How HYP students and alum feel about the other Ivies

[Anonymous]

I went to an "HYP" (no one who graduates from these schools seriously uses this term IRL) and work at arguably the top firm in a very prestige-minded industry in New York City. The schools that I would consider "peers", give or take, are the rest of the Ivy League, Stanford, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, and maybe Berkeley. This is based off of decades in my field and working with and collaborating with a large cross-section of individuals with varying educational pedigrees.

But to be absolutely clear, there are smart people everywhere. And after a certain point, sheer competence and experience matter infinitely more than pedigree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Different double Yale couple here. We went to grad school at another Ivy. We would jokingly say the following but there’s truth in it:

-Princeton: we are superior to them but secretly worry that they are smarter, richer and probably had more fun than we did

-Harvard: weird try-hards who don’t have any fun and think they’re so great

-Dartmouth: a little jealous they’re still having more fun than us but relieved that we didn’t have to be in the snow the whole time

-Columbia: always forget about them. Their colors are the best.

-Cornell: there’s too many of them to stereotype but they all carry a sort of sad and desperate vibe

-Penn: used to be the back door to the Ivy League and we used to comfort ourselves that Philly was worse than New Haven. Now Penn and Philly both seem pretty appealing. Wide variety of people there and a cool place.

-Brown: spoiled rich kids who are oblivious to the world around them and their relative privilege, and I’m talking about both the alumni I know and current students

-MIT- book smarter and more Asian than us (and DH and I are very smart and very Asian) but otherwise kind of weird and forgettable

-Stanford- want everyone to believe they are the very smartest, but we remember when Stanford was as easy to get into as Cornell or Penn, and we also know way too much about their admissions standards for athletes

Wow. You are effed up with some outdated stereotypes.

It’s 2024, honey.

Yeah with acceptance rates of 3-5% and admin changed and shifts over the years these schools are very different today.

Btw, Yale is now known as the “weird” Ivy with emo students that don’t make eye contact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to an "HYP" (no one who graduates from these schools seriously uses this term IRL) and work at arguably the top firm in a very prestige-minded industry in New York City. The schools that I would consider "peers", give or take, are the rest of the Ivy League, Stanford, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, and maybe Berkeley. This is based off of decades in my field and working with and collaborating with a large cross-section of individuals with varying educational pedigrees.

But to be absolutely clear, there are smart people everywhere. And after a certain point, sheer competence and experience matter infinitely more than pedigree.

At every point*. There's really no incentive to hiring idiots from Harvard. We can get an idiot off the street.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Different double Yale couple here. We went to grad school at another Ivy. We would jokingly say the following but there’s truth in it:

-Princeton: we are superior to them but secretly worry that they are smarter, richer and probably had more fun than we did

-Harvard: weird try-hards who don’t have any fun and think they’re so great

-Dartmouth: a little jealous they’re still having more fun than us but relieved that we didn’t have to be in the snow the whole time

-Columbia: always forget about them. Their colors are the best.

-Cornell: there’s too many of them to stereotype but they all carry a sort of sad and desperate vibe

-Penn: used to be the back door to the Ivy League and we used to comfort ourselves that Philly was worse than New Haven. Now Penn and Philly both seem pretty appealing. Wide variety of people there and a cool place.

-Brown: spoiled rich kids who are oblivious to the world around them and their relative privilege, and I’m talking about both the alumni I know and current students

-MIT- book smarter and more Asian than us (and DH and I are very smart and very Asian) but otherwise kind of weird and forgettable

-Stanford- want everyone to believe they are the very smartest, but we remember when Stanford was as easy to get into as Cornell or Penn, and we also know way too much about their admissions standards for athletes

Wow. You are effed up with some outdated stereotypes.

It’s 2024, honey.

Yeah with acceptance rates of 3-5% and admin changed and shifts over the years these schools are very different today.

Btw, Yale is now known as the “weird” Ivy with emo students that don’t make eye contact.

No it is not. You might just be weird and misinformed? Or too invested in ivy leagues for your age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At Wharton we didn’t consider ourselves to have any outside college peers.

What about MIT? Your school's most alum is really proud of his family association with that school.

We hire them but they are not our peers.

They’re smarter

Salary says otherwise

I see someone didn’t get an Ivy degree for the education. What the hell does that have to do with intelligence?

At Wharton we really don’t care about the Ivy League. If you have a better measure of intelligence than compensation, let us know.

Maybe something like "Value added to society"? But that's another thread.

How do you quantify that? Perhaps the labor markets are already doing a good job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Different double Yale couple here. We went to grad school at another Ivy. We would jokingly say the following but there’s truth in it:

-Princeton: we are superior to them but secretly worry that they are smarter, richer and probably had more fun than we did

-Harvard: weird try-hards who don’t have any fun and think they’re so great

-Dartmouth: a little jealous they’re still having more fun than us but relieved that we didn’t have to be in the snow the whole time

-Columbia: always forget about them. Their colors are the best.

