What middle schools/high schools are best from introverted Black boys?

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Anonymous wrote:He sounds like a sweet, academic boy. I think putting him in a place with FARMS and low expectations is the wrong thing, if only to see more diversity in the classrooms.

Putting him in a well funded and successful school with better college outcomes is more in tune with the sound of this kid. He will thrive and not face gangs or daily hassles, because those better funded schools have really strict policies that stop bad behaviors.


This is hilariously untrue. To the extent that MCPS is struggling to deal with student behaviors post-Covid, it is true of every school in the county and particularly every high school. Here's a tip - every school in MCPS is a "place with FARMS." Some schools have higher poverty than others, but I would honestly rather have my child at Einstein with a bunch of hard-working Ethiopian kids than at Whitman with kids who know there can never be a consequence for their actions due to their race/wealth. That's actually a much more dangerous environment for a Black boy because white kids are often not aware of how their own behavior is excused while exposing their Black friends to tremendous danger.


I think you're confused. Whitman is not a private school that caters to rich people and their badly behaved kids. It kicks kids out who need kicking out. There is a zero tolerance policy that is enforced to do with hate behaviors and bullying. Both my kids at Whitman benefit from this hugely. As a parent I know this first hand.


Are you a parent of a black child?


I am a parent of more than one immigrant / foreign child with noticeable language and cultural differences.

Is that good enough for you?


There’s no need to be insecure. If you can’t offer an informed response to OP’s question, it is not a strike against you or your character.
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Anonymous wrote:why does race matter


Because some people “don’t see race” and therefore, they are blind to policies and practices that single out Black and Brown boys for punishment while white and Asian boys engage in the same or worse behavior. And even though they allegedly “don’t see race”, they somehow consistently fail to offer highly capable and interested Black boys opportunities to take engaging courses or participate in “nerdy” extracurriculars.

As an MCPS teacher, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to intervene on behalf of a Black boy whom my “race blind” colleagues are either unfairly harassing or unfairly failing to encourage.


I'm sure you stand up for those Asian and white boys too- right? Right????


I’ve never seen an Asian or White boy be denied an opportunity to take a course or participate in a nerdy extracurricular. MCPS knows their parents wouldn’t tolerate it.


You have never seen a black boy denied the opportunity to participate in an extra curricular or take a course in mcps either.


You can deny it, but MCPS has the data confirmed by outside audits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He sounds like a sweet, academic boy. I think putting him in a place with FARMS and low expectations is the wrong thing, if only to see more diversity in the classrooms.

Putting him in a well funded and successful school with better college outcomes is more in tune with the sound of this kid. He will thrive and not face gangs or daily hassles, because those better funded schools have really strict policies that stop bad behaviors.


This is hilariously untrue. To the extent that MCPS is struggling to deal with student behaviors post-Covid, it is true of every school in the county and particularly every high school. Here's a tip - every school in MCPS is a "place with FARMS." Some schools have higher poverty than others, but I would honestly rather have my child at Einstein with a bunch of hard-working Ethiopian kids than at Whitman with kids who know there can never be a consequence for their actions due to their race/wealth. That's actually a much more dangerous environment for a Black boy because white kids are often not aware of how their own behavior is excused while exposing their Black friends to tremendous danger.


I think you're confused. Whitman is not a private school that caters to rich people and their badly behaved kids. It kicks kids out who need kicking out. There is a zero tolerance policy that is enforced to do with hate behaviors and bullying. Both my kids at Whitman benefit from this hugely. As a parent I know this first hand.


Are you a parent of a black child?


I am a parent of more than one immigrant / foreign child with noticeable language and cultural differences.

Is that good enough for you?


Not the same thing at Whitman and you know it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He sounds like a sweet, academic boy. I think putting him in a place with FARMS and low expectations is the wrong thing, if only to see more diversity in the classrooms.

Putting him in a well funded and successful school with better college outcomes is more in tune with the sound of this kid. He will thrive and not face gangs or daily hassles, because those better funded schools have really strict policies that stop bad behaviors.


This is hilariously untrue. To the extent that MCPS is struggling to deal with student behaviors post-Covid, it is true of every school in the county and particularly every high school. Here's a tip - every school in MCPS is a "place with FARMS." Some schools have higher poverty than others, but I would honestly rather have my child at Einstein with a bunch of hard-working Ethiopian kids than at Whitman with kids who know there can never be a consequence for their actions due to their race/wealth. That's actually a much more dangerous environment for a Black boy because white kids are often not aware of how their own behavior is excused while exposing their Black friends to tremendous danger.


