Which team sport is the most “fair”?

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To me, it’s only fair if everyone receives a prize.
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Rowing, your boat placement is generally based on your erg times.
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Anonymous wrote:In some sense baseball/softball - everyone who gets to bat has the same opportunity to impact their batting average/on base percentage. If a kid hits well there will be a place for them in the field (if they are basically competent fielding).

Beyond that, though, plenty of room for favoritism in who gets to play what position on the field.

This works if your league has everyone bat
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Anonymous wrote:You clowns buy into team sports and end up getting cut and fat and out of shape later in life


I want to move my kids from basketball and football to golf + tennis. And dad played in college. I just have a gut feeling it's not worth it and they could be just as happy with an individual life sport.

Sorry meant to add dad played football in college. He doesn't do any sports now. What a waste. Seems like individual sports just have lifelong benefits. Our golf and tennis team are hard to make but at the min. at least you can play post HS and college.


Golf a kid will play for life...because you can play a competitive game with other competitive golfers or you can easily play for fun with scratch golfers. Also, it's not like a competitive game of golf involves sprinting on the golf course...you can still walk leisurely (or now rent a cart) on the course. Honestly, it's hard to really be able to say that you are working out as a 50 year old because you continue to play golf.

Plenty of former tennis players don't play that often...plenty of former swimmers don't really swim in anything resembling training anymore..etc.

Lots of former basketball players still play basketball as adults. Not sure why you would think that isn't fairly popular for adults.


They don't swim or play tennis everyday but they do swim or play tennis regularly.

Golf and tennis are the two sports that you can play for life. As you get older, you can switch over to pickleball if tennis is too much for you. Golf and tennis are two of the sports that are objective and not subjective. The coach can not cut you from the team and put another inferior in the team because the scores do not lie. That being said, they are two of the hardest sports to make in high school, especially if you live in wealthy areas, and due to a small roster size.


Golf and tennis are two of the hardest HS sports to make? LOL! No.
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Anonymous wrote:You clowns buy into team sports and end up getting cut and fat and out of shape later in life


I want to move my kids from basketball and football to golf + tennis. And dad played in college. I just have a gut feeling it's not worth it and they could be just as happy with an individual life sport.

Sorry meant to add dad played football in college. He doesn't do any sports now. What a waste. Seems like individual sports just have lifelong benefits. Our golf and tennis team are hard to make but at the min. at least you can play post HS and college.


Golf a kid will play for life...because you can play a competitive game with other competitive golfers or you can easily play for fun with scratch golfers. Also, it's not like a competitive game of golf involves sprinting on the golf course...you can still walk leisurely (or now rent a cart) on the course. Honestly, it's hard to really be able to say that you are working out as a 50 year old because you continue to play golf.

Plenty of former tennis players don't play that often...plenty of former swimmers don't really swim in anything resembling training anymore..etc.

Lots of former basketball players still play basketball as adults. Not sure why you would think that isn't fairly popular for adults.


They don't swim or play tennis everyday but they do swim or play tennis regularly.

Golf and tennis are the two sports that you can play for life. As you get older, you can switch over to pickleball if tennis is too much for you. Golf and tennis are two of the sports that are objective and not subjective. The coach can not cut you from the team and put another inferior in the team because the scores do not lie. That being said, they are two of the hardest sports to make in high school, especially if you live in wealthy areas, and due to a small roster size.


Golf and tennis are two of the hardest HS sports to make? LOL! No.


You must go to a poor school
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Anonymous wrote:You clowns buy into team sports and end up getting cut and fat and out of shape later in life


I want to move my kids from basketball and football to golf + tennis. And dad played in college. I just have a gut feeling it's not worth it and they could be just as happy with an individual life sport.

Sorry meant to add dad played football in college. He doesn't do any sports now. What a waste. Seems like individual sports just have lifelong benefits. Our golf and tennis team are hard to make but at the min. at least you can play post HS and college.