-Cornell: there’s too many of them to stereotype but they all carry a sort of sad and desperate vibe

-Penn: used to be the back door to the Ivy League and we used to comfort ourselves that Philly was worse than New Haven. Now Penn and Philly both seem pretty appealing. Wide variety of people there and a cool place.

-Brown: spoiled rich kids who are oblivious to the world around them and their relative privilege, and I’m talking about both the alumni I know and current students

-MIT- book smarter and more Asian than us (and DH and I are very smart and very Asian) but otherwise kind of weird and forgettable

-Stanford- want everyone to believe they are the very smartest, but we remember when Stanford was as easy to get into as Cornell or Penn, and we also know way too much about their admissions standards for athletes

Wow. You are effed up with some outdated stereotypes.

It’s 2024, honey.

Yeah with acceptance rates of 3-5% and admin changed and shifts over the years these schools are very different today.

Btw, Yale is now known as the “weird” Ivy with emo students that don’t make eye contact.

No it is not. You might just be weird and misinformed? Or too invested in ivy leagues for your age.

Perhaps ^ a weird non-eye contact weirdo herself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to an "HYP" (no one who graduates from these schools seriously uses this term IRL) and work at arguably the top firm in a very prestige-minded industry in New York City. The schools that I would consider "peers", give or take, are the rest of the Ivy League, Stanford, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, and maybe Berkeley. This is based off of decades in my field and working with and collaborating with a large cross-section of individuals with varying educational pedigrees.

But to be absolutely clear, there are smart people everywhere. And after a certain point, sheer competence and experience matter infinitely more than pedigree.

No MIT? In private equity (assuming you are too), with our incredible bias towards prestige, we have:

Tier 1a: Harvard, Wharton
Tier 1b: Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Duke, MIT, Stanford, Columbia
Tier 2a: Dyson, Ross, Stern, Chicago, Northwestern, Georgetown
Tier 2b: Brown, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Haas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Different double Yale couple here. We went to grad school at another Ivy. We would jokingly say the following but there’s truth in it:

-Princeton: we are superior to them but secretly worry that they are smarter, richer and probably had more fun than we did

-Harvard: weird try-hards who don’t have any fun and think they’re so great

-Dartmouth: a little jealous they’re still having more fun than us but relieved that we didn’t have to be in the snow the whole time

-Columbia: always forget about them. Their colors are the best.

-Cornell: there’s too many of them to stereotype but they all carry a sort of sad and desperate vibe

-Penn: used to be the back door to the Ivy League and we used to comfort ourselves that Philly was worse than New Haven. Now Penn and Philly both seem pretty appealing. Wide variety of people there and a cool place.

-Brown: spoiled rich kids who are oblivious to the world around them and their relative privilege, and I’m talking about both the alumni I know and current students

-MIT- book smarter and more Asian than us (and DH and I are very smart and very Asian) but otherwise kind of weird and forgettable

-Stanford- want everyone to believe they are the very smartest, but we remember when Stanford was as easy to get into as Cornell or Penn, and we also know way too much about their admissions standards for athletes

Ew. You make Yale look bad. This is so petty and dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Different double Yale couple here. We went to grad school at another Ivy. We would jokingly say the following but there’s truth in it:

-Princeton: we are superior to them but secretly worry that they are smarter, richer and probably had more fun than we did

-Harvard: weird try-hards who don’t have any fun and think they’re so great

-Dartmouth: a little jealous they’re still having more fun than us but relieved that we didn’t have to be in the snow the whole time

-Columbia: always forget about them. Their colors are the best.

-Cornell: there’s too many of them to stereotype but they all carry a sort of sad and desperate vibe

-Penn: used to be the back door to the Ivy League and we used to comfort ourselves that Philly was worse than New Haven. Now Penn and Philly both seem pretty appealing. Wide variety of people there and a cool place.

-Brown: spoiled rich kids who are oblivious to the world around them and their relative privilege, and I’m talking about both the alumni I know and current students

-MIT- book smarter and more Asian than us (and DH and I are very smart and very Asian) but otherwise kind of weird and forgettable

-Stanford- want everyone to believe they are the very smartest, but we remember when Stanford was as easy to get into as Cornell or Penn, and we also know way too much about their admissions standards for athletes

Wow. You are effed up with some outdated stereotypes.

It’s 2024, honey.

Yeah with acceptance rates of 3-5% and admin changed and shifts over the years these schools are very different today.

Btw, Yale is now known as the “weird” Ivy with emo students that don’t make eye contact.

No it is not. You might just be weird and misinformed? Or too invested in ivy leagues for your age.

Perhaps ^ a weird non-eye contact weirdo herself.

DP. Please tell me you two are not grads. This is so generic and juvenile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Different double Yale couple here. We went to grad school at another Ivy. We would jokingly say the following but there’s truth in it:

-Princeton: we are superior to them but secretly worry that they are smarter, richer and probably had more fun than we did

-Harvard: weird try-hards who don’t have any fun and think they’re so great

-Dartmouth: a little jealous they’re still having more fun than us but relieved that we didn’t have to be in the snow the whole time

-Columbia: always forget about them. Their colors are the best.