I think you're confused. Whitman is not a private school that caters to rich people and their badly behaved kids. It kicks kids out who need kicking out. There is a zero tolerance policy that is enforced to do with hate behaviors and bullying. Both my kids at Whitman benefit from this hugely. As a parent I know this first hand.


Are you a parent of a black child?


I am a parent of more than one immigrant / foreign child with noticeable language and cultural differences.

Is that good enough for you?


Not the same thing at Whitman and you know it.


Why is it that immigrants cannot bear when black people talk about discrimination against us and the history of discrimination against us in this country. They treat as a threat to them somehow. I don't get it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He sounds like a sweet, academic boy. I think putting him in a place with FARMS and low expectations is the wrong thing, if only to see more diversity in the classrooms.

Putting him in a well funded and successful school with better college outcomes is more in tune with the sound of this kid. He will thrive and not face gangs or daily hassles, because those better funded schools have really strict policies that stop bad behaviors.


This is hilariously untrue. To the extent that MCPS is struggling to deal with student behaviors post-Covid, it is true of every school in the county and particularly every high school. Here's a tip - every school in MCPS is a "place with FARMS." Some schools have higher poverty than others, but I would honestly rather have my child at Einstein with a bunch of hard-working Ethiopian kids than at Whitman with kids who know there can never be a consequence for their actions due to their race/wealth. That's actually a much more dangerous environment for a Black boy because white kids are often not aware of how their own behavior is excused while exposing their Black friends to tremendous danger.


I think you're confused. Whitman is not a private school that caters to rich people and their badly behaved kids. It kicks kids out who need kicking out. There is a zero tolerance policy that is enforced to do with hate behaviors and bullying. Both my kids at Whitman benefit from this hugely. As a parent I know this first hand.


Are you a parent of a black child?


I am a parent of more than one immigrant / foreign child with noticeable language and cultural differences.

Is that good enough for you?


Not the same thing at Whitman and you know it.


Why is it that immigrants cannot bear when black people talk about discrimination against us and the history of discrimination against us in this country. They treat as a threat to them somehow. I don't get it.


It's a combination of factors.

1) Everyone is the hero of their own story. Many immigrants, even MC/UMC folks with highly educated parents well-placed in their home countries, have faced bureaucratic challenges and discrimination as part of their immigration story. But, without the generational trauma element, they feel others should just "get over" whatever barriers they have experienced.

2) Ignorance of US history.

3) Lack of an intersectional lens.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He sounds like a sweet, academic boy. I think putting him in a place with FARMS and low expectations is the wrong thing, if only to see more diversity in the classrooms.

Putting him in a well funded and successful school with better college outcomes is more in tune with the sound of this kid. He will thrive and not face gangs or daily hassles, because those better funded schools have really strict policies that stop bad behaviors.


This is hilariously untrue. To the extent that MCPS is struggling to deal with student behaviors post-Covid, it is true of every school in the county and particularly every high school. Here's a tip - every school in MCPS is a "place with FARMS." Some schools have higher poverty than others, but I would honestly rather have my child at Einstein with a bunch of hard-working Ethiopian kids than at Whitman with kids who know there can never be a consequence for their actions due to their race/wealth. That's actually a much more dangerous environment for a Black boy because white kids are often not aware of how their own behavior is excused while exposing their Black friends to tremendous danger.


I think you're confused. Whitman is not a private school that caters to rich people and their badly behaved kids. It kicks kids out who need kicking out. There is a zero tolerance policy that is enforced to do with hate behaviors and bullying. Both my kids at Whitman benefit from this hugely. As a parent I know this first hand.


Are you a parent of a black child?


I am a parent of more than one immigrant / foreign child with noticeable language and cultural differences.

Is that good enough for you?


There’s no need to be insecure. If you can’t offer an informed response to OP’s question, it is not a strike against you or your character.


Are you responding to an imaginary post? or maybe you need to get back on your meds
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He sounds like a sweet, academic boy. I think putting him in a place with FARMS and low expectations is the wrong thing, if only to see more diversity in the classrooms.

Putting him in a well funded and successful school with better college outcomes is more in tune with the sound of this kid. He will thrive and not face gangs or daily hassles, because those better funded schools have really strict policies that stop bad behaviors.


This is hilariously untrue. To the extent that MCPS is struggling to deal with student behaviors post-Covid, it is true of every school in the county and particularly every high school. Here's a tip - every school in MCPS is a "place with FARMS." Some schools have higher poverty than others, but I would honestly rather have my child at Einstein with a bunch of hard-working Ethiopian kids than at Whitman with kids who know there can never be a consequence for their actions due to their race/wealth. That's actually a much more dangerous environment for a Black boy because white kids are often not aware of how their own behavior is excused while exposing their Black friends to tremendous danger.


