Starbucks to require purchases to hang out in stores

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, so you should be able to sit and "work" there for hours but no one else should?

I personally think 20-30 min limit for everyone at a coffee shop is very reasonable.

I'm buying stuff. If they want to enforce 20-30 minutes for paying customers, fine, but would result in lost business not only from people who work from these spots, but also (for example) friends wanting to meet up for coffee. Most of those meetups would be more like an hour, not 20 minutes.

So you think your $5 latte entitles you take up their space for an entire day? And you don't see a problem with that. If you need to work, go rent a place, go to the library, work from home. Starbucks is a business. They need to turn tables and sell products. I would love if they enforced the 20-30 min limit on everyone.

there are plenty of places that would meet all your needs. they are called OFFICES!

But would if I want to order $20 worth of drinks and food and stay for 3 hours? I do that all the time and spend a ton of money at Starbucks. If they limited me to 20-30 minutes, I would not go at all and would find another coffee shop that would let me stay for longer because the whole point for me is finding a place with a pleasant atmosphere, food/drink, and wifi so that I can get a break from my home office and interact with people instead of being a shut in. I probably wouldn't go to Starbucks at all if it didn't serve this purpose, and I bet I spend a lot more money there than most people.

Who are the people you're interacting with? The barista?

Yes! I know all the baristas and the manager of my primary Starbucks. I've also had nice chats with other customers, and sometimes run into neighbors and friends there.

This is literally Starbucks' dream -- I am describing their ideal environment for their stores. People going there regularly, finding community, and ordering Starbucks products that they occupy on site while you stand outside angrily glaring at them and their laptops through the windows.

Dude, thats not community. The workers are forced to interact with you, and you are hogging a seat that people would like to use to sit with their friends and enjoy a coffee in actual community. Getting your social needs met is nice for you, but no less annoying to evrryone else than the person who didn't buy anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, so you should be able to sit and "work" there for hours but no one else should?

I personally think 20-30 min limit for everyone at a coffee shop is very reasonable.

I'm buying stuff. If they want to enforce 20-30 minutes for paying customers, fine, but would result in lost business not only from people who work from these spots, but also (for example) friends wanting to meet up for coffee. Most of those meetups would be more like an hour, not 20 minutes.

So you think your $5 latte entitles you take up their space for an entire day? And you don't see a problem with that. If you need to work, go rent a place, go to the library, work from home. Starbucks is a business. They need to turn tables and sell products. I would love if they enforced the 20-30 min limit on everyone.

First off, "$5 latte", you clearly haven't been to Starbucks since 2013. I don't work there the entire day. It's a couple hours. And clearly, Starbucks does not see a problem with that. I don't see them setting time limits or banning anyone who actually is buying things.

I guess they do with this new policy. Kudos to them.

It applies to people who aren't buying anything. Can you read?

OK so you plan to buy something every 30 min? Great.

The policy does not require this but also I would be find buying things while I sit there, in fact I already do this because if I finish my drink but am still working I will usually order another or get something to eat.

I know you've made hating people who work at coffee shops like 20% of your personality but fortunately Starbucks loves people who work at coffee shops and people who work at coffee shops love Starbucks. It's a deeply symbiotic relationship and you can't break us up.

DP. What makes you think Starbucks loves you? Maybe the barista who you tipped generously but your one drink and maybe a pastry for hours of internet, using their toilet and taking up a table for two is not in their interest.

Well I know Starbucks loves me because they are a corporate entity that exists for the sole purpose of making money and I give them lots of my money in exchange for consumables and a place to sit and work for hours.

But also the manager at my regular Starbucks definitely likes me and always brings me and other regulars samples of stuff and we've had conversations about how it's a particularly nice Starbucks and also how corporate needs to send someone to fix automatic faucet in one of the bathrooms because it sprays water too hard and it hits the sink at a wrong angle and sprays water all over the bathroom. Those of us in the know use the other bathroom to avoid this which also saves the manager the trouble of having to mop down that bathroom again. Come on, Corporate! Fix the sink.

xoxo

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, so you should be able to sit and "work" there for hours but no one else should?