-Cornell: there’s too many of them to stereotype but they all carry a sort of sad and desperate vibe

-Penn: used to be the back door to the Ivy League and we used to comfort ourselves that Philly was worse than New Haven. Now Penn and Philly both seem pretty appealing. Wide variety of people there and a cool place.

-Brown: spoiled rich kids who are oblivious to the world around them and their relative privilege, and I’m talking about both the alumni I know and current students

-MIT- book smarter and more Asian than us (and DH and I are very smart and very Asian) but otherwise kind of weird and forgettable

-Stanford- want everyone to believe they are the very smartest, but we remember when Stanford was as easy to get into as Cornell or Penn, and we also know way too much about their admissions standards for athletes

Ew. You make Yale look bad. This is so petty and dumb.

It was a pretty dumb and petty question to start off with! Play dumb games, win dumb prizes.

I don’t know what you people expect, unless there’s a random Nova Cornell mom here dying to hear someone say “I went to Harvard but I think Cornell is the new Princeton and I put Cornell grads first on my list for new hires and see them as excellent and superior in all ways.”

We all know that all of these schools have stereotypes and people perceive them in different ways (which is literally what Op was asking for) and most schools mostly consist of students who are generally similar, basically won a random lottery to get in, and will be perfectly successful after they graduate.

PPs, either chill out and have some fun with this thread or go somewhere else if you’re going to split hairs about one Ivy vs. another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:we remember when Stanford was as easy to get into as Cornell or Penn

When was that exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to an "HYP" (no one who graduates from these schools seriously uses this term IRL) and work at arguably the top firm in a very prestige-minded industry in New York City. The schools that I would consider "peers", give or take, are the rest of the Ivy League, Stanford, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, and maybe Berkeley. This is based off of decades in my field and working with and collaborating with a large cross-section of individuals with varying educational pedigrees.

But to be absolutely clear, there are smart people everywhere. And after a certain point, sheer competence and experience matter infinitely more than pedigree.

No MIT? In private equity (assuming you are too), with our incredible bias towards prestige, we have:

Tier 1a: Harvard, Wharton
Tier 1b: Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Duke, MIT, Stanford, Columbia
Tier 2a: Dyson, Ross, Stern, Chicago, Northwestern, Georgetown
Tier 2b: Brown, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Haas

Dartmouth was historically really good but now it’s mostly nepo kids getting into PE

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to an "HYP" (no one who graduates from these schools seriously uses this term IRL) and work at arguably the top firm in a very prestige-minded industry in New York City. The schools that I would consider "peers", give or take, are the rest of the Ivy League, Stanford, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, and maybe Berkeley. This is based off of decades in my field and working with and collaborating with a large cross-section of individuals with varying educational pedigrees.

But to be absolutely clear, there are smart people everywhere. And after a certain point, sheer competence and experience matter infinitely more than pedigree.

No MIT? In private equity (assuming you are too), with our incredible bias towards prestige, we have:

Tier 1a: Harvard, Wharton
Tier 1b: Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Duke, MIT, Stanford, Columbia
Tier 2a: Dyson, Ross, Stern, Chicago, Northwestern, Georgetown
Tier 2b: Brown, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Haas

Dartmouth was historically really good but now it’s mostly nepo kids getting into PE

How awful. The econ bros in the mountain school are going into PRIVATE EQUITY

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Different double Yale couple here. We went to grad school at another Ivy. We would jokingly say the following but there’s truth in it:

-Princeton: we are superior to them but secretly worry that they are smarter, richer and probably had more fun than we did

-Harvard: weird try-hards who don’t have any fun and think they’re so great

-Dartmouth: a little jealous they’re still having more fun than us but relieved that we didn’t have to be in the snow the whole time

-Columbia: always forget about them. Their colors are the best.

-Cornell: there’s too many of them to stereotype but they all carry a sort of sad and desperate vibe

-Penn: used to be the back door to the Ivy League and we used to comfort ourselves that Philly was worse than New Haven. Now Penn and Philly both seem pretty appealing. Wide variety of people there and a cool place.

-Brown: spoiled rich kids who are oblivious to the world around them and their relative privilege, and I’m talking about both the alumni I know and current students

-MIT- book smarter and more Asian than us (and DH and I are very smart and very Asian) but otherwise kind of weird and forgettable

-Stanford- want everyone to believe they are the very smartest, but we remember when Stanford was as easy to get into as Cornell or Penn, and we also know way too much about their admissions standards for athletes

This is so cringe, and it doesn’t even align with stereotypes that have some basis in reality.

It does suggest there are some weird-ass Asian Yale graduates out there, though.

[Anonymous]

People here are no fun. The one yale couple's post was funny, not everything has to be so serious, my god.