I think you're confused. Whitman is not a private school that caters to rich people and their badly behaved kids. It kicks kids out who need kicking out. There is a zero tolerance policy that is enforced to do with hate behaviors and bullying. Both my kids at Whitman benefit from this hugely. As a parent I know this first hand.


Are you a parent of a black child?


I am a parent of more than one immigrant / foreign child with noticeable language and cultural differences.

Is that good enough for you?


Not the same thing at Whitman and you know it.


OK. Tell us how it is not the same thing. Discrimination rears its ugly head in many forms. I think you're demonstrating that quite succinctly right here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He sounds like a sweet, academic boy. I think putting him in a place with FARMS and low expectations is the wrong thing, if only to see more diversity in the classrooms.

Putting him in a well funded and successful school with better college outcomes is more in tune with the sound of this kid. He will thrive and not face gangs or daily hassles, because those better funded schools have really strict policies that stop bad behaviors.


This is hilariously untrue. To the extent that MCPS is struggling to deal with student behaviors post-Covid, it is true of every school in the county and particularly every high school. Here's a tip - every school in MCPS is a "place with FARMS." Some schools have higher poverty than others, but I would honestly rather have my child at Einstein with a bunch of hard-working Ethiopian kids than at Whitman with kids who know there can never be a consequence for their actions due to their race/wealth. That's actually a much more dangerous environment for a Black boy because white kids are often not aware of how their own behavior is excused while exposing their Black friends to tremendous danger.


I think you're confused. Whitman is not a private school that caters to rich people and their badly behaved kids. It kicks kids out who need kicking out. There is a zero tolerance policy that is enforced to do with hate behaviors and bullying. Both my kids at Whitman benefit from this hugely. As a parent I know this first hand.


Are you a parent of a black child?


I am a parent of more than one immigrant / foreign child with noticeable language and cultural differences.

Is that good enough for you?


Not the same thing at Whitman and you know it.


OK. Tell us how it is not the same thing. Discrimination rears its ugly head in many forms. I think you're demonstrating that quite succinctly right here.


The African American experience is unique in the oppression and discrimination and hate experienced in the United States. Black people who are not African Americans(such as African immigrants) may or may not feel the effects at times due to proximity in appearance (not equivalency). In addition, world wide, in Europe, the Middle East, Asia, India, many cultures dislike people of African descent and hate dark skin and place black people in a lower caste, formally or informally. People from these cultures immigrate here and are irritated at the mere presence of black people and are irritated that black people may even dare to see them (immigrants) as newcomers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:why does race matter


Because some people “don’t see race” and therefore, they are blind to policies and practices that single out Black and Brown boys for punishment while white and Asian boys engage in the same or worse behavior. And even though they allegedly “don’t see race”, they somehow consistently fail to offer highly capable and interested Black boys opportunities to take engaging courses or participate in “nerdy” extracurriculars.

As an MCPS teacher, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to intervene on behalf of a Black boy whom my “race blind” colleagues are either unfairly harassing or unfairly failing to encourage.


I'm sure you stand up for those Asian and white boys too- right? Right????


I’ve never seen an Asian or White boy be denied an opportunity to take a course or participate in a nerdy extracurricular. MCPS knows their parents wouldn’t tolerate it.


You have never seen a black boy denied the opportunity to participate in an extra curricular or take a course in mcps either.


You can deny it, but MCPS has the data confirmed by outside audits.


Oh please post it! Let me guess... test scores and discipline is different!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He sounds like a sweet, academic boy. I think putting him in a place with FARMS and low expectations is the wrong thing, if only to see more diversity in the classrooms.

Putting him in a well funded and successful school with better college outcomes is more in tune with the sound of this kid. He will thrive and not face gangs or daily hassles, because those better funded schools have really strict policies that stop bad behaviors.


This is hilariously untrue. To the extent that MCPS is struggling to deal with student behaviors post-Covid, it is true of every school in the county and particularly every high school. Here's a tip - every school in MCPS is a "place with FARMS." Some schools have higher poverty than others, but I would honestly rather have my child at Einstein with a bunch of hard-working Ethiopian kids than at Whitman with kids who know there can never be a consequence for their actions due to their race/wealth. That's actually a much more dangerous environment for a Black boy because white kids are often not aware of how their own behavior is excused while exposing their Black friends to tremendous danger.


I think you're confused. Whitman is not a private school that caters to rich people and their badly behaved kids. It kicks kids out who need kicking out. There is a zero tolerance policy that is enforced to do with hate behaviors and bullying. Both my kids at Whitman benefit from this hugely. As a parent I know this first hand.


