EOC exams - are there more than biology and government for HS?

[Anonymous]

Actual student success should be the priority, not hoping the kids take the ridiculously frequent assessments seriously so MCPS curriculum department can look better in front of the BOE. Yet another example of the tail wagging the dog

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formal assessments are harder than typical assessments and are not retakable. For example, the Study Sync formal assessments that my kid took last year were much more challenging than the regular assessments, and the teacher couldn't return them (because they are the same each year) so we couldn't even figure out what our kid had gotten wrong. The regular quizzes were much easier. I'm not sure how it is when there is not a formal external curriculum (as in high school English and higher-level math), but for middle school and some high school math the district assessments are harder than the regular assessments.

Yes, my kid got a 7/14 on the honors pre-calc assessment. Kid works hard at math but needs a lot practice and got some delta math questions one day ahead, which was not enough time to study. Not happy about this and I expect my child will be very discouraged.

I'm sorry. It sounds like honors pre-calc is a really difficult class across all MCPS.

The class is hard, but he was doing ok with considerable effort. This ridiculous test was a bucket of cold water. In math, MCPS should be pushing practice and mastery - not the ability to do well on one minor but high-stakes test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formal assessments are harder than typical assessments and are not retakable. For example, the Study Sync formal assessments that my kid took last year were much more challenging than the regular assessments, and the teacher couldn't return them (because they are the same each year) so we couldn't even figure out what our kid had gotten wrong. The regular quizzes were much easier. I'm not sure how it is when there is not a formal external curriculum (as in high school English and higher-level math), but for middle school and some high school math the district assessments are harder than the regular assessments.

Yes, my kid got a 7/14 on the honors pre-calc assessment. Kid works hard at math but needs a lot practice and got some delta math questions one day ahead, which was not enough time to study. Not happy about this and I expect my child will be very discouraged.

I'm sorry. It sounds like honors pre-calc is a really difficult class across all MCPS.

The class is hard, but he was doing ok with considerable effort. This ridiculous test was a bucket of cold water. In math, MCPS should be pushing practice and mastery - not the ability to do well on one minor but high-stakes test.

OMG, this is ridiculous. Who to complain to about this? Taylor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formal assessments are harder than typical assessments and are not retakable. For example, the Study Sync formal assessments that my kid took last year were much more challenging than the regular assessments, and the teacher couldn't return them (because they are the same each year) so we couldn't even figure out what our kid had gotten wrong. The regular quizzes were much easier. I'm not sure how it is when there is not a formal external curriculum (as in high school English and higher-level math), but for middle school and some high school math the district assessments are harder than the regular assessments.

Yes, my kid got a 7/14 on the honors pre-calc assessment. Kid works hard at math but needs a lot practice and got some delta math questions one day ahead, which was not enough time to study. Not happy about this and I expect my child will be very discouraged.

I'm sorry. It sounds like honors pre-calc is a really difficult class across all MCPS.

The class is hard, but he was doing ok with considerable effort. This ridiculous test was a bucket of cold water. In math, MCPS should be pushing practice and mastery - not the ability to do well on one minor but high-stakes test.

The test is literally practice and mastery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formal assessments are harder than typical assessments and are not retakable. For example, the Study Sync formal assessments that my kid took last year were much more challenging than the regular assessments, and the teacher couldn't return them (because they are the same each year) so we couldn't even figure out what our kid had gotten wrong. The regular quizzes were much easier. I'm not sure how it is when there is not a formal external curriculum (as in high school English and higher-level math), but for middle school and some high school math the district assessments are harder than the regular assessments.

Yes, my kid got a 7/14 on the honors pre-calc assessment. Kid works hard at math but needs a lot practice and got some delta math questions one day ahead, which was not enough time to study. Not happy about this and I expect my child will be very discouraged.

I'm sorry. It sounds like honors pre-calc is a really difficult class across all MCPS.

The class is hard, but he was doing ok with considerable effort. This ridiculous test was a bucket of cold water. In math, MCPS should be pushing practice and mastery - not the ability to do well on one minor but high-stakes test.

Same for DC. That test was given with no notice, no preparation and DC failed despite doing fine on all the teacher tests. Come on MCPS! Either make sure teachers teach the curriculum or don't force this test without notice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formal assessments are harder than typical assessments and are not retakable. For example, the Study Sync formal assessments that my kid took last year were much more challenging than the regular assessments, and the teacher couldn't return them (because they are the same each year) so we couldn't even figure out what our kid had gotten wrong. The regular quizzes were much easier. I'm not sure how it is when there is not a formal external curriculum (as in high school English and higher-level math), but for middle school and some high school math the district assessments are harder than the regular assessments.

Yes, my kid got a 7/14 on the honors pre-calc assessment. Kid works hard at math but needs a lot practice and got some delta math questions one day ahead, which was not enough time to study. Not happy about this and I expect my child will be very discouraged.

I'm sorry. It sounds like honors pre-calc is a really difficult class across all MCPS.

The class is hard, but he was doing ok with considerable effort. This ridiculous test was a bucket of cold water. In math, MCPS should be pushing practice and mastery - not the ability to do well on one minor but high-stakes test.

Same for DC. That test was given with no notice, no preparation and DC failed despite doing fine on all the teacher tests. Come on MCPS! Either make sure teachers teach the curriculum or don't force this test without notice.

This is part of how they are ensuring that teachers are teaching the curriculum and giving students the appropriate level of challenge. When kids are getting A’s and B’s but failing the district assessment it becomes really clear that something needs to change quickly. Not to mention it’s an early indication of them not being to do well in state exams.