I personally think 20-30 min limit for everyone at a coffee shop is very reasonable.

I'm buying stuff. If they want to enforce 20-30 minutes for paying customers, fine, but would result in lost business not only from people who work from these spots, but also (for example) friends wanting to meet up for coffee. Most of those meetups would be more like an hour, not 20 minutes.

So you think your $5 latte entitles you take up their space for an entire day? And you don't see a problem with that. If you need to work, go rent a place, go to the library, work from home. Starbucks is a business. They need to turn tables and sell products. I would love if they enforced the 20-30 min limit on everyone.

First off, "$5 latte", you clearly haven't been to Starbucks since 2013. I don't work there the entire day. It's a couple hours. And clearly, Starbucks does not see a problem with that. I don't see them setting time limits or banning anyone who actually is buying things.

I guess they do with this new policy. Kudos to them.

It applies to people who aren't buying anything. Can you read?

OK so you plan to buy something every 30 min? Great.

The policy does not require this but also I would be find buying things while I sit there, in fact I already do this because if I finish my drink but am still working I will usually order another or get something to eat.

I know you've made hating people who work at coffee shops like 20% of your personality but fortunately Starbucks loves people who work at coffee shops and people who work at coffee shops love Starbucks. It's a deeply symbiotic relationship and you can't break us up.

DP. What makes you think Starbucks loves you? Maybe the barista who you tipped generously but your one drink and maybe a pastry for hours of internet, using their toilet and taking up a table for two is not in their interest.

Well I know Starbucks loves me because they are a corporate entity that exists for the sole purpose of making money and I give them lots of my money in exchange for consumables and a place to sit and work for hours.

But also the manager at my regular Starbucks definitely likes me and always brings me and other regulars samples of stuff and we've had conversations about how it's a particularly nice Starbucks and also how corporate needs to send someone to fix automatic faucet in one of the bathrooms because it sprays water too hard and it hits the sink at a wrong angle and sprays water all over the bathroom. Those of us in the know use the other bathroom to avoid this which also saves the manager the trouble of having to mop down that bathroom again. Come on, Corporate! Fix the sink.

xoxo

You're just....like so special...and everyone LOVES you...

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, so you should be able to sit and "work" there for hours but no one else should?

I personally think 20-30 min limit for everyone at a coffee shop is very reasonable.

I'm buying stuff. If they want to enforce 20-30 minutes for paying customers, fine, but would result in lost business not only from people who work from these spots, but also (for example) friends wanting to meet up for coffee. Most of those meetups would be more like an hour, not 20 minutes.

So you think your $5 latte entitles you take up their space for an entire day? And you don't see a problem with that. If you need to work, go rent a place, go to the library, work from home. Starbucks is a business. They need to turn tables and sell products. I would love if they enforced the 20-30 min limit on everyone.

there are plenty of places that would meet all your needs. they are called OFFICES!

But would if I want to order $20 worth of drinks and food and stay for 3 hours? I do that all the time and spend a ton of money at Starbucks. If they limited me to 20-30 minutes, I would not go at all and would find another coffee shop that would let me stay for longer because the whole point for me is finding a place with a pleasant atmosphere, food/drink, and wifi so that I can get a break from my home office and interact with people instead of being a shut in. I probably wouldn't go to Starbucks at all if it didn't serve this purpose, and I bet I spend a lot more money there than most people.

Who are the people you're interacting with? The barista?

Yes! I know all the baristas and the manager of my primary Starbucks. I've also had nice chats with other customers, and sometimes run into neighbors and friends there.

This is literally Starbucks' dream -- I am describing their ideal environment for their stores. People going there regularly, finding community, and ordering Starbucks products that they occupy on site while you stand outside angrily glaring at them and their laptops through the windows.

