No one mentioned the joint pain!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cut out sugar and alcohol completely and my joint paint disappeared.

For me no sugar, no alcohol, and limited processed foods=no pain.
Age 64 F

I really feel hand arthritis when I have sugary foods. No sugary foods=no pain.

Yeah, I started keto a week ago and can't believe how much better my joints feel already. I'm pre-diabetic and must have had inflammation when my blood sugar was higher. For me it wasn't just sugar, but pasta, bread. All the things I love, sigh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg. I was anti-HRT for myself because I was sailing through (11 months w/out a period). I turn 56 next month. Im very very active. I have exercised (cardio/lifting) 6 days a week my entire life, was a college soccer player, ran 6 marathons and I’ve never had knee, hip, back, etc pain. I walk an hour a day too…hot yoga, etc.

Then bam I started getting some hip pain, lower back pain and I thought it was an old mattress. New mattress- no change. Then a frozen shoulder out of nowhere. My entire body aches now and starting to interfere with my day to day. I know this is estrogen related. I’m running to get a patch—ASAP!

Estrogen withdrawal → joint & connective-tissue inflammation

When estrogen drops:
• Joint cartilage becomes less lubricated
• Tendons and capsules stiffen
• Inflammation increases
• Pain sensitivity rises

This is why many women describe menopause as “my body suddenly aged 10 years.”

Frozen shoulder (adhesive capsulitis)

Frozen shoulder is strongly associated with menopause, especially:
• Age 45–60
• Perimenopause / early menopause
• Sudden onset without injury

Good for you, PP. How is your sex drive. I am 54 and very physically active but for some reason, very low desire for sex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Barre and reformer Pilates helps me a ton with that.

Not me at 55. Pilates makes it worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg. I was anti-HRT for myself because I was sailing through (11 months w/out a period). I turn 56 next month. Im very very active. I have exercised (cardio/lifting) 6 days a week my entire life, was a college soccer player, ran 6 marathons and I’ve never had knee, hip, back, etc pain. I walk an hour a day too…hot yoga, etc.

Then bam I started getting some hip pain, lower back pain and I thought it was an old mattress. New mattress- no change. Then a frozen shoulder out of nowhere. My entire body aches now and starting to interfere with my day to day. I know this is estrogen related. I’m running to get a patch—ASAP!

Estrogen withdrawal → joint & connective-tissue inflammation

When estrogen drops:
• Joint cartilage becomes less lubricated
• Tendons and capsules stiffen
• Inflammation increases
• Pain sensitivity rises

This is why many women describe menopause as “my body suddenly aged 10 years.”

Frozen shoulder (adhesive capsulitis)

Frozen shoulder is strongly associated with menopause, especially:
• Age 45–60
• Perimenopause / early menopause
• Sudden onset without injury

Yes and none of us could stand you and all the other antis that blah blah about how they’re just exercising and eating right until it finally catches up with you. Estrogen will only partially help the muscular skeletal syndrome of menopause. Maybe if you feel like adding T to E and P.

Ummm. This is my very first post in this forum.

Maybe you need to up your dose of estrogen.

What would you know about it? You haven’t even had your first prescription.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg. I was anti-HRT for myself because I was sailing through (11 months w/out a period). I turn 56 next month. Im very very active. I have exercised (cardio/lifting) 6 days a week my entire life, was a college soccer player, ran 6 marathons and I’ve never had knee, hip, back, etc pain. I walk an hour a day too…hot yoga, etc.

Then bam I started getting some hip pain, lower back pain and I thought it was an old mattress. New mattress- no change. Then a frozen shoulder out of nowhere. My entire body aches now and starting to interfere with my day to day. I know this is estrogen related. I’m running to get a patch—ASAP!

Estrogen withdrawal → joint & connective-tissue inflammation

When estrogen drops:
• Joint cartilage becomes less lubricated
• Tendons and capsules stiffen
• Inflammation increases
• Pain sensitivity rises

This is why many women describe menopause as “my body suddenly aged 10 years.”

Frozen shoulder (adhesive capsulitis)

Frozen shoulder is strongly associated with menopause, especially:
• Age 45–60
• Perimenopause / early menopause
• Sudden onset without injury

Good for you, PP. How is your sex drive. I am 54 and very physically active but for some reason, very low desire for sex.

It’s zero. Dead down there. I’m also very physically active, in-shape.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t been alarmed by the horrible sleep, erratic cycle, or occasional rage days. I was prepared for those.

The joint pain, though? It wasn’t on most of the lists of symptoms I read before actually googling “perimenopause joint pain.”

I’m active and flexible, so it’s pretty unnerving to have hip and should pain.

I’m switching doctors to someone who specializes in menopause. I thought I was fine without meds, but maybe it’s time?

Have you had sports injuries in the past? Could be bursitis. It's not related to menopause, in as much as getting older is related to menopause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am 56. I was already on the lowest-dose of HRT when the bilateral (meaning, “couldn’t be that one old injury”), hip-to-foot joint stiffness manifested.

I doubled up my prescribed dose of HRT for a week or two — placing double patches, twice as frequently as prescribed. The pain 97% went away and I returned to baseline.

I told my menopause certified MD what I had done and requested an increased dose, which she agreed to do. I will not live like that and am willing to court an increased risk of certain cancers in order to maintain an optimal level of estrogen in my system so as to keep generalized 6 out of 10 joint pain at bay. Really.

