Elrich proposes MoCo property tax increase

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I think there is plenty of room to criticize Elrich, most of the county's collective bargaining agreements are in the last of their 3 year periods. I believe it is legally difficult for the county executive to back out of those agreements but the council does have that authority. So folks should look to see what the Council does.

But they could reduce staff/spendig. No need for layoffs either, just natural attrition like don't fill positions when people retire.

they've been doing that the past several years. That's why you lost 27 911 dispatcher positions last year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I think there is plenty of room to criticize Elrich, most of the county's collective bargaining agreements are in the last of their 3 year periods. I believe it is legally difficult for the county executive to back out of those agreements but the council does have that authority. So folks should look to see what the Council does.

But they could reduce staff/spendig. No need for layoffs either, just natural attrition like don't fill positions when people retire.

they've been doing that the past several years. That's why you lost 27 911 dispatcher positions last year

Eliminating these vacant positions was done to allow spending on other things, not to cut costs. That budget also had a tax increase!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I think there is plenty of room to criticize Elrich, most of the county's collective bargaining agreements are in the last of their 3 year periods. I believe it is legally difficult for the county executive to back out of those agreements but the council does have that authority. So folks should look to see what the Council does.

But they could reduce staff/spendig. No need for layoffs either, just natural attrition like don't fill positions when people retire.

they've been doing that the past several years. That's why you lost 27 911 dispatcher positions last year

Eliminating these vacant positions was done to allow spending on other things, not to cut costs. That budget also had a tax increase!

Elrich cuts services to make room for union raises. Always has and always will

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I think there is plenty of room to criticize Elrich, most of the county's collective bargaining agreements are in the last of their 3 year periods. I believe it is legally difficult for the county executive to back out of those agreements but the council does have that authority. So folks should look to see what the Council does.

But they could reduce staff/spendig. No need for layoffs either, just natural attrition like don't fill positions when people retire.

they've been doing that the past several years. That's why you lost 27 911 dispatcher positions last year

Eliminating these vacant positions was done to allow spending on other things, not to cut costs. That budget also had a tax increase!

Elrich cuts services to make room for union raises. Always has and always will

I am not sure about these vacancies specifically but I know a lot of the cuts were done by the Council in order to cut the tax increase by half.

[Anonymous]

Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

Maybe if MoCo didn't subsidize CC & TP with service contracts that give short shrift to the rest of the county and differential enforcement...

It could be a real win-win -- lower expenses and less annoyance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

So you broke the law, got a ticket and that's why kids in Sudan should starve to death?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

So you broke the law, got a ticket and that's why kids in Sudan should starve to death?

Keep up. We’re talking about how MoCo should be spending taxpayer money as the county exec proposes an increase. Someone said we should DOGE MoCo and MCPS. I said I’m not a fan of DOGE but clearly there’s inefficiency if police officers have nothing better to do than harass residents for the crime of driving through their own neighborhoods. Those access restrictions are intended for people trying to cut through neighborhoods during rush hour not for people who live in the neighborhood and applying them in any other way is what’s called predatory policing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

So you broke the law, got a ticket and that's why kids in Sudan should starve to death?

Keep up. We’re talking about how MoCo should be spending taxpayer money as the county exec proposes an increase. Someone said we should DOGE MoCo and MCPS. I said I’m not a fan of DOGE but clearly there’s inefficiency if police officers have nothing better to do than harass residents for the crime of driving through their own neighborhoods. Those access restrictions are intended for people trying to cut through neighborhoods during rush hour not for people who live in the neighborhood and applying them in any other way is what’s called predatory policing.

Agreed 100%.

Montgomery County has a bunch of unnecessary rush hour turn restrictions, even to turn on arterial roads. What’s the purpose of having arterial roads if drivers can’t use them?! Maybe you wouldn’t have so much cut through traffic in these neighborhoods if Montgomery County updated its road grid to account for 2025 traffic. Instead we’re all driving around on roads that were made for rush hour traffic of 30 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

So you broke the law, got a ticket and that's why kids in Sudan should starve to death?

