Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?

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Anonymous wrote:When we as a country and planet are inundated with dogs, when we know that hundreds of dogs are euthanized every day or left to languish in no kill shelter, Is it reputable to breed dogs because you want them to look a certain way? Or think they will act a certain way?
If breeders add even more dogs into society and charge people thousands of dollars to do so, and you consider that reputable, please share why.
And don’t say “ betterment of the breed” that’s just made up jargon by the AKC.

We're only inundated with pitbulls and other undesirables. I don't see any stray golden retriever puppies taking up space at the pound.

This. Pit bulls and beagle mixes. No thanks. The irresponsible people are the pit bull owners who don’t get their dogs fixed.

Not true you just need to widen your search. Petfinder is a great resource. Or look up rescue groups for the breed you want.

I'd rather deal with a breeder than a rescue group. The cost of the dog was worth avoiding the crazy

I think you bring the crazy with you, but okay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes

I personally believe that all domestic pet breeding should be banned by federal law and should apply to anyone who purposefully or “accidentally” breeds any domestic animal that is or can be kept as a pet.

Spoken by a true liberal who doesn't even understand the basics of state law and local ordinances versus federalism.

How is this opinion liberal? Leave politics out of this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.

This.
I would love to adopt from a shelter or rescue, as every dog I had in my childhood and young adulthood was a shelter dog. But I have 2 young children now, and our local shelters are full of pitt bulls and pit bull mixes, and that's pretty much it. I understand that they can be great dogs, but it is hard to tell a dog's temperament in a shelter environment, and I am aware that some of these shelters are incentivized to move these dogs along and my not be completely forthcoming about their history. I can't take that risk with my kids.
We are planning on working with a breeder...and I never thought I would go that route. But the shelters are absolutely overrun with pit bulls now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.

This.
I would love to adopt from a shelter or rescue, as every dog I had in my childhood and young adulthood was a shelter dog. But I have 2 young children now, and our local shelters are full of pitt bulls and pit bull mixes, and that's pretty much it. I understand that they can be great dogs, but it is hard to tell a dog's temperament in a shelter environment, and I am aware that some of these shelters are incentivized to move these dogs along and my not be completely forthcoming about their history. I can't take that risk with my kids.
We are planning on working with a breeder...and I never thought I would go that route. But the shelters are absolutely overrun with pit bulls now.

A friend adopted a dog and they did not know it was a pitt bull mix until they did genetic testing. Shelters and rescues should be required to do genetic testing. There are some other dogs but many look and are in very rough shape and who knows what trauma they have had.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.

This.
I would love to adopt from a shelter or rescue, as every dog I had in my childhood and young adulthood was a shelter dog. But I have 2 young children now, and our local shelters are full of pitt bulls and pit bull mixes, and that's pretty much it. I understand that they can be great dogs, but it is hard to tell a dog's temperament in a shelter environment, and I am aware that some of these shelters are incentivized to move these dogs along and my not be completely forthcoming about their history. I can't take that risk with my kids.
We are planning on working with a breeder...and I never thought I would go that route. But the shelters are absolutely overrun with pit bulls now.

I posted about this earlier as well. Everyone should have the right to pick the dog that is best for themselves and their family, be it from a reputable breeder or a rescue organization. These crazy rescue people need to understand that while many people are willing to roll the dice with a rescue dog, a family with young children may be much less likely to do so, and that is ok. I wish people could respect the choices of others, just like they'd want their own choices to be respected too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.

This.
I would love to adopt from a shelter or rescue, as every dog I had in my childhood and young adulthood was a shelter dog. But I have 2 young children now, and our local shelters are full of pitt bulls and pit bull mixes, and that's pretty much it. I understand that they can be great dogs, but it is hard to tell a dog's temperament in a shelter environment, and I am aware that some of these shelters are incentivized to move these dogs along and my not be completely forthcoming about their history. I can't take that risk with my kids.
We are planning on working with a breeder...and I never thought I would go that route. But the shelters are absolutely overrun with pit bulls now.

I posted about this earlier as well. Everyone should have the right to pick the dog that is best for themselves and their family, be it from a reputable breeder or a rescue organization. These crazy rescue people need to understand that while many people are willing to roll the dice with a rescue dog, a family with young children may be much less likely to do so, and that is ok. I wish people could respect the choices of others, just like they'd want their own choices to be respected too.

I wish you breeder people would understand that you are rolling the dice with a purebred, too. It's still a dog.

There's this pervasive stupidity that seems to imply "if it's not a pit bull, it'll be fine" and that's just idiotic.

