Concerns About Early Pickup Expectations and Child Comfort at After-School Program

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly are the “ safety concerns” OP?

well, the kids are wondering around and anyone can get through the front door -one ring the gaurd opens to everyone has an easy acess to kids- we cannot pretend that school shootings do not happen.

Perhaps they did “spare the children a moment to collect their belongings” — prior to and in the process of getting them ready to be picked up as scheduled.

again I arrived 15 minutes BEFORE

Were you expecting the teachers to wait until someone arrived for each kid to begin this process?
yes the same if I were to pick my child at 5:00pm


“Poor kids”? Really? In any case, If you can’t “physically accommodate their expectations “ — which, as far as I can tell, are about picking up your kid on time, then perhaps this particular program won’t work well for you. And, yes, this is normal. The teachers probably are eager to leave. Just like you, they have scheduled responsibilities and appointments.

Well, as I am told the aftercare should run till 6:00 the teachers should not have any expectations to leave before 6.

Right, they want to leave at 6. Not after you show up at and it takes a while for you to collect your kid's stuff and get him out of there. Actual 6. Because they are busy just like you.

What are talking about grabbing little jacket, hat and backpack and walking him takes at most 2 minutes. When I pick my child early -I never wait more than 5 minutes, They do not have to dress my child and they are free to leave as soon my child is in my reach. I can dress my child . They do it to hurt my child and send me a message

Then perhaps you can tell the teachers that you will arrive consistently by 5:45, and that you will dress your child yourself. And then you need to do it — so that you and your child actually leave by 6. Keep in mind though, that this might be confusing for your child if the other remaining kids are getting ready to go home while your child is not.

what are you taking about? it is confusing for my child to sit in the winter coat indoors fore 15 minutes

Keep in mind too that if the group activity for all of the other kids involves getting ready to leave, your child will probably have to wait while this is happening, unless you’ve already come early to get him ready to leave yourself. Keep in mind also that your “at most 2 minutes” might play out differently for teachers working with multiple kids.

what activity? putting the coat and a hat which most kids do on their own

- Really? How is it “confusing “ for your child — along with his classmates— to put on his coat, gather his things, and wait to be picked up? It sounds like a routine, and one that might even make it easier for some kids and their parents. Again, you also have the option of getting there early enough, consistently, to handle these things yourself.

yes if he is getting picked up right after he is dressed up not like 5-10 minutes after
yes, that is why the teachers are doing that, but the school is downtown and traffic sucks. When I signed I did not think that pick by 6 should be more like pick by 5:45

- And, yes, scheduling a set amount of time for the kids to put on their coats and getting their things together — transitioning from school to being picked up — actually is an activity. It supports the development of quite a few pro-social skills.


what skills? the kids are being picked at different times except 2-3. What pro-social skills?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are probably rushing out to get their own kids.

This.

how this becomes my problem ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your kid doesn’t need to be entertained every minute.

That is true, but at least he would be distracted form the fact thaqt he is sweating buckets

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are probably rushing out to get their own kids.

This.

how this becomes my problem ?

It's not your problem but maybe you find it slightly relatable and could be less aggressive about it. They're people too.

If you annoy the staff and they quit, then there's no aftercare at all until more can be hired. So try showing some respect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid doesn’t need to be entertained every minute.

That is true, but at least he would be distracted form the fact thaqt he is sweating buckets

If he sweats buckets in 15 mins perhaps his coat is too heavy or you need to see a doctor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think you need to accept that the school has chosen one of the cheaper, and therefore crappier, aftercare providers. And therefore you'll be having an underwhelming experience. Still, the things you're complaining about are just not that big a deal. Oh, he was too warm for 15 minutes, oh nooooo! Oh your feelings are hurt because they dressed him! Come on. Our school has Flex and I can tell you far worse things Flex has done.

Like what? share please

But nobody makes a big deal of it because we all understand that you get what you pay for.

I did not choose- it is the only provider for the school

And +1 to PP who said it's 2 minutes for one adult to dress one child, but it's far more than that when two adults are dressing many children.

at 3 a child can put on the jacket and a hat by himself. 2 minutes if my child is coloring and put out his water bottle somewhere that needs to be collected

Maybe you’re overreacting, maybe you’re worried about your first born and pregnant with your second. I’ve been there. I’d still tell any mom to trust her gut. Your instinct is probably right that the care isn’t the best. So now what? You have to make a move.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your child is safe and able to sit around for 15 minutes bored while they wait for you, I’d pick my battles.

Today, he was running through the hallways. How is it that if I pick up my child at 5:00, I cannot get past security and must wait for my child to be brought to me due to safety concerns, but after 5:45, those concerns seem to disappear?