Golf a kid will play for life...because you can play a competitive game with other competitive golfers or you can easily play for fun with scratch golfers. Also, it's not like a competitive game of golf involves sprinting on the golf course...you can still walk leisurely (or now rent a cart) on the course. Honestly, it's hard to really be able to say that you are working out as a 50 year old because you continue to play golf.

Plenty of former tennis players don't play that often...plenty of former swimmers don't really swim in anything resembling training anymore..etc.

Lots of former basketball players still play basketball as adults. Not sure why you would think that isn't fairly popular for adults.


They don't swim or play tennis everyday but they do swim or play tennis regularly.

Golf and tennis are the two sports that you can play for life. As you get older, you can switch over to pickleball if tennis is too much for you. Golf and tennis are two of the sports that are objective and not subjective. The coach can not cut you from the team and put another inferior in the team because the scores do not lie. That being said, they are two of the hardest sports to make in high school, especially if you live in wealthy areas, and due to a small roster size.


Golf and tennis are two of the hardest HS sports to make? LOL! No.


You must go to a poor school


+1 That poster must had gone to a poor school.

Go to McLean, Langley or Oakton HS with almost 3000 students and looks at the roster of the tennis/golf teams. There are 10 players on the varsity golf team, I think. The chance of making the golf team is 10/3000, and just about everyone in those areas have $$$ to private training and coaching.
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Anonymous wrote:You clowns buy into team sports and end up getting cut and fat and out of shape later in life


I want to move my kids from basketball and football to golf + tennis. And dad played in college. I just have a gut feeling it's not worth it and they could be just as happy with an individual life sport.

Sorry meant to add dad played football in college. He doesn't do any sports now. What a waste. Seems like individual sports just have lifelong benefits. Our golf and tennis team are hard to make but at the min. at least you can play post HS and college.


Golf a kid will play for life...because you can play a competitive game with other competitive golfers or you can easily play for fun with scratch golfers. Also, it's not like a competitive game of golf involves sprinting on the golf course...you can still walk leisurely (or now rent a cart) on the course. Honestly, it's hard to really be able to say that you are working out as a 50 year old because you continue to play golf.

Plenty of former tennis players don't play that often...plenty of former swimmers don't really swim in anything resembling training anymore..etc.

Lots of former basketball players still play basketball as adults. Not sure why you would think that isn't fairly popular for adults.


They don't swim or play tennis everyday but they do swim or play tennis regularly.

Golf and tennis are the two sports that you can play for life. As you get older, you can switch over to pickleball if tennis is too much for you. Golf and tennis are two of the sports that are objective and not subjective. The coach can not cut you from the team and put another inferior in the team because the scores do not lie. That being said, they are two of the hardest sports to make in high school, especially if you live in wealthy areas, and due to a small roster size.


Golf and tennis are two of the hardest HS sports to make? LOL! No.


You must go to a poor school


+1 That poster must had gone to a poor school.

Go to McLean, Langley or Oakton HS with almost 3000 students and looks at the roster of the tennis/golf teams. There are 10 players on the varsity golf team, I think. The chance of making the golf team is 10/3000, and just about everyone in those areas have $$$ to private training and coaching.


Isn't that the definition of not fair. Just to be clear. What does "private" mean private means not publicly available. So, by definition private training and coaching is not "fair", because not everyone has an opportunity. In this instance the unfairness is not due to some innate talent, but due economic and political station of those who can afford private coaching and training as well as just greens fees. EG it doesn't have anything to do with the sport as to why some kids get to make the team and others don't. It would be another if it was an innate talent or skill that could be acquired through common low-cost activities. EG go running get faster lift some weights get stronger. Shoot a basketball get better at shooting a basket.

