10 year old TJ student/author

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Anonymous wrote:Every single kid I know who was radically accelerated in math also started qualifying for AIME in 5th or 6th grade, perhaps also qualified for JMO in middle school, and did quite well in Mathcounts as well as other competitions. It seems odd to me when a kid is put forth as a math genius and in need of Calculus by age 12 or 13, but the kid doesn't seem to have any notable math accomplishments, aside from being so accelerated.

It's also possible that some kids are fabulous at rote learning, following algorithms, memorizing, and so on, but they're not extraordinary at deeper thought and analysis. For the most part, K-8 is a lot of memorizing and regurgitating, and not a lot of problem solving. Even in math, it's entirely possible to get straight As through pre-calculus by being good at applying standard algorithms without necessarily having a deep understanding of why the mathematics works the way it does. I bet most of the kids who are struggling at TJ would fit this profile.

No doubt she's very smart, but her "college credits" in Mandarin and math and science are what half of TJ also does at home and at Chinese Saturday school and at RSM/AoPS, but don't get "college credit" for their Discrete Math and Number Theory and Physics and Python classes because those schools aren't degree granting institutions.

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Anonymous wrote:The jealousy in these replies is insane. SOME KIDS ARE JUST SMART!

Some of us also have very high IQ children, but we allow them to have a normal childhood instead of pulling all the strings we can pull to get them in the spotlight like this. I think my DD and DS could have done all this crap too if my co-parent and I had spent all our free time scaffolding precocious achievements. Maybe some people think we failed them by not trotting them out and about as public prodigies. But my gut tells me my kids are happier as they are in our low-key family.

Based on her videos, she seems pretty happy. The family is also probably pulling in a decent amount of money from her book sales and media appearances. She'll likely get into a great college program due to her media presence. I wouldn't necessarily feel sorry for this girl and her family at all.

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As most of us educated adults on DCUM can attest.from personal experiencd, it's totally normal to pass the AP Calculus exam but not understand the material.

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Anonymous wrote:So well said by a PP above "parent manufactured genius child". This kid is nowhere close to what she is being projected to be - Its her Parents creating each post, book showing, science experiemtn, trip blah blah blah.. DD is in TJ and this kid seems to be failing miserably and seems to come across as pretty average / clueless when other kids speak with her. What is being projected and hyped by her parents in media is however altogether a different story.

Criticism and opinions based on verified public information are welcome, but it's very not cool to spread hearsay gossip about what your daughter says other kids say about some other named kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Every single kid I know who was radically accelerated in math also started qualifying for AIME in 5th or 6th grade, perhaps also qualified for JMO in middle school, and did quite well in Mathcounts as well as other competitions. It seems odd to me when a kid is put forth as a math genius and in need of Calculus by age 12 or 13, but the kid doesn't seem to have any notable math accomplishments, aside from being so accelerated.

It's also possible that some kids are fabulous at rote learning, following algorithms, memorizing, and so on, but they're not extraordinary at deeper thought and analysis. For the most part, K-8 is a lot of memorizing and regurgitating, and not a lot of problem solving. Even in math, it's entirely possible to get straight As through pre-calculus by being good at applying standard algorithms without necessarily having a deep understanding of why the mathematics works the way it does. I bet most of the kids who are struggling at TJ would fit this profile.

No doubt she's very smart, but her "college credits" in Mandarin and math and science are what half of TJ also does at home and at Chinese Saturday school and at RSM/AoPS, but don't get "college credit" for their Discrete Math and Number Theory and Physics and Python classes because those schools aren't degree granting institutions.

+1 Very on point.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The jealousy in these replies is insane. SOME KIDS ARE JUST SMART!

Some of us also have very high IQ children, but we allow them to have a normal childhood instead of pulling all the strings we can pull to get them in the spotlight like this. I think my DD and DS could have done all this crap too if my co-parent and I had spent all our free time scaffolding precocious achievements. Maybe some people think we failed them by not trotting them out and about as public prodigies. But my gut tells me my kids are happier as they are in our low-key family.

Based on her videos, she seems pretty happy. The family is also probably pulling in a decent amount of money from her book sales and media appearances. She'll likely get into a great college program due to her media presence. I wouldn't necessarily feel sorry for this girl and her family at all.