Dude, thats not community. The workers are forced to interact with you, and you are hogging a seat that people would like to use to sit with their friends and enjoy a coffee in actual community. Getting your social needs met is nice for you, but no less annoying to evrryone else than the person who didn't buy anything.

The workers are actually not forced to interact with me -- I usually order via the app and we aren't strictly required to interact. But we chat anyway because that's the nice thing about having a regular coffee shop and getting to know the people who work there. I'm sorry you haven't experienced this. It might be your personality? Just spitballin' here.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, so you should be able to sit and "work" there for hours but no one else should?

I personally think 20-30 min limit for everyone at a coffee shop is very reasonable.

I'm buying stuff. If they want to enforce 20-30 minutes for paying customers, fine, but would result in lost business not only from people who work from these spots, but also (for example) friends wanting to meet up for coffee. Most of those meetups would be more like an hour, not 20 minutes.

So you think your $5 latte entitles you take up their space for an entire day? And you don't see a problem with that. If you need to work, go rent a place, go to the library, work from home. Starbucks is a business. They need to turn tables and sell products. I would love if they enforced the 20-30 min limit on everyone.

First off, "$5 latte", you clearly haven't been to Starbucks since 2013. I don't work there the entire day. It's a couple hours. And clearly, Starbucks does not see a problem with that. I don't see them setting time limits or banning anyone who actually is buying things.

I guess they do with this new policy. Kudos to them.

It applies to people who aren't buying anything. Can you read?

OK so you plan to buy something every 30 min? Great.

The policy does not require this but also I would be find buying things while I sit there, in fact I already do this because if I finish my drink but am still working I will usually order another or get something to eat.

I know you've made hating people who work at coffee shops like 20% of your personality but fortunately Starbucks loves people who work at coffee shops and people who work at coffee shops love Starbucks. It's a deeply symbiotic relationship and you can't break us up.

DP. What makes you think Starbucks loves you? Maybe the barista who you tipped generously but your one drink and maybe a pastry for hours of internet, using their toilet and taking up a table for two is not in their interest.

Well I know Starbucks loves me because they are a corporate entity that exists for the sole purpose of making money and I give them lots of my money in exchange for consumables and a place to sit and work for hours.

But also the manager at my regular Starbucks definitely likes me and always brings me and other regulars samples of stuff and we've had conversations about how it's a particularly nice Starbucks and also how corporate needs to send someone to fix automatic faucet in one of the bathrooms because it sprays water too hard and it hits the sink at a wrong angle and sprays water all over the bathroom. Those of us in the know use the other bathroom to avoid this which also saves the manager the trouble of having to mop down that bathroom again. Come on, Corporate! Fix the sink.

xoxo

How much do you spend and how long do you stay? How much profit does Starbucks make off you after deducting wifi, bathroom cleaning, ingredients and labor costs. How much do they lose from other customers avoiding the store when there are no tables available?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, so you should be able to sit and "work" there for hours but no one else should?

I personally think 20-30 min limit for everyone at a coffee shop is very reasonable.

I'm buying stuff. If they want to enforce 20-30 minutes for paying customers, fine, but would result in lost business not only from people who work from these spots, but also (for example) friends wanting to meet up for coffee. Most of those meetups would be more like an hour, not 20 minutes.

So you think your $5 latte entitles you take up their space for an entire day? And you don't see a problem with that. If you need to work, go rent a place, go to the library, work from home. Starbucks is a business. They need to turn tables and sell products. I would love if they enforced the 20-30 min limit on everyone.

there are plenty of places that would meet all your needs. they are called OFFICES!

But would if I want to order $20 worth of drinks and food and stay for 3 hours? I do that all the time and spend a ton of money at Starbucks. If they limited me to 20-30 minutes, I would not go at all and would find another coffee shop that would let me stay for longer because the whole point for me is finding a place with a pleasant atmosphere, food/drink, and wifi so that I can get a break from my home office and interact with people instead of being a shut in. I probably wouldn't go to Starbucks at all if it didn't serve this purpose, and I bet I spend a lot more money there than most people.