Some team sports seem inexpensive eg soccer. Anyone can wear out a soccer ball, but there is a substantial component that has to be learned by interacting within a team. EG the MSI travel coaches' kids (paid coaches and private club owner not just parent coaches) were on my kid's team they felt very strongly that my kid should play defender, but she was the only one of the younger kids playing up a year to score a goal. One of the kids with, parent coach, started at striker nearly every game despite being older and didn't score a goal the entire season and was repeatedly tackled whenever they got the ball to her. Soccer they don't really care if they win. Soccer isn't so competitive here. It is generally run by private clubs and there is someone who will take your money, but I'm not paying for that.

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Anonymous wrote:I would argue basketball and football are the most fair in the sense that the coaches are trying to sell tickets thus are more competitive. The more competitive a sport is the less likely "other" factors come into play in making decisions. My high school's football team had skills-based competitions. Kids broke arms trying to get spots on the starting squad.

Some would argue that "size" makes them unfair, but there are plenty of sports where size is an advantage, basketball and football attract and retain the biggest and best athletes. It always annoyed me that my coaches were all sawed off former point guards that were jealous of size, but you know it isn't like they said Hey let's build a short team of our buddies' kids, so I give them credit for that. I'm trying to get my daughter on a swim team. They don't seem to care that she stands a whole head taller than all the other kids on the team. It's amazing, you can look at the Olympic swimming roster all the women are around six foot tall, nope they've got every one of the smallest kids from the summer league on the competitive roster. It's absurd. They are clearly not competitive minded.

what is your height/spouses height? I wonder if they are looking at that. My son looks smaller than peers but he’s in the 95 percentage. Hes just young for his peer group. Dad/mom are 6’2/5’8 so he should be fairly tall. I wonder if they see the growth potential from parents.
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I want to move my kids from basketball and football to golf + tennis. And dad played in college. I just have a gut feeling it's not worth it and they could be just as happy with an individual life sport.

Sorry meant to add dad played football in college. He doesn't do any sports now. What a waste. Seems like individual sports just have lifelong benefits. Our golf and tennis team are hard to make but at the min. at least you can play post HS and college.


Golf a kid will play for life...because you can play a competitive game with other competitive golfers or you can easily play for fun with scratch golfers. Also, it's not like a competitive game of golf involves sprinting on the golf course...you can still walk leisurely (or now rent a cart) on the course. Honestly, it's hard to really be able to say that you are working out as a 50 year old because you continue to play golf.

Plenty of former tennis players don't play that often...plenty of former swimmers don't really swim in anything resembling training anymore..etc.

Lots of former basketball players still play basketball as adults. Not sure why you would think that isn't fairly popular for adults.


They don't swim or play tennis everyday but they do swim or play tennis regularly.

Golf and tennis are the two sports that you can play for life. As you get older, you can switch over to pickleball if tennis is too much for you. Golf and tennis are two of the sports that are objective and not subjective. The coach can not cut you from the team and put another inferior in the team because the scores do not lie. That being said, they are two of the hardest sports to make in high school, especially if you live in wealthy areas, and due to a small roster size.


Golf and tennis are two of the hardest HS sports to make? LOL! No.


You must go to a poor school


+1 That poster must had gone to a poor school.

Go to McLean, Langley or Oakton HS with almost 3000 students and looks at the roster of the tennis/golf teams. There are 10 players on the varsity golf team, I think. The chance of making the golf team is 10/3000, and just about everyone in those areas have $$$ to private training and coaching.


Isn't that the definition of not fair. Just to be clear. What does "private" mean private means not publicly available. So, by definition private training and coaching is not "fair", because not everyone has an opportunity. In this instance the unfairness is not due to some innate talent, but due economic and political station of those who can afford private coaching and training as well as just greens fees. EG it doesn't have anything to do with the sport as to why some kids get to make the team and others don't. It would be another if it was an innate talent or skill that could be acquired through common low-cost activities. EG go running get faster lift some weights get stronger. Shoot a basketball get better at shooting a basket.