If you are bringing an animal into a home with small children, you're rolling the dice. If you're getting a young dog from a breeder, it's still a young dog. That it's a purebred doesn't magically make it trained, or safe, or somehow not a dog. All dogs can bite.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.

This.
I would love to adopt from a shelter or rescue, as every dog I had in my childhood and young adulthood was a shelter dog. But I have 2 young children now, and our local shelters are full of pitt bulls and pit bull mixes, and that's pretty much it. I understand that they can be great dogs, but it is hard to tell a dog's temperament in a shelter environment, and I am aware that some of these shelters are incentivized to move these dogs along and my not be completely forthcoming about their history. I can't take that risk with my kids.
We are planning on working with a breeder...and I never thought I would go that route. But the shelters are absolutely overrun with pit bulls now.

A friend adopted a dog and they did not know it was a pitt bull mix until they did genetic testing. Shelters and rescues should be required to do genetic testing. There are some other dogs but many look and are in very rough shape and who knows what trauma they have had.

What would this prove? Those genetic tests are wildly inaccurate anyway, and "not a pit bull" isn't some magical stamp of safety for a dog.

But I guess you'd see it that way, if you're the sort of simpleton who thinks that any "pit bull" (not a breed) DNA is a problem just because.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.

This.
I would love to adopt from a shelter or rescue, as every dog I had in my childhood and young adulthood was a shelter dog. But I have 2 young children now, and our local shelters are full of pitt bulls and pit bull mixes, and that's pretty much it. I understand that they can be great dogs, but it is hard to tell a dog's temperament in a shelter environment, and I am aware that some of these shelters are incentivized to move these dogs along and my not be completely forthcoming about their history. I can't take that risk with my kids.
We are planning on working with a breeder...and I never thought I would go that route. But the shelters are absolutely overrun with pit bulls now.

I posted about this earlier as well. Everyone should have the right to pick the dog that is best for themselves and their family, be it from a reputable breeder or a rescue organization. These crazy rescue people need to understand that while many people are willing to roll the dice with a rescue dog, a family with young children may be much less likely to do so, and that is ok. I wish people could respect the choices of others, just like they'd want their own choices to be respected too.

I wish you breeder people would understand that you are rolling the dice with a purebred, too. It's still a dog.

There's this pervasive stupidity that seems to imply "if it's not a pit bull, it'll be fine" and that's just idiotic.

If you are bringing an animal into a home with small children, you're rolling the dice. If you're getting a young dog from a breeder, it's still a young dog. That it's a purebred doesn't magically make it trained, or safe, or somehow not a dog. All dogs can bite.

I'm the PP with young children who is looking into a breeder for the first time in my life, and I am fully aware of this. I was bitten by my aunt's full-bred, AKC-registered terrier as a child. That dog, though tiny, was a little monster that terrified me to the point I refused to visit her home. But that bite did fairly minor damage and didn't kill or severely maim me. Pit bull type dogs bite and lock on, and are far more responsible for deaths of small children than any other breed. And getting them out of a shelter around here virtually guarantees that you have absolutely no idea of their background. No thanks.

Throughout my life, my family/I have had multiple beagle/hound mixes, a basset hound, a German shepherd, and 2 Yorkies. All were shelter/rescue dogs, none of them came from breeders, so I'm not one of the "breeder people".

[Anonymous]

My dog doesn't look anything like a pittie. He doesn't act like the stereotypical (by the people like the idiot above who thinks their jaws lock) pit bull.

But I had him tested, and he's more pittie than anything else.

I do think shelters are right to require that adopted dogs be spayed/neutered, because there are just too many dogs. But I also think we should stop breeding anything brachycephalic breeds, because they have too many health problems. I get that we all love our dogs, but we shouldn't be sentencing dogs to potentially miserable lives because of our sentimental attachment to certain breeds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.

This.
I would love to adopt from a shelter or rescue, as every dog I had in my childhood and young adulthood was a shelter dog. But I have 2 young children now, and our local shelters are full of pitt bulls and pit bull mixes, and that's pretty much it. I understand that they can be great dogs, but it is hard to tell a dog's temperament in a shelter environment, and I am aware that some of these shelters are incentivized to move these dogs along and my not be completely forthcoming about their history. I can't take that risk with my kids.
We are planning on working with a breeder...and I never thought I would go that route. But the shelters are absolutely overrun with pit bulls now.

