Are goalies typically the kids who can’t cut it in the field?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 of Maryland’s current goalies are under 5’4” including JJ Suriano. The former Tufts,NW, & Hopkins goalie Molly Laliberty 5’4”. There are more. The point is it’s no longer a position that is just fill the goal up with the biggest body. More and more the goalies are some of if not the most athletic players on the field.

Same goes for male goalies in college. I don’t think you will find an unfit, overweight kid on any college team.

There's an Ivy goalie listed at 5'7" , 210. A Big Ten goalie at 6'2", 300.

"overweight", are we in the 1990s using BMI as a way to determine fitness?

You cannot play high level goalie without being athletic. You can be "overweight" and also a great athlete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 of Maryland’s current goalies are under 5’4” including JJ Suriano. The former Tufts,NW, & Hopkins goalie Molly Laliberty 5’4”. There are more. The point is it’s no longer a position that is just fill the goal up with the biggest body. More and more the goalies are some of if not the most athletic players on the field.

Same goes for male goalies in college. I don’t think you will find an unfit, overweight kid on any college team.

There's an Ivy goalie listed at 5'7" , 210. A Big Ten goalie at 6'2", 300.

"overweight", are we in the 1990s using BMI as a way to determine fitness?

You cannot play high level goalie without being athletic. You can be "overweight" and also a great athlete.

Exactly that. It’s also just a lie. Name the kid + school on the 2025 roster for the ivy who is 5’7/210. It’s not real.

[Anonymous]

The real question is how fast are his hands as that is the top issue for goalies. Body size can be a factor but fast hands are key. Big or small, fast hands can be successful. Also, if he is real good, goalie is one of the best ways to get scholly $$ in college unless he’s in the 0.1% of goal scorers or FOGOs. Coaches will pay for goalies as they need them. Middies/attack/def you split a pot and hope some work out unless they are truly elite. New NIL rules may change this a bit, but if he can be a good goalie, he will always be in demand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 of Maryland’s current goalies are under 5’4” including JJ Suriano. The former Tufts,NW, & Hopkins goalie Molly Laliberty 5’4”. There are more. The point is it’s no longer a position that is just fill the goal up with the biggest body. More and more the goalies are some of if not the most athletic players on the field.

Same goes for male goalies in college. I don’t think you will find an unfit, overweight kid on any college team.

There's an Ivy goalie listed at 5'7" , 210. A Big Ten goalie at 6'2", 300.

"overweight", are we in the 1990s using BMI as a way to determine fitness?

You cannot play high level goalie without being athletic. You can be "overweight" and also a great athlete.

Exactly that. It’s also just a lie. Name the kid + school on the 2025 roster for the ivy who is 5’7/210. It’s not real.

The Brown starter for the last 3 years.
Once again, I posted just 2 examples as the post I replied to said the absolute that there wasn't one player in all of Division 1. They happened to be goalies. It would be pretty easy to find others (although not tons).

The absolute takes and generalizations on this thread are not just hilarious, but wholly off topic from the OP's question, intent and post. And his kid is in 4th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 of Maryland’s current goalies are under 5’4” including JJ Suriano. The former Tufts,NW, & Hopkins goalie Molly Laliberty 5’4”. There are more. The point is it’s no longer a position that is just fill the goal up with the biggest body. More and more the goalies are some of if not the most athletic players on the field.

Same goes for male goalies in college. I don’t think you will find an unfit, overweight kid on any college team.

Ohio state goalie Big Tasty play Highschool for SJC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The real question is how fast are his hands as that is the top issue for goalies. Body size can be a factor but fast hands are key. Big or small, fast hands can be successful. Also, if he is real good, goalie is one of the best ways to get scholly $$ in college unless he’s in the 0.1% of goal scorers or FOGOs. Coaches will pay for goalies as they need them. Middies/attack/def you split a pot and hope some work out unless they are truly elite. New NIL rules may change this a bit, but if he can be a good goalie, he will always be in demand.

It’s harder to get goalie spots, teams need less so this isn’t accurate.

[BillyTheBullet9]

Goalies can have the highest reflexes and mental toughness, but their still set does not always translate directly to the field game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real question is how fast are his hands as that is the top issue for goalies. Body size can be a factor but fast hands are key. Big or small, fast hands can be successful. Also, if he is real good, goalie is one of the best ways to get scholly $$ in college unless he’s in the 0.1% of goal scorers or FOGOs. Coaches will pay for goalies as they need them. Middies/attack/def you split a pot and hope some work out unless they are truly elite. New NIL rules may change this a bit, but if he can be a good goalie, he will always be in demand.

It’s harder to get goalie spots, teams need less so this isn’t accurate.