Are you a parent of a black child?


I am a parent of more than one immigrant / foreign child with noticeable language and cultural differences.

Is that good enough for you?


Not the same thing at Whitman and you know it.


Why is it that immigrants cannot bear when black people talk about discrimination against us and the history of discrimination against us in this country. They treat as a threat to them somehow. I don't get it.


It's a combination of factors.

1) Everyone is the hero of their own story. Many immigrants, even MC/UMC folks with highly educated parents well-placed in their home countries, have faced bureaucratic challenges and discrimination as part of their immigration story. But, without the generational trauma element, they feel others should just "get over" whatever barriers they have experienced.

2) Ignorance of US history.

3) Lack of an intersectional lens.


Yah none of that applies to black people
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He sounds like a sweet, academic boy. I think putting him in a place with FARMS and low expectations is the wrong thing, if only to see more diversity in the classrooms.

Putting him in a well funded and successful school with better college outcomes is more in tune with the sound of this kid. He will thrive and not face gangs or daily hassles, because those better funded schools have really strict policies that stop bad behaviors.


This is hilariously untrue. To the extent that MCPS is struggling to deal with student behaviors post-Covid, it is true of every school in the county and particularly every high school. Here's a tip - every school in MCPS is a "place with FARMS." Some schools have higher poverty than others, but I would honestly rather have my child at Einstein with a bunch of hard-working Ethiopian kids than at Whitman with kids who know there can never be a consequence for their actions due to their race/wealth. That's actually a much more dangerous environment for a Black boy because white kids are often not aware of how their own behavior is excused while exposing their Black friends to tremendous danger.


I think you're confused. Whitman is not a private school that caters to rich people and their badly behaved kids. It kicks kids out who need kicking out. There is a zero tolerance policy that is enforced to do with hate behaviors and bullying. Both my kids at Whitman benefit from this hugely. As a parent I know this first hand.


Are you a parent of a black child?


I am a parent of more than one immigrant / foreign child with noticeable language and cultural differences.

Is that good enough for you?


Not the same thing at Whitman and you know it.


OK. Tell us how it is not the same thing. Discrimination rears its ugly head in many forms. I think you're demonstrating that quite succinctly right here.


The African American experience is unique in the oppression and discrimination and hate experienced in the United States. Black people who are not African Americans(such as African immigrants) may or may not feel the effects at times due to proximity in appearance (not equivalency). In addition, world wide, in Europe, the Middle East, Asia, India, many cultures dislike people of African descent and hate dark skin and place black people in a lower caste, formally or informally. People from these cultures immigrate here and are irritated at the mere presence of black people and are irritated that black people may even dare to see them (immigrants) as newcomers.


Bullshit. Black people from Africa are treated differently than black Americans nor because of systemic racism against American blacks. Ask any dark skinned African why and they will be happy to tell you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Avoid Wootton until they start taking racism seriously.
This! All black people should stay away from Wootton forever. #BLM
Anonymous
What grade? My son Black, quiet, nerdy/awkward, smart son is at Eastern and likes it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Avoid Wootton until they start taking racism seriously.
This! All black people should stay away from Wootton forever. #BLM


This person is gaslighting you. W's aren't like that at all. The Wootton (and many other W incidents) are artificially blown out of proportion by Jawando or Wolfe. If you look carefully at the "W" incidents, you'll find it mostly consists of desk scribbles, yelling in a parking lot, or a black student using the 'n' word, etc. Compare this to attempted murder in Blair's parking lot in '21, loaded ghost gun in '22, ghost gun parts confiscation in '23, and it's a whole different class of incidents. Check the safety profiles of the schools and you'll see what I mean. But if you really are dead-set against a 'W', but you really want your son to thrive, I've heard good things about two schools.
1. Poolesville. At one time the Blacks there averaged the highest SAT's out of any HS.
2. QO. It's low-key with fewer violent incidents than you'll find in DCC.

Good luck!
Anonymous
Systemic racism my a$$. If anything they have a leg up as they get minority scholarships as college puts students in a lifetime of debt, they get pay outs based on race such as with Monifuh, the law if lenient toward the gang violence in classrooms- we will inflate grades, and paint a rosy picture when minorities harass teachers, etc.

The systemic racism card seems to be coming from the oligarchs who want to divide the working class by race. Just another reason for worker to unite against the oligarchs. Dont believe this narrative of races are the reason for America being a corporate wasteland. Corporations greed and shady corrupt oligarchs are the problem.
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