Some team sports seem inexpensive eg soccer. Anyone can wear out a soccer ball, but there is a substantial component that has to be learned by interacting within a team. EG the MSI travel coaches' kids (paid coaches and private club owner not just parent coaches) were on my kid's team they felt very strongly that my kid should play defender, but she was the only one of the younger kids playing up a year to score a goal. One of the kids with, parent coach, started at striker nearly every game despite being older and didn't score a goal the entire season and was repeatedly tackled whenever they got the ball to her. Soccer they don't really care if they win. Soccer isn't so competitive here. It is generally run by private clubs and there is someone who will take your money, but I'm not paying for that.



That might be your definition of "unfair" but to others, someone who did nothing to achieve their height or stature (which is almost always an advantage) other than to have had tall parents, might be the definition of "unfair". In both cases the kid has no control over these factors (genetics and finances). In which case "fairness" is an illusion regarding sports. There is always going to be inherent unfairness because every kid has different genetics and HHI.
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Anonymous wrote:You clowns buy into team sports and end up getting cut and fat and out of shape later in life


I want to move my kids from basketball and football to golf + tennis. And dad played in college. I just have a gut feeling it's not worth it and they could be just as happy with an individual life sport.

Sorry meant to add dad played football in college. He doesn't do any sports now. What a waste. Seems like individual sports just have lifelong benefits. Our golf and tennis team are hard to make but at the min. at least you can play post HS and college.


Golf a kid will play for life...because you can play a competitive game with other competitive golfers or you can easily play for fun with scratch golfers. Also, it's not like a competitive game of golf involves sprinting on the golf course...you can still walk leisurely (or now rent a cart) on the course. Honestly, it's hard to really be able to say that you are working out as a 50 year old because you continue to play golf.

Plenty of former tennis players don't play that often...plenty of former swimmers don't really swim in anything resembling training anymore..etc.

Lots of former basketball players still play basketball as adults. Not sure why you would think that isn't fairly popular for adults.


They don't swim or play tennis everyday but they do swim or play tennis regularly.

Golf and tennis are the two sports that you can play for life. As you get older, you can switch over to pickleball if tennis is too much for you. Golf and tennis are two of the sports that are objective and not subjective. The coach can not cut you from the team and put another inferior in the team because the scores do not lie. That being said, they are two of the hardest sports to make in high school, especially if you live in wealthy areas, and due to a small roster size.


Golf and tennis are two of the hardest HS sports to make? LOL! No.


You must go to a poor school


Golf and tennis are the hardest two teams to make at my UMC/UC large public school. Big country club area. Football is no cut but also very competitive especially the V team.
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Anonymous wrote:You clowns buy into team sports and end up getting cut and fat and out of shape later in life


I want to move my kids from basketball and football to golf + tennis. And dad played in college. I just have a gut feeling it's not worth it and they could be just as happy with an individual life sport.

Sorry meant to add dad played football in college. He doesn't do any sports now. What a waste. Seems like individual sports just have lifelong benefits. Our golf and tennis team are hard to make but at the min. at least you can play post HS and college.


Golf a kid will play for life...because you can play a competitive game with other competitive golfers or you can easily play for fun with scratch golfers. Also, it's not like a competitive game of golf involves sprinting on the golf course...you can still walk leisurely (or now rent a cart) on the course. Honestly, it's hard to really be able to say that you are working out as a 50 year old because you continue to play golf.

Plenty of former tennis players don't play that often...plenty of former swimmers don't really swim in anything resembling training anymore..etc.

Lots of former basketball players still play basketball as adults. Not sure why you would think that isn't fairly popular for adults.


They don't swim or play tennis everyday but they do swim or play tennis regularly.

Golf and tennis are the two sports that you can play for life. As you get older, you can switch over to pickleball if tennis is too much for you. Golf and tennis are two of the sports that are objective and not subjective. The coach can not cut you from the team and put another inferior in the team because the scores do not lie. That being said, they are two of the hardest sports to make in high school, especially if you live in wealthy areas, and due to a small roster size.