Teams are taking the same ratio if not more than other players. So that dynamic doesn't exist beyond the outlier of a better top goalie on the high school aged team you're on. And you can shop that for club.

Whether they get better money is unknown, really. If a team has a frosh, soph goalie they expect to be the starter, are they overpaying for another? 2 or 3 on a team? I doubt it.

I do know in the Ivy and Division 3, the money's the same regardless of position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real question is how fast are his hands as that is the top issue for goalies. Body size can be a factor but fast hands are key. Big or small, fast hands can be successful. Also, if he is real good, goalie is one of the best ways to get scholly $$ in college unless he’s in the 0.1% of goal scorers or FOGOs. Coaches will pay for goalies as they need them. Middies/attack/def you split a pot and hope some work out unless they are truly elite. New NIL rules may change this a bit, but if he can be a good goalie, he will always be in demand.

It’s harder to get goalie spots, teams need less so this isn’t accurate.

Teams are taking the same ratio if not more than other players. So that dynamic doesn't exist beyond the outlier of a better top goalie on the high school aged team you're on. And you can shop that for club.

Whether they get better money is unknown, really. If a team has a frosh, soph goalie they expect to be the starter, are they overpaying for another? 2 or 3 on a team? I doubt it.

I do know in the Ivy and Division 3, the money's the same regardless of position.

Starting Goalies always got more scholarship percentage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real question is how fast are his hands as that is the top issue for goalies. Body size can be a factor but fast hands are key. Big or small, fast hands can be successful. Also, if he is real good, goalie is one of the best ways to get scholly $$ in college unless he’s in the 0.1% of goal scorers or FOGOs. Coaches will pay for goalies as they need them. Middies/attack/def you split a pot and hope some work out unless they are truly elite. New NIL rules may change this a bit, but if he can be a good goalie, he will always be in demand.

It’s harder to get goalie spots, teams need less so this isn’t accurate.

Not what the pp was saying. Said it was easier to get $$ as they ain’t paying their 10th attack man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real question is how fast are his hands as that is the top issue for goalies. Body size can be a factor but fast hands are key. Big or small, fast hands can be successful. Also, if he is real good, goalie is one of the best ways to get scholly $$ in college unless he’s in the 0.1% of goal scorers or FOGOs. Coaches will pay for goalies as they need them. Middies/attack/def you split a pot and hope some work out unless they are truly elite. New NIL rules may change this a bit, but if he can be a good goalie, he will always be in demand.

It’s harder to get goalie spots, teams need less so this isn’t accurate.

Teams are taking the same ratio if not more than other players. So that dynamic doesn't exist beyond the outlier of a better top goalie on the high school aged team you're on. And you can shop that for club.

Whether they get better money is unknown, really. If a team has a frosh, soph goalie they expect to be the starter, are they overpaying for another? 2 or 3 on a team? I doubt it.

I do know in the Ivy and Division 3, the money's the same regardless of position.

That’s cause the cheddar is $0 for athletics schollies at those schools.

[Anonymous]

BillyTheBullet9 wrote:Goalies can have the highest reflexes and mental toughness, but their still set does not always translate directly to the field game.

As a goalie parent, I agree. My kid is a good field player. He is in good shape, is relatively fast, high game IQ, high work ethic etc. . . But he is an amazing goalie because he is fearless, mentally tough, very quick, and has explosive strength. Those skills matter most as a goalie so goalie is where he is happiest and where he shines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

BillyTheBullet9 wrote:Goalies can have the highest reflexes and mental toughness, but their still set does not always translate directly to the field game.

As a goalie parent, I agree. My kid is a good field player. He is in good shape, is relatively fast, high game IQ, high work ethic etc. . . But he is an amazing goalie because he is fearless, mentally tough, very quick, and has explosive strength. Those skills matter most as a goalie so goalie is where he is happiest and where he shines.

How tall is he?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

BillyTheBullet9 wrote:Goalies can have the highest reflexes and mental toughness, but their still set does not always translate directly to the field game.

As a goalie parent, I agree. My kid is a good field player. He is in good shape, is relatively fast, high game IQ, high work ethic etc. . . But he is an amazing goalie because he is fearless, mentally tough, very quick, and has explosive strength. Those skills matter most as a goalie so goalie is where he is happiest and where he shines.

How tall is he?

He is likely to be well over 6 feet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

BillyTheBullet9 wrote:Goalies can have the highest reflexes and mental toughness, but their still set does not always translate directly to the field game.

As a goalie parent, I agree. My kid is a good field player. He is in good shape, is relatively fast, high game IQ, high work ethic etc. . . But he is an amazing goalie because he is fearless, mentally tough, very quick, and has explosive strength. Those skills matter most as a goalie so goalie is where he is happiest and where he shines.

How tall is he?

He is likely to be well over 6 feet

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