I posted about this earlier as well. Everyone should have the right to pick the dog that is best for themselves and their family, be it from a reputable breeder or a rescue organization. These crazy rescue people need to understand that while many people are willing to roll the dice with a rescue dog, a family with young children may be much less likely to do so, and that is ok. I wish people could respect the choices of others, just like they'd want their own choices to be respected too.

I wish you breeder people would understand that you are rolling the dice with a purebred, too. It's still a dog.

There's this pervasive stupidity that seems to imply "if it's not a pit bull, it'll be fine" and that's just idiotic.

If you are bringing an animal into a home with small children, you're rolling the dice. If you're getting a young dog from a breeder, it's still a young dog. That it's a purebred doesn't magically make it trained, or safe, or somehow not a dog. All dogs can bite.

Well, we got a specific breed from a breeder because it is known for being good with kids. We also wanted a puppy so it grew up within our chaotic house. She has been a great family dog and has never bitten anyone.

Our neighbor down the street got a pit bull mix from the shelter and it is muzzled on walks for what it is worth.

[Anonymous]

I for one, am glad you "no more dogs" people aren't anywhere close to being in charge and won't be anytime soon!

[Anonymous]

Not every breeder is some kind of industrial factory. The family that bred our poodle was headed by a mom who worked in a veterinarian's office and she does it like a hobby and only has like one litter a year. She keeps great records and raises these little guys in her own home and knows all about their temperaments and things. I think she is awesome!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My dog doesn't look anything like a pittie. He doesn't act like the stereotypical (by the people like the idiot above who thinks their jaws lock) pit bull.

But I had him tested, and he's more pittie than anything else.

I do think shelters are right to require that adopted dogs be spayed/neutered, because there are just too many dogs. But I also think we should stop breeding anything brachycephalic breeds, because they have too many health problems. I get that we all love our dogs, but we shouldn't be sentencing dogs to potentially miserable lives because of our sentimental attachment to certain breeds

I'm the PP that you think is an idiot. Try actually reading my post. I didn't say that their jaws lock. I said the dogs bite and lock on. As in, they instinctively hang on to their "prey". These dogs don't just bite and let go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.

This.
I would love to adopt from a shelter or rescue, as every dog I had in my childhood and young adulthood was a shelter dog. But I have 2 young children now, and our local shelters are full of pitt bulls and pit bull mixes, and that's pretty much it. I understand that they can be great dogs, but it is hard to tell a dog's temperament in a shelter environment, and I am aware that some of these shelters are incentivized to move these dogs along and my not be completely forthcoming about their history. I can't take that risk with my kids.
We are planning on working with a breeder...and I never thought I would go that route. But the shelters are absolutely overrun with pit bulls now.

I posted about this earlier as well. Everyone should have the right to pick the dog that is best for themselves and their family, be it from a reputable breeder or a rescue organization. These crazy rescue people need to understand that while many people are willing to roll the dice with a rescue dog, a family with young children may be much less likely to do so, and that is ok. I wish people could respect the choices of others, just like they'd want their own choices to be respected too.

I wish you breeder people would understand that you are rolling the dice with a purebred, too. It's still a dog.

There's this pervasive stupidity that seems to imply "if it's not a pit bull, it'll be fine" and that's just idiotic.

If you are bringing an animal into a home with small children, you're rolling the dice. If you're getting a young dog from a breeder, it's still a young dog. That it's a purebred doesn't magically make it trained, or safe, or somehow not a dog. All dogs can bite.

Well, we got a specific breed from a breeder because it is known for being good with kids. We also wanted a puppy so it grew up within our chaotic house. She has been a great family dog and has never bitten anyone.

Our neighbor down the street got a pit bull mix from the shelter and it is muzzled on walks for what it is worth.

Dogs are often muzzled to keep them from eating every freaking thing they find on the street, which shelter dogs that have lived without enough to eat are prone to doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My dog doesn't look anything like a pittie. He doesn't act like the stereotypical (by the people like the idiot above who thinks their jaws lock) pit bull.

But I had him tested, and he's more pittie than anything else.

I do think shelters are right to require that adopted dogs be spayed/neutered, because there are just too many dogs. But I also think we should stop breeding anything brachycephalic breeds, because they have too many health problems. I get that we all love our dogs, but we shouldn't be sentencing dogs to potentially miserable lives because of our sentimental attachment to certain breeds

I'm the PP that you think is an idiot. Try actually reading my post. I didn't say that their jaws lock. I said the dogs bite and lock on. As in, they instinctively hang on to their "prey". These dogs don't just bite and let go.

Maybe don't use the word "lock," then