increases the number of special education teachers and paraeducators, and enhances school security.”

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=46713

[Anonymous]

Chances are the Council will agree to the raises for county employees and find other reductions to lower but not eliminate the tax increase.

[Anonymous]

They need to decrease the amount of council members.

[Anonymous]

They need to stop giving handouts to developers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They need to decrease the amount of council members.

They just increased them from 9 to 11

[Anonymous]

Cut the friggin school budget. If times are tough for the country, then local govts need to stop spending money and increasing salaries. Period. MCPS doesn't get to keep increasing spending ad infinitum despite economic conditions. In fact, they should cut salaries.

Spending has little correlation with educational outcomes after a certain point. Why can countries like Sweden, Japan, South Korea, China, and Singapore produce a far better educational product than US public schools while spending 2-3x less? Most of the money in systems like MCPS go entirely to an over bloated bureaucratic mess that pays 100s and thousands of unnecessary people crazy salaries with cushy pensions. Then they have to hire consultants for $2000/h to come up with a modernized curriculum teaching math, even though math needs no updating, and then spend even more money on more consultants to study the potential impact and long term outcomes.

Cut and fire 80% in MCPS. Reduce taxes, make MoCo a better place to do business.

[Anonymous]

Look at Baltimore city if you want to see the future of Montgomery county. Moco is following that playbook to a T

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cut the friggin school budget. If times are tough for the country, then local govts need to stop spending money and increasing salaries. Period. MCPS doesn't get to keep increasing spending ad infinitum despite economic conditions. In fact, they should cut salaries.

Spending has little correlation with educational outcomes after a certain point. Why can countries like Sweden, Japan, South Korea, China, and Singapore produce a far better educational product than US public schools while spending 2-3x less? Most of the money in systems like MCPS go entirely to an over bloated bureaucratic mess that pays 100s and thousands of unnecessary people crazy salaries with cushy pensions. Then they have to hire consultants for $2000/h to come up with a modernized curriculum teaching math, even though math needs no updating, and then spend even more money on more consultants to study the potential impact and long term outcomes.

Cut and fire 80% in MCPS. Reduce taxes, make MoCo a better place to do business.

They can't. State law requires them to maintain at least the same per pupil spending as the year before. There is no way for the power of the purse, in this respect, to demand efficiencies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cut the friggin school budget. If times are tough for the country, then local govts need to stop spending money and increasing salaries. Period. MCPS doesn't get to keep increasing spending ad infinitum despite economic conditions. In fact, they should cut salaries.

Spending has little correlation with educational outcomes after a certain point. Why can countries like Sweden, Japan, South Korea, China, and Singapore produce a far better educational product than US public schools while spending 2-3x less? Most of the money in systems like MCPS go entirely to an over bloated bureaucratic mess that pays 100s and thousands of unnecessary people crazy salaries with cushy pensions. Then they have to hire consultants for $2000/h to come up with a modernized curriculum teaching math, even though math needs no updating, and then spend even more money on more consultants to study the potential impact and long term outcomes.

Cut and fire 80% in MCPS. Reduce taxes, make MoCo a better place to do business.

They can't. State law requires them to maintain at least the same per pupil spending as the year before. There is no way for the power of the purse, in this respect, to demand efficiencies.

Blah blah blah.. then change state law rapidly. It shouldn't be hard. Dems constantly tell us it can't be done, yet as trump showed, you can actually enforce immigration law, without massive reforms, overnight. MoCo needs massive austerities, IMMEDIATELY. They're going to blow up the enire ccountry because they still can't wrap their brain around the big picture - the flow of easy money is over. The govt left the area. There are no more jobs. The county is about to become Baltimore. Austerity NOW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cut the friggin school budget. If times are tough for the country, then local govts need to stop spending money and increasing salaries. Period. MCPS doesn't get to keep increasing spending ad infinitum despite economic conditions. In fact, they should cut salaries.

Spending has little correlation with educational outcomes after a certain point. Why can countries like Sweden, Japan, South Korea, China, and Singapore produce a far better educational product than US public schools while spending 2-3x less? Most of the money in systems like MCPS go entirely to an over bloated bureaucratic mess that pays 100s and thousands of unnecessary people crazy salaries with cushy pensions. Then they have to hire consultants for $2000/h to come up with a modernized curriculum teaching math, even though math needs no updating, and then spend even more money on more consultants to study the potential impact and long term outcomes.