Teachers and Principals are responsible for delivery of content and ensuring students are gaining mastery. Central Office is responsible for verifying that this is happening for all students and providing necessary supports for schools to make it happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formal assessments are harder than typical assessments and are not retakable. For example, the Study Sync formal assessments that my kid took last year were much more challenging than the regular assessments, and the teacher couldn't return them (because they are the same each year) so we couldn't even figure out what our kid had gotten wrong. The regular quizzes were much easier. I'm not sure how it is when there is not a formal external curriculum (as in high school English and higher-level math), but for middle school and some high school math the district assessments are harder than the regular assessments.

Yes, my kid got a 7/14 on the honors pre-calc assessment. Kid works hard at math but needs a lot practice and got some delta math questions one day ahead, which was not enough time to study. Not happy about this and I expect my child will be very discouraged.

I'm sorry. It sounds like honors pre-calc is a really difficult class across all MCPS.

The class is hard, but he was doing ok with considerable effort. This ridiculous test was a bucket of cold water. In math, MCPS should be pushing practice and mastery - not the ability to do well on one minor but high-stakes test.

Same for DC. That test was given with no notice, no preparation and DC failed despite doing fine on all the teacher tests. Come on MCPS! Either make sure teachers teach the curriculum or don't force this test without notice.

Did the test cover content that wasn't in the curriculum?

[Anonymous]

It sounds like this is necessary to combat grade inflation. Teachers make the other assessments too easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formal assessments are harder than typical assessments and are not retakable. For example, the Study Sync formal assessments that my kid took last year were much more challenging than the regular assessments, and the teacher couldn't return them (because they are the same each year) so we couldn't even figure out what our kid had gotten wrong. The regular quizzes were much easier. I'm not sure how it is when there is not a formal external curriculum (as in high school English and higher-level math), but for middle school and some high school math the district assessments are harder than the regular assessments.

Yes, my kid got a 7/14 on the honors pre-calc assessment. Kid works hard at math but needs a lot practice and got some delta math questions one day ahead, which was not enough time to study. Not happy about this and I expect my child will be very discouraged.

I'm sorry. It sounds like honors pre-calc is a really difficult class across all MCPS.

The class is hard, but he was doing ok with considerable effort. This ridiculous test was a bucket of cold water. In math, MCPS should be pushing practice and mastery - not the ability to do well on one minor but high-stakes test.

Same for DC. That test was given with no notice, no preparation and DC failed despite doing fine on all the teacher tests. Come on MCPS! Either make sure teachers teach the curriculum or don't force this test without notice.

This is part of how they are ensuring that teachers are teaching the curriculum and giving students the appropriate level of challenge. When kids are getting A’s and B’s but failing the district assessment it becomes really clear that something needs to change quickly. Not to mention it’s an early indication of them not being to do well in state exams.

Teachers and Principals are responsible for delivery of content and ensuring students are gaining mastery. Central Office is responsible for verifying that this is happening for all students and providing necessary supports for schools to make it happen.

Yup!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formal assessments are harder than typical assessments and are not retakable. For example, the Study Sync formal assessments that my kid took last year were much more challenging than the regular assessments, and the teacher couldn't return them (because they are the same each year) so we couldn't even figure out what our kid had gotten wrong. The regular quizzes were much easier. I'm not sure how it is when there is not a formal external curriculum (as in high school English and higher-level math), but for middle school and some high school math the district assessments are harder than the regular assessments.

Yes, my kid got a 7/14 on the honors pre-calc assessment. Kid works hard at math but needs a lot practice and got some delta math questions one day ahead, which was not enough time to study. Not happy about this and I expect my child will be very discouraged.

I'm sorry. It sounds like honors pre-calc is a really difficult class across all MCPS.

The class is hard, but he was doing ok with considerable effort. This ridiculous test was a bucket of cold water. In math, MCPS should be pushing practice and mastery - not the ability to do well on one minor but high-stakes test.

The test is literally practice and mastery.

Yes, my students will often argue that it is unfair to have a few questions from previous units on assessments. So I'm supposed to allow them to take a test and then promptly forget everything they learned? Kind of sad that adults are also making this lame argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formal assessments are harder than typical assessments and are not retakable. For example, the Study Sync formal assessments that my kid took last year were much more challenging than the regular assessments, and the teacher couldn't return them (because they are the same each year) so we couldn't even figure out what our kid had gotten wrong. The regular quizzes were much easier. I'm not sure how it is when there is not a formal external curriculum (as in high school English and higher-level math), but for middle school and some high school math the district assessments are harder than the regular assessments.

Yes, my kid got a 7/14 on the honors pre-calc assessment. Kid works hard at math but needs a lot practice and got some delta math questions one day ahead, which was not enough time to study. Not happy about this and I expect my child will be very discouraged.

I'm sorry. It sounds like honors pre-calc is a really difficult class across all MCPS.

The class is hard, but he was doing ok with considerable effort. This ridiculous test was a bucket of cold water. In math, MCPS should be pushing practice and mastery - not the ability to do well on one minor but high-stakes test.

The test is literally practice and mastery.

Yes, my students will often argue that it is unfair to have a few questions from previous units on assessments. So I'm supposed to allow them to take a test and then promptly forget everything they learned? Kind of sad that adults are also making this lame argument.

As an adult, I would like teachers to give adequate information to the students so that they can prepare for the test. So, if you're having a test on Unit 5, for example, and you don't give notice that there might be content from outside unit 5, that does not allow adequate preparation. Just be clear that the text might contain content from earlier units, then ok. Tough luck, kid, if you did not take that seriously.