Keep up. We’re talking about how MoCo should be spending taxpayer money as the county exec proposes an increase. Someone said we should DOGE MoCo and MCPS. I said I’m not a fan of DOGE but clearly there’s inefficiency if police officers have nothing better to do than harass residents for the crime of driving through their own neighborhoods. Those access restrictions are intended for people trying to cut through neighborhoods during rush hour not for people who live in the neighborhood and applying them in any other way is what’s called predatory policing.

Agreed 100%.

Montgomery County has a bunch of unnecessary rush hour turn restrictions, even to turn on arterial roads. What’s the purpose of having arterial roads if drivers can’t use them?! Maybe you wouldn’t have so much cut through traffic in these neighborhoods if Montgomery County updated its road grid to account for 2025 traffic. Instead we’re all driving around on roads that were made for rush hour traffic of 30 years ago.

And it’s just perfect representation of how idiotic Montgomery County leadership is that one of the major road expansion projects in the past years was to build a bypass in Brookville in an area where no one even lives. How about expanding the grid close to the Beltway or anywhere - here’s a bright idea - where more people live?

[Anonymous]

I’m all for bike lanes but I literally have never seen a single cyclist on the Old Georgetown Road bike lane. If you wanted to use it to slow down traffic why not just expand the sidewalks and build some nice trails? The bike lanes are unused and filled with leaves, sticks, and trash most of the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

So you broke the law, got a ticket and that's why kids in Sudan should starve to death?

Keep up. We’re talking about how MoCo should be spending taxpayer money as the county exec proposes an increase. Someone said we should DOGE MoCo and MCPS. I said I’m not a fan of DOGE but clearly there’s inefficiency if police officers have nothing better to do than harass residents for the crime of driving through their own neighborhoods. Those access restrictions are intended for people trying to cut through neighborhoods during rush hour not for people who live in the neighborhood and applying them in any other way is what’s called predatory policing.

Why do you associate DOGE with efficiency? How is DOGE related to government not harassing citizens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

So you broke the law, got a ticket and that's why kids in Sudan should starve to death?

Keep up. We’re talking about how MoCo should be spending taxpayer money as the county exec proposes an increase. Someone said we should DOGE MoCo and MCPS. I said I’m not a fan of DOGE but clearly there’s inefficiency if police officers have nothing better to do than harass residents for the crime of driving through their own neighborhoods. Those access restrictions are intended for people trying to cut through neighborhoods during rush hour not for people who live in the neighborhood and applying them in any other way is what’s called predatory policing.

Why do you associate DOGE with efficiency? How is DOGE related to government not harassing citizens?

I said I’m not a fan of DOGE You’re working really hard to miss the point, which is that instead of raising taxes, MoCo should make better use of the money we’re already paying.

[Anonymous]

Montgomery County continues to push its residents away. We are sticking around until our kid is out of high school and then we are outta here. Expensive, crowded, failing schools, no enforcement by police, uniparty system with no accountability. I've given up on the residents putting up a fight. The Fed cuts will destroy what remains of the tax base, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of DOGE, but got pulled over in my own neighborhood this morning for driving down a road that says do not enter 6a-930a and I’m pissed. Apparently there is no local exclusion (aren’t these signs intended to prevent cut throughs?!) and this police officer has nothing better to do than pull over residents trying to drive to their own house. He was actually sitting there waiting for someone to drive down the road. If our police officers have nothing better to do, I fail to see why we need to raise taxes. There’s clearly plenty of places to trim the fat.

So you broke the law, got a ticket and that's why kids in Sudan should starve to death?

Keep up. We’re talking about how MoCo should be spending taxpayer money as the county exec proposes an increase. Someone said we should DOGE MoCo and MCPS. I said I’m not a fan of DOGE but clearly there’s inefficiency if police officers have nothing better to do than harass residents for the crime of driving through their own neighborhoods. Those access restrictions are intended for people trying to cut through neighborhoods during rush hour not for people who live in the neighborhood and applying them in any other way is what’s called predatory policing.

Why do you associate DOGE with efficiency? How is DOGE related to government not harassing citizens?

I said I’m not a fan of DOGE You’re working really hard to miss the point, which is that instead of raising taxes, MoCo should make better use of the money we’re already paying.

Then why mention DOGE if they have nothing to do with what you want to happen?