Sounds like a parenting problem. Yes, how your kids behave when you’re not there is directly influenced by how you raise them at home. Shrug.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think you need to accept that the school has chosen one of the cheaper, and therefore crappier, aftercare providers. And therefore you'll be having an underwhelming experience. Still, the things you're complaining about are just not that big a deal. Oh, he was too warm for 15 minutes, oh nooooo! Oh your feelings are hurt because they dressed him! Come on. Our school has Flex and I can tell you far worse things Flex has done.

Like what? share please

But nobody makes a big deal of it because we all understand that you get what you pay for.

I did not choose- it is the only provider for the school

And +1 to PP who said it's 2 minutes for one adult to dress one child, but it's far more than that when two adults are dressing many children.

at 3 a child can put on the jacket and a hat by himself. 2 minutes if my child is coloring and put out his water bottle somewhere that needs to be collected

Well no, some kids can and some can't. It depends on their development. Not everyone is typically developing and they still have the right to aftercare. Sometimes a kid needs to pee and that delays the whole thing. Sometimes they can't find their items. All kinds of things can make it slower.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly are the “ safety concerns” OP?

well, the kids are wondering around and anyone can get through the front door -one ring the gaurd opens to everyone has an easy acess to kids- we cannot pretend that school shootings do not happen.

Perhaps they did “spare the children a moment to collect their belongings” — prior to and in the process of getting them ready to be picked up as scheduled.

again I arrived 15 minutes BEFORE

Were you expecting the teachers to wait until someone arrived for each kid to begin this process?
yes the same if I were to pick my child at 5:00pm


“Poor kids”? Really? In any case, If you can’t “physically accommodate their expectations “ — which, as far as I can tell, are about picking up your kid on time, then perhaps this particular program won’t work well for you. And, yes, this is normal. The teachers probably are eager to leave. Just like you, they have scheduled responsibilities and appointments.

Well, as I am told the aftercare should run till 6:00 the teachers should not have any expectations to leave before 6.

Right, they want to leave at 6. Not after you show up at and it takes a while for you to collect your kid's stuff and get him out of there. Actual 6. Because they are busy just like you.

What are talking about grabbing little jacket, hat and backpack and walking him takes at most 2 minutes. When I pick my child early -I never wait more than 5 minutes, They do not have to dress my child and they are free to leave as soon my child is in my reach. I can dress my child . They do it to hurt my child and send me a message

How does it hurt your child to be... dressed in his clothes? This is truly weird.

15 minutes in the winter jacket indoors with theater running - overheating , skin rash, to name a few

You are absolutely ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, hon, it's ok for your child to wait! This is a normal part of being in a group setting, and it's an important life skill. It's really not that big a deal. Learning to wait patiently is an age-appropriate thing for a preschooler to develop. He will not be confused. He will think "I am ready to go and waiting for my mom." There's nothing confusing about it.

sure thing, he is waiting for his mom from the moment I leave him in the morning...why does he needs to be waiting in the winter jacket and a hat, why the security protocols and policy imposed by school are no longer in place after 5:45...I mean they are established for a reason

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly are the “ safety concerns” OP?

well, the kids are wondering around and anyone can get through the front door -one ring the gaurd opens to everyone has an easy acess to kids- we cannot pretend that school shootings do not happen.

Perhaps they did “spare the children a moment to collect their belongings” — prior to and in the process of getting them ready to be picked up as scheduled.

again I arrived 15 minutes BEFORE

Were you expecting the teachers to wait until someone arrived for each kid to begin this process?
yes the same if I were to pick my child at 5:00pm


“Poor kids”? Really? In any case, If you can’t “physically accommodate their expectations “ — which, as far as I can tell, are about picking up your kid on time, then perhaps this particular program won’t work well for you. And, yes, this is normal. The teachers probably are eager to leave. Just like you, they have scheduled responsibilities and appointments.

Well, as I am told the aftercare should run till 6:00 the teachers should not have any expectations to leave before 6.

Right, they want to leave at 6. Not after you show up at and it takes a while for you to collect your kid's stuff and get him out of there. Actual 6. Because they are busy just like you.

What are talking about grabbing little jacket, hat and backpack and walking him takes at most 2 minutes. When I pick my child early -I never wait more than 5 minutes, They do not have to dress my child and they are free to leave as soon my child is in my reach. I can dress my child . They do it to hurt my child and send me a message

How does it hurt your child to be... dressed in his clothes? This is truly weird.