Who are the people you're interacting with? The barista?

Yes! I know all the baristas and the manager of my primary Starbucks. I've also had nice chats with other customers, and sometimes run into neighbors and friends there.

This is literally Starbucks' dream -- I am describing their ideal environment for their stores. People going there regularly, finding community, and ordering Starbucks products that they occupy on site while you stand outside angrily glaring at them and their laptops through the windows.

Dude, thats not community. The workers are forced to interact with you, and you are hogging a seat that people would like to use to sit with their friends and enjoy a coffee in actual community. Getting your social needs met is nice for you, but no less annoying to evrryone else than the person who didn't buy anything.

Why is someone who wants to drink coffee while talking to a friend more important than someone who wants to drink coffee while working on a laptop.

If I were at Starbucks drinking coffee while reading a novel, do you also think you should be allowed to kick me out so that YOU can have that table, or is a novel okay because it's not "work"?

What if the think I'm working on is actually a screenplay, and I'm not being paid. And again, I'm still drinking coffee. Is that okay?

I think in reality you just want to be able to kick people out of chairs anytime you go somewhere and there aren't any seats. Do you know what I do when I go to Starbucks and there is nowhere to sit down? I either wait to see if something opens up or I go somewhere else. It's never occurred to me to angrily demand the people there vacate for my benefit. That's interesting.

[Anonymous]

When I was at a local Starbucks on a freezing weekend morning recently, several patrons with recent purchases were clearly homeless. I am worried that the new administration is going to making providing services to struggling folks even harder.

[Anonymous]

The funny thing about this back and forth with "get out of my seat!!!!" guy is that the Starbucks I frequent has this wrap around bench seating that runs all the way along the front of the store and it's never full. Even if all the tables are full, you can always sit down in the window. One reason I'm extra happy about the new policy is that sometimes people who aren't buying anything will come in and lay down on the bench seating or stack a bunch of shopping bags or coats on it and one person can take up a space where 4 or 5 people could comfortably sit to read or talk while drinking coffee. There's also a big communal table and while usually 2-3 spots are taken with people working, I have literally never seen the whole table full.

So at least at my Starbucks, the "give me your seat!!!" guy would always have a seat. But somehow I sense that the sight of me with my laptop enjoying latte #3 on hour #4 would still enrage him, which makes me giggle.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing about this back and forth with "get out of my seat!!!!" guy is that the Starbucks I frequent has this wrap around bench seating that runs all the way along the front of the store and it's never full. Even if all the tables are full, you can always sit down in the window. One reason I'm extra happy about the new policy is that sometimes people who aren't buying anything will come in and lay down on the bench seating or stack a bunch of shopping bags or coats on it and one person can take up a space where 4 or 5 people could comfortably sit to read or talk while drinking coffee. There's also a big communal table and while usually 2-3 spots are taken with people working, I have literally never seen the whole table full.

So at least at my Starbucks, the "give me your seat!!!" guy would always have a seat. But somehow I sense that the sight of me with my laptop enjoying latte #3 on hour #4 would still enrage him, which makes me giggle.

You sound lonely.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish there was a way to do this for libraries too. The homeless have taken them over.

Yeah, they should just freeze to death!

No they shouldn't but the library is not a homeless shelter.

We should convert libraries and post offices into homeless shelters.

B/c who needs a library or post office?? You people putting homeless before kids.

The homeless deserve to be there as much as your kids do. I know, I know. It's a hard pill to swallow, but just try.

That's your opinion but the librarians hate it too; not just patrons.

Am I supposed to care about what the librarians want? You would literally rather see people freeze to death than share a space with them because you deem them less than you. You are gross.