Golf and tennis are two of the hardest HS sports to make? LOL! No.


You must go to a poor school


+1 That poster must had gone to a poor school.

Go to McLean, Langley or Oakton HS with almost 3000 students and looks at the roster of the tennis/golf teams. There are 10 players on the varsity golf team, I think. The chance of making the golf team is 10/3000, and just about everyone in those areas have $$$ to private training and coaching.


Isn't that the definition of not fair. Just to be clear. What does "private" mean private means not publicly available. So, by definition private training and coaching is not "fair", because not everyone has an opportunity. In this instance the unfairness is not due to some innate talent, but due economic and political station of those who can afford private coaching and training as well as just greens fees. EG it doesn't have anything to do with the sport as to why some kids get to make the team and others don't. It would be another if it was an innate talent or skill that could be acquired through common low-cost activities. EG go running get faster lift some weights get stronger. Shoot a basketball get better at shooting a basket.

Some team sports seem inexpensive eg soccer. Anyone can wear out a soccer ball, but there is a substantial component that has to be learned by interacting within a team. EG the MSI travel coaches' kids (paid coaches and private club owner not just parent coaches) were on my kid's team they felt very strongly that my kid should play defender, but she was the only one of the younger kids playing up a year to score a goal. One of the kids with, parent coach, started at striker nearly every game despite being older and didn't score a goal the entire season and was repeatedly tackled whenever they got the ball to her. Soccer they don't really care if they win. Soccer isn't so competitive here. It is generally run by private clubs and there is someone who will take your money, but I'm not paying for that.



That might be your definition of "unfair" but to others, someone who did nothing to achieve their height or stature (which is almost always an advantage) other than to have had tall parents, might be the definition of "unfair". In both cases the kid has no control over these factors (genetics and finances). In which case "fairness" is an illusion regarding sports. There is always going to be inherent unfairness because every kid has different genetics and HHI.


You have the right to an attorney, and if you can't afford an attorney, one will be appointed to represent you. There is a difference between "public defender" and "legal counsel" that the best money can buy, you understand that right?

It is like complaining about "unfair" for not being able to attend McLean high school when you live in Annandale, because you can't afford to buy a home in McLean, LOL....

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Those posting that baseball/softball are more objective must have never seen how these stats are made. They are scored by people. And not professionals at younger and HS levels. If a parent is scoring, they can intentionally or unintentionally (through inexperience, inconsistency, who is doing the scoring) affect the stats. And as others said who gets at bats. Complainers get their kids more AB.

And all too often who gets a "hit" vs. reached on error are very subjective and based on who is scoring. Or for pitchers, earned vs. unearned runs.

I've seen a decade of parents complaining to even get their kids stats changed. Unless the coach has a strong backbone this happens in HS sadly.

As someone else mentioned, not all coaches bat/play the "best" kids in the field. They often take into account seniority (not necessarily wrong) and their own subjective bias. Even who gets "district honors" can be truly political and not at all statistics driven.

Swimming/track and field are much more objective.
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Anonymous wrote:You clowns buy into team sports and end up getting cut and fat and out of shape later in life


I want to move my kids from basketball and football to golf + tennis. And dad played in college. I just have a gut feeling it's not worth it and they could be just as happy with an individual life sport.

Sorry meant to add dad played football in college. He doesn't do any sports now. What a waste. Seems like individual sports just have lifelong benefits. Our golf and tennis team are hard to make but at the min. at least you can play post HS and college.


Golf a kid will play for life...because you can play a competitive game with other competitive golfers or you can easily play for fun with scratch golfers. Also, it's not like a competitive game of golf involves sprinting on the golf course...you can still walk leisurely (or now rent a cart) on the course. Honestly, it's hard to really be able to say that you are working out as a 50 year old because you continue to play golf.

Plenty of former tennis players don't play that often...plenty of former swimmers don't really swim in anything resembling training anymore..etc.

