MCPS level of academic rigor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD is a senior at a W school. Took 9 APs and has gotten straight As throughout high school. I cannot think of one time she was stressed about too much work or gave up any leisure activities to study.

I am not telling you this to brag, quite the opposite: her first shot on the SAT was 1080. That should tell you all there is to know.

This tells me your DD can do more. W schools usually offer over 30 APs/post APs classes. Your daughter is not top students and the SAT reflects that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is a senior at a W school. Took 9 APs and has gotten straight As throughout high school. I cannot think of one time she was stressed about too much work or gave up any leisure activities to study.

I am not telling you this to brag, quite the opposite: her first shot on the SAT was 1080. That should tell you all there is to know.

This tells me your DD can do more. W schools usually offer over 30 APs/post APs classes. Your daughter is not top students and the SAT reflects that.

Obviously. That’s my point. She got straight As there but in another school system or private, she wouldn’t have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is a senior at a W school. Took 9 APs and has gotten straight As throughout high school. I cannot think of one time she was stressed about too much work or gave up any leisure activities to study.

I am not telling you this to brag, quite the opposite: her first shot on the SAT was 1080. That should tell you all there is to know.

This tells me your DD can do more. W schools usually offer over 30 APs/post APs classes. Your daughter is not top students and the SAT reflects that.

Our school offers few ap classes. 9 isn’t very much for a school that offers more than

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD is a senior at a W school. Took 9 APs and has gotten straight As throughout high school. I cannot think of one time she was stressed about too much work or gave up any leisure activities to study.

I am not telling you this to brag, quite the opposite: her first shot on the SAT was 1080. That should tell you all there is to know.

OP. This is exactly the point I'm talking about and it is quite scary. Did her MAP score give any sort of indication that she wouldn't have a high SAT score in her first try? Do you remember what her percentile range was in her 9th grade MAP test? Tbh, I just don't get it. I thought MCPS is considered one of the best not in the area but in the entire country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is a senior at a W school. Took 9 APs and has gotten straight As throughout high school. I cannot think of one time she was stressed about too much work or gave up any leisure activities to study.

I am not telling you this to brag, quite the opposite: her first shot on the SAT was 1080. That should tell you all there is to know.

OP. This is exactly the point I'm talking about and it is quite scary. Did her MAP score give any sort of indication that she wouldn't have a high SAT score in her first try? Do you remember what her percentile range was in her 9th grade MAP test? Tbh, I just don't get it. I thought MCPS is considered one of the best not in the area but in the entire country.

DP. You can get a good eduction at MCPS schools, particularly the W schools. The problem is the wholesale embrace of profound grade inflation by MCPS administrators. No one knows who's learning what when everyone is getting an A. Grade inflation was the MCPS solution to low performing students. No one can tell that significant parts of Montgomery County are underperforming when you can hide results behind systemic grade inflation. Personally, I blame voters. This is what you get when you keep electing "progressive" educators.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is a senior at a W school. Took 9 APs and has gotten straight As throughout high school. I cannot think of one time she was stressed about too much work or gave up any leisure activities to study.

I am not telling you this to brag, quite the opposite: her first shot on the SAT was 1080. That should tell you all there is to know.

OP. This is exactly the point I'm talking about and it is quite scary. Did her MAP score give any sort of indication that she wouldn't have a high SAT score in her first try? Do you remember what her percentile range was in her 9th grade MAP test? Tbh, I just don't get it. I thought MCPS is considered one of the best not in the area but in the entire country.

I don’t remember her exact MAP score or percentages but do know that her scores were always mediocre. She always said that she put no effort into MAP so we chalked it up to that. Again, she got straight As so while we never thought she was a genius, we didn’t think it was so bad. In hindsight, I would have sent her to private school for HS. My older DD went to a private that is often scoffed at but she got a much better education.