Cut and fire 80% in MCPS. Reduce taxes, make MoCo a better place to do business.

They can't. State law requires them to maintain at least the same per pupil spending as the year before. There is no way for the power of the purse, in this respect, to demand efficiencies.

What did we do in the recession of 2008? Were we temporarily exempted from maintenance of effort for MCPS?

Blah blah blah.. then change state law rapidly. It shouldn't be hard. Dems constantly tell us it can't be done, yet as trump showed, you can actually enforce immigration law, without massive reforms, overnight. MoCo needs massive austerities, IMMEDIATELY. They're going to blow up the enire ccountry because they still can't wrap their brain around the big picture - the flow of easy money is over. The govt left the area. There are no more jobs. The county is about to become Baltimore. Austerity NOW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cut the friggin school budget. If times are tough for the country, then local govts need to stop spending money and increasing salaries. Period. MCPS doesn't get to keep increasing spending ad infinitum despite economic conditions. In fact, they should cut salaries.

Spending has little correlation with educational outcomes after a certain point. Why can countries like Sweden, Japan, South Korea, China, and Singapore produce a far better educational product than US public schools while spending 2-3x less? Most of the money in systems like MCPS go entirely to an over bloated bureaucratic mess that pays 100s and thousands of unnecessary people crazy salaries with cushy pensions. Then they have to hire consultants for $2000/h to come up with a modernized curriculum teaching math, even though math needs no updating, and then spend even more money on more consultants to study the potential impact and long term outcomes.

Cut and fire 80% in MCPS. Reduce taxes, make MoCo a better place to do business.

They can't. State law requires them to maintain at least the same per pupil spending as the year before. There is no way for the power of the purse, in this respect, to demand efficiencies.

Blah blah blah.. then change state law rapidly. It shouldn't be hard. Dems constantly tell us it can't be done, yet as trump showed, you can actually enforce immigration law, without massive reforms, overnight. MoCo needs massive austerities, IMMEDIATELY. They're going to blow up the enire ccountry because they still can't wrap their brain around the big picture - the flow of easy money is over. The govt left the area. There are no more jobs. The county is about to become Baltimore. Austerity NOW.

What did we do in 2008 during the recession? Were we temporarily exempted from the maintenance of effort funding rule?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cut the friggin school budget. If times are tough for the country, then local govts need to stop spending money and increasing salaries. Period. MCPS doesn't get to keep increasing spending ad infinitum despite economic conditions. In fact, they should cut salaries.

Spending has little correlation with educational outcomes after a certain point. Why can countries like Sweden, Japan, South Korea, China, and Singapore produce a far better educational product than US public schools while spending 2-3x less? Most of the money in systems like MCPS go entirely to an over bloated bureaucratic mess that pays 100s and thousands of unnecessary people crazy salaries with cushy pensions. Then they have to hire consultants for $2000/h to come up with a modernized curriculum teaching math, even though math needs no updating, and then spend even more money on more consultants to study the potential impact and long term outcomes.

Cut and fire 80% in MCPS. Reduce taxes, make MoCo a better place to do business.

They can't. State law requires them to maintain at least the same per pupil spending as the year before. There is no way for the power of the purse, in this respect, to demand efficiencies.

Blah blah blah.. then change state law rapidly. It shouldn't be hard. Dems constantly tell us it can't be done, yet as trump showed, you can actually enforce immigration law, without massive reforms, overnight. MoCo needs massive austerities, IMMEDIATELY. They're going to blow up the enire ccountry because they still can't wrap their brain around the big picture - the flow of easy money is over. The govt left the area. There are no more jobs. The county is about to become Baltimore. Austerity NOW.

What did we do in 2008 during the recession? Were we temporarily exempted from the maintenance of effort funding rule?

Stop trying to compare to 2008. This is far worse. MoCo could still suck the govt teat in 2008. This is different. The govt is gone. Permanently. This is an existential crisis, yet progressives in the county think they can continue to tax and spend the same way as if nothing has changed.

It's like losing your job, ignoring that you have more income, then taking a huge $10,000 vacation on a credit card. On what world would that make sense?