15 minutes in the winter jacket indoors with theater running - overheating , skin rash, to name a few

Overheating and getting a skin rash?! Is this a newborn?

he has a sensitive skin - not quite uncommon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly are the “ safety concerns” OP?

well, the kids are wondering around and anyone can get through the front door -one ring the gaurd opens to everyone has an easy acess to kids- we cannot pretend that school shootings do not happen.

Perhaps they did “spare the children a moment to collect their belongings” — prior to and in the process of getting them ready to be picked up as scheduled.

again I arrived 15 minutes BEFORE

Were you expecting the teachers to wait until someone arrived for each kid to begin this process?
yes the same if I were to pick my child at 5:00pm


“Poor kids”? Really? In any case, If you can’t “physically accommodate their expectations “ — which, as far as I can tell, are about picking up your kid on time, then perhaps this particular program won’t work well for you. And, yes, this is normal. The teachers probably are eager to leave. Just like you, they have scheduled responsibilities and appointments.

Well, as I am told the aftercare should run till 6:00 the teachers should not have any expectations to leave before 6.

Right, they want to leave at 6. Not after you show up at and it takes a while for you to collect your kid's stuff and get him out of there. Actual 6. Because they are busy just like you.

What are talking about grabbing little jacket, hat and backpack and walking him takes at most 2 minutes. When I pick my child early -I never wait more than 5 minutes, They do not have to dress my child and they are free to leave as soon my child is in my reach. I can dress my child . They do it to hurt my child and send me a message

How does it hurt your child to be... dressed in his clothes? This is truly weird.

15 minutes in the winter jacket indoors with theater running - overheating , skin rash, to name a few

You are absolutely ridiculous.

well google it= unfortunately it is very real for us and for some other parents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are probably rushing out to get their own kids.

This.

how this becomes my problem ?

Are you a troll? Your grammar doesn’t sound like a native English speaker and your post, and the entitlement with which it’s dripping, is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly are the “ safety concerns” OP?

well, the kids are wondering around and anyone can get through the front door -one ring the gaurd opens to everyone has an easy acess to kids- we cannot pretend that school shootings do not happen.

Perhaps they did “spare the children a moment to collect their belongings” — prior to and in the process of getting them ready to be picked up as scheduled.

again I arrived 15 minutes BEFORE

Were you expecting the teachers to wait until someone arrived for each kid to begin this process?
yes the same if I were to pick my child at 5:00pm


“Poor kids”? Really? In any case, If you can’t “physically accommodate their expectations “ — which, as far as I can tell, are about picking up your kid on time, then perhaps this particular program won’t work well for you. And, yes, this is normal. The teachers probably are eager to leave. Just like you, they have scheduled responsibilities and appointments.

Well, as I am told the aftercare should run till 6:00 the teachers should not have any expectations to leave before 6.

Right, they want to leave at 6. Not after you show up at and it takes a while for you to collect your kid's stuff and get him out of there. Actual 6. Because they are busy just like you.

What are talking about grabbing little jacket, hat and backpack and walking him takes at most 2 minutes. When I pick my child early -I never wait more than 5 minutes, They do not have to dress my child and they are free to leave as soon my child is in my reach. I can dress my child . They do it to hurt my child and send me a message

How does it hurt your child to be... dressed in his clothes? This is truly weird.

15 minutes in the winter jacket indoors with theater running - overheating , skin rash, to name a few

Overheating and getting a skin rash?! Is this a newborn?

he has a sensitive skin - not quite uncommon

Apples don’t fall far from the tree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you need to accept that the school has chosen one of the cheaper, and therefore crappier, aftercare providers. And therefore you'll be having an underwhelming experience. Still, the things you're complaining about are just not that big a deal. Oh, he was too warm for 15 minutes, oh nooooo! Oh your feelings are hurt because they dressed him! Come on. Our school has Flex and I can tell you far worse things Flex has done.

Like what? share please

But nobody makes a big deal of it because we all understand that you get what you pay for.

I did not choose- it is the only provider for the school

And +1 to PP who said it's 2 minutes for one adult to dress one child, but it's far more than that when two adults are dressing many children.

at 3 a child can put on the jacket and a hat by himself. 2 minutes if my child is coloring and put out his water bottle somewhere that needs to be collected

Well no, some kids can and some can't. It depends on their development. Not everyone is typically developing and they still have the right to aftercare. Sometimes a kid needs to pee and that delays the whole thing. Sometimes they can't find their items. All kinds of things can make it slower.

well, somehow our providers are very efficient as they are ready to roll at 5:40, but you made a good point. it seems like they dress up the kids at 5:20 to come down at 5:45