Lots of former basketball players still play basketball as adults. Not sure why you would think that isn't fairly popular for adults.


They don't swim or play tennis everyday but they do swim or play tennis regularly.

Golf and tennis are the two sports that you can play for life. As you get older, you can switch over to pickleball if tennis is too much for you. Golf and tennis are two of the sports that are objective and not subjective. The coach can not cut you from the team and put another inferior in the team because the scores do not lie. That being said, they are two of the hardest sports to make in high school, especially if you live in wealthy areas, and due to a small roster size.


Golf and tennis are two of the hardest HS sports to make? LOL! No.


You must go to a poor school


+1 That poster must had gone to a poor school.

Go to McLean, Langley or Oakton HS with almost 3000 students and looks at the roster of the tennis/golf teams. There are 10 players on the varsity golf team, I think. The chance of making the golf team is 10/3000, and just about everyone in those areas have $$$ to private training and coaching.


Isn't that the definition of not fair. Just to be clear. What does "private" mean private means not publicly available. So, by definition private training and coaching is not "fair", because not everyone has an opportunity. In this instance the unfairness is not due to some innate talent, but due economic and political station of those who can afford private coaching and training as well as just greens fees. EG it doesn't have anything to do with the sport as to why some kids get to make the team and others don't. It would be another if it was an innate talent or skill that could be acquired through common low-cost activities. EG go running get faster lift some weights get stronger. Shoot a basketball get better at shooting a basket.

Some team sports seem inexpensive eg soccer. Anyone can wear out a soccer ball, but there is a substantial component that has to be learned by interacting within a team. EG the MSI travel coaches' kids (paid coaches and private club owner not just parent coaches) were on my kid's team they felt very strongly that my kid should play defender, but she was the only one of the younger kids playing up a year to score a goal. One of the kids with, parent coach, started at striker nearly every game despite being older and didn't score a goal the entire season and was repeatedly tackled whenever they got the ball to her. Soccer they don't really care if they win. Soccer isn't so competitive here. It is generally run by private clubs and there is someone who will take your money, but I'm not paying for that.



That might be your definition of "unfair" but to others, someone who did nothing to achieve their height or stature (which is almost always an advantage) other than to have had tall parents, might be the definition of "unfair". In both cases the kid has no control over these factors (genetics and finances). In which case "fairness" is an illusion regarding sports. There is always going to be inherent unfairness because every kid has different genetics and HHI.


I think people underestimate the effort that tall people have to put in to get the results. I go spinning. The instructor said big hill 120 watts, for me 120 watts is easy, to me a big hill is more like 240+ watts. I looked it up online there are professional cyclists that push that many watts. The point is to ride up that hill or run down the court it takes twice as much effort.

Go pump some iron, spin 240+ watts now let's play basketball. There are plenty of short dynamos out there. Short people just are not used to consistently having to put in that much effort, whereas tall people have to be much more coordinated and stronger just to learn to walk for example. That is my opinion, they learn from an early age how to put in effort. Catch a ball, jump, shoot, none of these things are easier because kids are tall.
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Anonymous wrote:Those posting that baseball/softball are more objective must have never seen how these stats are made. They are scored by people. And not professionals at younger and HS levels. If a parent is scoring, they can intentionally or unintentionally (through inexperience, inconsistency, who is doing the scoring) affect the stats. And as others said who gets at bats. Complainers get their kids more AB.

And all too often who gets a "hit" vs. reached on error are very subjective and based on who is scoring. Or for pitchers, earned vs. unearned runs.

I've seen a decade of parents complaining to even get their kids stats changed. Unless the coach has a strong backbone this happens in HS sadly.

As someone else mentioned, not all coaches bat/play the "best" kids in the field. They often take into account seniority (not necessarily wrong) and their own subjective bias. Even who gets "district honors" can be truly political and not at all statistics driven.

Swimming/track and field are much more objective.


GameChanger parent here (and I'm sure I get it wrong, but I do try to be equally hard on my own kids at least).