Librarians would rather you didn't use the library. You might damage or reorder the books.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was at a local Starbucks on a freezing weekend morning recently, several patrons with recent purchases were clearly homeless. I am worried that the new administration is going to making providing services to struggling folks even harder.

I don't like Trump and I care about the homeless but I don't understand this comment.

Starbucks is not a service provided to the homeless. A private business is not responsible for providing bathrooms and refuge for homeless people. They might choose to do it, and Starbuck has chosen to do it for the last 7 years, but if it continues it could put them out of business so they have to stop. But that doesn't mean that the city can't provide those services to the homeless, in fact, that's who should do it.

Anyway to be honest most of the non-paying customers I see at Starbucks are not homeless. Sometimes but not usually. Most of them are young people looking for a place to hang out. Which again, we as a society should definitely provide. But Starbucks, again, is not required to serve as a teen hangout or a social club for 20 somethings who have no interest in purchasing coffee.

I don't think this policy has anything to do with the new administration.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing about this back and forth with "get out of my seat!!!!" guy is that the Starbucks I frequent has this wrap around bench seating that runs all the way along the front of the store and it's never full. Even if all the tables are full, you can always sit down in the window. One reason I'm extra happy about the new policy is that sometimes people who aren't buying anything will come in and lay down on the bench seating or stack a bunch of shopping bags or coats on it and one person can take up a space where 4 or 5 people could comfortably sit to read or talk while drinking coffee. There's also a big communal table and while usually 2-3 spots are taken with people working, I have literally never seen the whole table full.

So at least at my Starbucks, the "give me your seat!!!" guy would always have a seat. But somehow I sense that the sight of me with my laptop enjoying latte #3 on hour #4 would still enrage him, which makes me giggle.

You sound lonely.

Stay mad, bro. You still aren't getting my table.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was at a local Starbucks on a freezing weekend morning recently, several patrons with recent purchases were clearly homeless. I am worried that the new administration is going to making providing services to struggling folks even harder.

I don't like Trump and I care about the homeless but I don't understand this comment.

Starbucks is not a service provided to the homeless. A private business is not responsible for providing bathrooms and refuge for homeless people. They might choose to do it, and Starbuck has chosen to do it for the last 7 years, but if it continues it could put them out of business so they have to stop. But that doesn't mean that the city can't provide those services to the homeless, in fact, that's who should do it.

Anyway to be honest most of the non-paying customers I see at Starbucks are not homeless. Sometimes but not usually. Most of them are young people looking for a place to hang out. Which again, we as a society should definitely provide. But Starbucks, again, is not required to serve as a teen hangout or a social club for 20 somethings who have no interest in purchasing coffee.

I don't think this policy has anything to do with the new administration.

They have a responsibility to the community to provide services that the government does want to provide! /s

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Anonymous wrote:I wish there was a way to do this for libraries too. The homeless have taken them over.

Yeah, they should just freeze to death!

No they shouldn't but the library is not a homeless shelter.

We should convert libraries and post offices into homeless shelters.

B/c who needs a library or post office?? You people putting homeless before kids.

The homeless deserve to be there as much as your kids do. I know, I know. It's a hard pill to swallow, but just try.

That's your opinion but the librarians hate it too; not just patrons.

Am I supposed to care about what the librarians want? You would literally rather see people freeze to death than share a space with them because you deem them less than you. You are gross.

Librarians would rather you didn't use the library. You might damage or reorder the books.

I mean, probably, but who cares? They get paid the same either way out of tax dollars.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, so you should be able to sit and "work" there for hours but no one else should?

I personally think 20-30 min limit for everyone at a coffee shop is very reasonable.

That's why I don't go to Starbucks - there are no tables because of the people using it as an office. I actually thought the new policy is to get rid of people who park there for hours with their laptops.

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I won’t go to Starbucks to meet up with friends because it’s taken up by people using it as a mobile office and there are no tables. If you’re buying a coffee every 30 minutes sure, but most people buy one cup for an eight hour day. Talk about entitled.