[Anonymous]

The combination of low expectations, in response to differences of academic achievement instead of more difficult/expensive intervention, and differential academic opportunity across schools, responding to "community pull" instead of more difficult/expensive ensurance of reasonably equivalent access to more rigorous/advanced coursework, has done enormous disservice to students of all backgrounds. As a different approach would require more effort & funding, however, neither side of the political spectrum is likely to support change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is a senior at a W school. Took 9 APs and has gotten straight As throughout high school. I cannot think of one time she was stressed about too much work or gave up any leisure activities to study.

I am not telling you this to brag, quite the opposite: her first shot on the SAT was 1080. That should tell you all there is to know.

OP. This is exactly the point I'm talking about and it is quite scary. Did her MAP score give any sort of indication that she wouldn't have a high SAT score in her first try? Do you remember what her percentile range was in her 9th grade MAP test? Tbh, I just don't get it. I thought MCPS is considered one of the best not in the area but in the entire country.

I don’t remember her exact MAP score or percentages but do know that her scores were always mediocre. She always said that she put no effort into MAP so we chalked it up to that. Again, she got straight As so while we never thought she was a genius, we didn’t think it was so bad. In hindsight, I would have sent her to private school for HS. My older DD went to a private that is often scoffed at but she got a much better education.

More made up stories

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD is a senior at a W school. Took 9 APs and has gotten straight As throughout high school. I cannot think of one time she was stressed about too much work or gave up any leisure activities to study.

I am not telling you this to brag, quite the opposite: her first shot on the SAT was 1080. That should tell you all there is to know.

Wow that’s shocking. Do you think she was cheating?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This seems to be a problem with public schools nationwide. I have a kid who had straight As through a W schools (and high SAT) and is now at an Ivy. She said there is a stark contrast in public vs private school kids in work ethic. The private school kids sit somewhere quiet and focus and study hard on a regular basis, all semester. The public school kids, not so much.

She had a prof who said as much. He had a tendency to say the quiet part out loud and gave them a bit of a pep talk saying he wants EVERYONE to succeed. And then said, 'I've found from past semesters that I tend to have kids drop out or not do well--especially women, minorities, and kids from public schools' (she is all three), 'so especially if you are in one of these categories, please come to office hours and we'll work through this stuff together to make sure you succeed.'

Kind of a jerk thing to say, but it suggests that he can see a difference between public and private school kids...

I don't think you can say the same for the kids coming through RM, Blair and Poolesville magnets.

My Blair kid found college easier than high school. I think that’s a pretty common experience for the magnet kids.

Depends on what you choose to do in college.

[Anonymous]

Study for a test for an hour? That sounds like a long time for a test. They have tests every week.

She's learning a lot. Not sure what more you want her to learn - you can always just teach her those things if you know what you want her to learn.

Yes there is grade inflation and it sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Study for a test for an hour? That sounds like a long time for a test. They have tests every week.

She's learning a lot. Not sure what more you want her to learn - you can always just teach her those things if you know what you want her to learn.

Yes there is grade inflation and it sucks.

We would easily study for an hour or two per test in HS but that was private school.

[Anonymous]

Honors classes are usually really easy. Freshmen yr from my DD was also very easy, all A's without any effort but it does get harder Sophomore yr depending on what math class she needs to take and what APs she will take. For my DD it was a big jump and she finally had to learn how to study and do more outside of class.

[Anonymous]

So what public school districts in this area do NOT us grade inflation? I’ll wait…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honors classes are usually really easy. Freshmen yr from my DD was also very easy, all A's without any effort but it does get harder Sophomore yr depending on what math class she needs to take and what APs she will take. For my DD it was a big jump and she finally had to learn how to study and do more outside of class.

OP here. Hopefully that’s what is going to happen to her too. I think DD will be taking two APs (US history and ComSci) and Honors for English, PreCal, Chemistry etc. She is a high level competitive athlete, so in hindsight I don’t what to give her too much pressure academically while she is already handling with pressure from her sport.