If your coach uses GC stats to determine...anything other than maybe ball/strike percentages for pitchers, they aren't a great coach. Find a new one.
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Anonymous wrote:You clowns buy into team sports and end up getting cut and fat and out of shape later in life


I want to move my kids from basketball and football to golf + tennis. And dad played in college. I just have a gut feeling it's not worth it and they could be just as happy with an individual life sport.

Sorry meant to add dad played football in college. He doesn't do any sports now. What a waste. Seems like individual sports just have lifelong benefits. Our golf and tennis team are hard to make but at the min. at least you can play post HS and college.


Golf a kid will play for life...because you can play a competitive game with other competitive golfers or you can easily play for fun with scratch golfers. Also, it's not like a competitive game of golf involves sprinting on the golf course...you can still walk leisurely (or now rent a cart) on the course. Honestly, it's hard to really be able to say that you are working out as a 50 year old because you continue to play golf.

Plenty of former tennis players don't play that often...plenty of former swimmers don't really swim in anything resembling training anymore..etc.

Lots of former basketball players still play basketball as adults. Not sure why you would think that isn't fairly popular for adults.


They don't swim or play tennis everyday but they do swim or play tennis regularly.

Golf and tennis are the two sports that you can play for life. As you get older, you can switch over to pickleball if tennis is too much for you. Golf and tennis are two of the sports that are objective and not subjective. The coach can not cut you from the team and put another inferior in the team because the scores do not lie. That being said, they are two of the hardest sports to make in high school, especially if you live in wealthy areas, and due to a small roster size.


Golf and tennis are two of the hardest HS sports to make? LOL! No.


You must go to a poor school


+1 That poster must had gone to a poor school.

Go to McLean, Langley or Oakton HS with almost 3000 students and looks at the roster of the tennis/golf teams. There are 10 players on the varsity golf team, I think. The chance of making the golf team is 10/3000, and just about everyone in those areas have $$$ to private training and coaching.


Isn't that the definition of not fair. Just to be clear. What does "private" mean private means not publicly available. So, by definition private training and coaching is not "fair", because not everyone has an opportunity. In this instance the unfairness is not due to some innate talent, but due economic and political station of those who can afford private coaching and training as well as just greens fees. EG it doesn't have anything to do with the sport as to why some kids get to make the team and others don't. It would be another if it was an innate talent or skill that could be acquired through common low-cost activities. EG go running get faster lift some weights get stronger. Shoot a basketball get better at shooting a basket.

Some team sports seem inexpensive eg soccer. Anyone can wear out a soccer ball, but there is a substantial component that has to be learned by interacting within a team. EG the MSI travel coaches' kids (paid coaches and private club owner not just parent coaches) were on my kid's team they felt very strongly that my kid should play defender, but she was the only one of the younger kids playing up a year to score a goal. One of the kids with, parent coach, started at striker nearly every game despite being older and didn't score a goal the entire season and was repeatedly tackled whenever they got the ball to her. Soccer they don't really care if they win. Soccer isn't so competitive here. It is generally run by private clubs and there is someone who will take your money, but I'm not paying for that.



That might be your definition of "unfair" but to others, someone who did nothing to achieve their height or stature (which is almost always an advantage) other than to have had tall parents, might be the definition of "unfair". In both cases the kid has no control over these factors (genetics and finances). In which case "fairness" is an illusion regarding sports. There is always going to be inherent unfairness because every kid has different genetics and HHI.


You have the right to an attorney, and if you can't afford an attorney, one will be appointed to represent you. There is a difference between "public defender" and "legal counsel" that the best money can buy, you understand that right?

It is like complaining about "unfair" for not being able to attend McLean high school when you live in Annandale, because you can't afford to buy a home in McLean, LOL....



School zones may have boundaries, not everything in life does. I would be more than happy to keep the kids from Potomac(that don't pay city taxes) with their private lessons, out of our city swim teams.
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