Open Lunch

[Anonymous]

I attended an out of state HS with 3,000 students. We had 2 lunches and weren’t allowed off campus. Clubs met after school from 2:30-3:30. Extra help either happened during the 50 minute class, during your study hall/resource class time, or after school.

Teacher contract hours are longer than the actual school day and there are stipends for clubs.

[Anonymous]

Are there study hall or resource class time nowadays? We had them but which MCP HS have this?

[Anonymous]

There are no study halls.

Resource classes are very limited (most of the spots are for kids with IEPs).

[Anonymous]

Has any school done away with open lunch?

[Anonymous]

Out of the 25 high schools, which schools dont have open lunch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Out of the 25 high schools, which schools dont have open lunch?

Blair. They don't want to have B-CC's problems.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how staggered lunches would work. My sophomore has classes with kids from 9th to 12th grade. It seems like a scheduling nightmare. Maybe if there were two periods, 11-12 and 12-1 or something it could work but it seems very challenging.

They have 2-3 lunch periods and kids get assigned depending on their schedule.

Students benefit more from being able to see any friend they want to at lunch, having the opportunity to make up tests they missed, get extra help from the teachers, and attend club meetings. The administrators get the headache of dealing with complaints about student behavior off campus during lunch, but avoid the headache of much more complicated scheduling. The teachers can offer help to students at lunch instead of having to stay late to help kids after school.

None of these benefits are objectively measured or consistent.

The other downsides to the current model means teachers don't actually get a break to have lunch, since they have to use the lunch period to host clubs, give kids a space to hang out, or do make up work. This contributes to the significant teacher burnout we're seeing in MCPS.

Teachers don't have clubs and support meetings all lunch every day. They get at least half of the 1hr lunch to themselves.

A lot of clubs are student run so the teacher is present but not actively leading club.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Einstein does

No, they don’t. It is closed but if students choose to leave they will not stop or enforce it. Weak principal

Principal is not going to stop your Larlo from leaving because there are thousands more students to monitor.

Principal can lock the doors so Larlo get come back and only enter through the front office and get processed for suspension.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wootton claims they are the only HS without an open lunch

Who says, where?

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Anonymous wrote:WJ does, they overrun Wildwood shopping center until 12. They are allowed to get food and supposed to take it back to the cafeteria, which they do at Chipotle, Flippin side of OGR because there's a security officer there, but at Wildwood Balduccis side, they get use Flower Child and Piccolo as a cafeteria. It's REALLY annoying and I wish the restaurants would complain.

Back when I was in high school, there was only one fast food restaurant within easy walking distance of our high school and there were no large employers anywhere near it. Our lunch was from 11:40 - 12:25. The place would be packed with students, but we were paying customers, no one was smoking, using drugs or having sex in the bathrooms, the vast majority of us were good about throwing out our trash and cleaning up after ourselves. Elderly people (not even workers, with limited lunchtimes) complained bitterly because there weren’t a lot of open tables during that 45 minute period of the day, and a packed restaurant is noisy, even if no one is yelling. I never understood why people with flexible schedules wouldn’t just eat lunch before or after us instead of being annoyed that teenagers had the right to go to lunch too. The restaurant wasn’t going to do a thing about it because a substantial portion of their revenue came from high school students.

Do the restaurants at the Wildwood shopping center have actual grievances to complain about or are you just upset that their restaurants are crowded?

Restaurants like getting paid, but supermarkets hate the shoplifting and vandalism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Einstein does

No, they don’t. It is closed but if students choose to leave they will not stop or enforce it. Weak principal

Principal is not going to stop your Larlo from leaving because there are thousands more students to monitor.

Principal is not going to monitor dangerous rule-breaking because they need to monitor the safe non-rule-breakers. Make it make sense

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Einstein does

No, they don’t. It is closed but if students choose to leave they will not stop or enforce it. Weak principal

They changed it this year and now allow uber food deliveries as well. Very weak principal whose not putting kids needs first. Kids run the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Einstein does

No, they don’t. It is closed but if students choose to leave they will not stop or enforce it. Weak principal

Principal is not going to stop your Larlo from leaving because there are thousands more students to monitor.

Principal is not going to monitor dangerous rule-breaking because they need to monitor the safe non-rule-breakers. Make it make sense

Lazy principal. Why have rules at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there study hall or resource class time nowadays? We had them but which MCP HS have this?

It’s a specific class usually need an iep.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how staggered lunches would work. My sophomore has classes with kids from 9th to 12th grade. It seems like a scheduling nightmare. Maybe if there were two periods, 11-12 and 12-1 or something it could work but it seems very challenging.

They have 2-3 lunch periods and kids get assigned depending on their schedule.

Students benefit more from being able to see any friend they want to at lunch, having the opportunity to make up tests they missed, get extra help from the teachers, and attend club meetings. The administrators get the headache of dealing with complaints about student behavior off campus during lunch, but avoid the headache of much more complicated scheduling. The teachers can offer help to students at lunch instead of having to stay late to help kids after school.

None of these benefits are objectively measured or consistent.

The other downsides to the current model means teachers don't actually get a break to have lunch, since they have to use the lunch period to host clubs, give kids a space to hang out, or do make up work. This contributes to the significant teacher burnout we're seeing in MCPS.

Teachers don't have clubs and support meetings all lunch every day. They get at least half of the 1hr lunch to themselves.

A lot of clubs are student run so the teacher is present but not actively leading club.

It depends on the teacher. Some have support available at lunch and clubs, others don't.