Agree - all this is, is just media presence to make money, by parents and her and hyping her to be way more than she genuinely is. Have seen smarter kids, who are down to earth

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An interesting observation - watch this kid speak in her vidoes where she is either reading off a script or sounds like a 5th grader. But see the captions on the Insta posts from all the book readings, science experiments, science fairs, news channels etc - all written deifnitely by the Mom - not this kid's language and vocabulary by any chance

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She's 11, I hope she cures cancer or invents a cold fusion generator, but what we have seen with these hyperprecocious kids is that they all end up smart but they level off and others catch up.

It's like that kid that hits 5' tall at 7 years old and is a star basketball player. They don't end up 12' tall, they usually end up being pretty tall but others catch up and they are frequently not star basketball players at the college level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every single kid I know who was radically accelerated in math also started qualifying for AIME in 5th or 6th grade, perhaps also qualified for JMO in middle school, and did quite well in Mathcounts as well as other competitions. It seems odd to me when a kid is put forth as a math genius and in need of Calculus by age 12 or 13, but the kid doesn't seem to have any notable math accomplishments, aside from being so accelerated.

It's also possible that some kids are fabulous at rote learning, following algorithms, memorizing, and so on, but they're not extraordinary at deeper thought and analysis. For the most part, K-8 is a lot of memorizing and regurgitating, and not a lot of problem solving. Even in math, it's entirely possible to get straight As through pre-calculus by being good at applying standard algorithms without necessarily having a deep understanding of why the mathematics works the way it does. I bet most of the kids who are struggling at TJ would fit this profile.

I know several true prodigies and they were very competitive to participate in IMO when they were in approximately 8th grade.

This student has children's book and some cookies as their crown achievements. She is also playing violin and piano. How well?

She doesn't have a profile of a prodigy.

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This topic irks me because I have a cousin, Larlo, who was pushed and prodded and propped up to look like a prodigy by my aunt and uncle. They did all the typical things like switching to private school to get grade skipped several times (publics wouldn't allow it), piano and violin lessons (not a musical prodigy tho), start a business (piggybacking off my uncle's real business), online degree at an early age, etc. My aunt and uncle were real snobs about the whole thing. Larlo has little to show for it now, he works an office job in local gov't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every single kid I know who was radically accelerated in math also started qualifying for AIME in 5th or 6th grade, perhaps also qualified for JMO in middle school, and did quite well in Mathcounts as well as other competitions. It seems odd to me when a kid is put forth as a math genius and in need of Calculus by age 12 or 13, but the kid doesn't seem to have any notable math accomplishments, aside from being so accelerated.

It's also possible that some kids are fabulous at rote learning, following algorithms, memorizing, and so on, but they're not extraordinary at deeper thought and analysis. For the most part, K-8 is a lot of memorizing and regurgitating, and not a lot of problem solving. Even in math, it's entirely possible to get straight As through pre-calculus by being good at applying standard algorithms without necessarily having a deep understanding of why the mathematics works the way it does. I bet most of the kids who are struggling at TJ would fit this profile.

I know several true prodigies and they were very competitive to participate in IMO when they were in approximately 8th grade.

This student has children's book and some cookies as their crown achievements. She is also playing violin and piano. How well?

She doesn't have a profile of a prodigy.

My kid is not quite a math prodigy, but is a AP Calc in 8th, AIME starting in late ES, JMO type. He also plays a string instrument. This girl appears to be playing mid Suzuki book two on violin after 5 years of playing. My kid is doing Suzuki book 10+, concertos (VBODA 6+), and is playing in an elite youth orchestra after 5 years of playing (practicing 45 minutes per day, so not a ton). Mine was around late Suzuki book 3 after 5 months of playing.

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Math, pattern recognition, and language abilities are the most reliable indicators of high IQ. Musical instrument proficiency is not.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol my first reaction was "All that talent being wasted on mealworm cookies that nobody wants to eat." (And yes, I do know that people in other countries do eat grubs.)

Too much of a tryhard. Not surprised to hear parents are scaffolding this.

+1

They must have a family member who works for the paper.

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She is bright and has a lot going for her. I hope that she is happy with the course her life has taken and that this is not mainly parental pressure and manipulation. But it feels like a rushed childhood with not much time for socialization and being a kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Math, pattern recognition, and language abilities are the most reliable indicators of high IQ. Musical instrument proficiency is not.

Learning music quickly is also an indicator of high IQ. I am not talking about playing chords on a guitar, but grasping musical theory. There is a lot of logic in music. It's not quite math but shares some similarities.