I do walk about 4-5 miles a day, fwiw, which was a constant throughout this period. That’s how I immediately knew it was estrogen- related and not due to a sedentary lifestyle or similar

Chemo and radiation would be much more painful …

There are many causes of muscle and joint pain other than hormones and the relationship between hormones and pain is not clear. HRT shows only a very modest impact in the research and since it is such a common and varied complaint in aging (including among men) you need to rule out a lot of other causes first. If you aren’t doing weight lifting and really upping cardio you aren’t really trying.

For example I had terrible shoulder pain in my early 40s (frozen shoulder on both sides) and now zero pain in my early 50s after several years of real strength training and swimming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg. I was anti-HRT for myself because I was sailing through (11 months w/out a period). I turn 56 next month. Im very very active. I have exercised (cardio/lifting) 6 days a week my entire life, was a college soccer player, ran 6 marathons and I’ve never had knee, hip, back, etc pain. I walk an hour a day too…hot yoga, etc.

Then bam I started getting some hip pain, lower back pain and I thought it was an old mattress. New mattress- no change. Then a frozen shoulder out of nowhere. My entire body aches now and starting to interfere with my day to day. I know this is estrogen related. I’m running to get a patch—ASAP!

Estrogen withdrawal → joint & connective-tissue inflammation

When estrogen drops:
• Joint cartilage becomes less lubricated
• Tendons and capsules stiffen
• Inflammation increases
• Pain sensitivity rises

This is why many women describe menopause as “my body suddenly aged 10 years.”

Frozen shoulder (adhesive capsulitis)

Frozen shoulder is strongly associated with menopause, especially:
• Age 45–60
• Perimenopause / early menopause
• Sudden onset without injury

Good for you, PP. How is your sex drive. I am 54 and very physically active but for some reason, very low desire for sex.

It’s zero. Dead down there. I’m also very physically active, in-shape.

how old are you? I am 44F and low desire too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg. I was anti-HRT for myself because I was sailing through (11 months w/out a period). I turn 56 next month. Im very very active. I have exercised (cardio/lifting) 6 days a week my entire life, was a college soccer player, ran 6 marathons and I’ve never had knee, hip, back, etc pain. I walk an hour a day too…hot yoga, etc.

Then bam I started getting some hip pain, lower back pain and I thought it was an old mattress. New mattress- no change. Then a frozen shoulder out of nowhere. My entire body aches now and starting to interfere with my day to day. I know this is estrogen related. I’m running to get a patch—ASAP!

Estrogen withdrawal → joint & connective-tissue inflammation

When estrogen drops:
• Joint cartilage becomes less lubricated
• Tendons and capsules stiffen
• Inflammation increases
• Pain sensitivity rises

This is why many women describe menopause as “my body suddenly aged 10 years.”

Frozen shoulder (adhesive capsulitis)

Frozen shoulder is strongly associated with menopause, especially:
• Age 45–60
• Perimenopause / early menopause
• Sudden onset without injury

Good for you, PP. How is your sex drive. I am 54 and very physically active but for some reason, very low desire for sex.

It’s zero. Dead down there. I’m also very physically active, in-shape.

how old are you? I am 44F and low desire too.

56 next month but it’s been this way for years.

[Anonymous]

Join pain is not a normal symptom. I hope you contacted your PCP by now, Op!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Join pain is not a normal symptom. I hope you contacted your PCP by now, Op!!

It is in menopause, especially when it correlates with the start of menopause.

Mine started when I was 10 months without a period at 55. HRT- gone within a week.

It’s documented that low estrogen is the culprit (esp frozen shoulder) for menopausal women.

It was my only symptom- no hot flashes, sleep issues, brain fog, etc—just debilitating at times back and shoulder pain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg. I was anti-HRT for myself because I was sailing through (11 months w/out a period). I turn 56 next month. Im very very active. I have exercised (cardio/lifting) 6 days a week my entire life, was a college soccer player, ran 6 marathons and I’ve never had knee, hip, back, etc pain. I walk an hour a day too…hot yoga, etc.

Then bam I started getting some hip pain, lower back pain and I thought it was an old mattress. New mattress- no change. Then a frozen shoulder out of nowhere. My entire body aches now and starting to interfere with my day to day. I know this is estrogen related. I’m running to get a patch—ASAP!

Estrogen withdrawal → joint & connective-tissue inflammation

When estrogen drops:
• Joint cartilage becomes less lubricated
• Tendons and capsules stiffen
• Inflammation increases
• Pain sensitivity rises

This is why many women describe menopause as “my body suddenly aged 10 years.”

Frozen shoulder (adhesive capsulitis)

Frozen shoulder is strongly associated with menopause, especially:
• Age 45–60
• Perimenopause / early menopause
• Sudden onset without injury

Good for you, PP. How is your sex drive. I am 54 and very physically active but for some reason, very low desire for sex.

It’s zero. Dead down there. I’m also very physically active, in-shape.

how old are you? I am 44F and low desire too.

56 next month but it’s been this way for years.

How long you have not been sexually active for? In my case, it has been more than a year and no sexual activity. I am 44F

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Preach! I had a knee issue from a mix of running, HIIT and strength training 5 days a week so I took a break from that and did only yoga and walking for a few weeks. It was going well until I ended up with shoulder impingement/rotator cuff tendinitis and I just got a cortisone shot today. Interestingly, I read that estrogen plays a role in healing tendons so that explains a lot and I’m wondering if HRT would help.

This is one person so totally anecdotal but my knees were giving me trouble for the first time in my life during peri and going on HRT made a huge difference. No more hot flashes, no more knee pain.

[Anonymous]

This post is amazing. Have been struggling with frozen shoulder and joint pain. Very active. Doc wants to do a testosterone cream. Have others had luck with this reducing joint pain?

[Anonymous]

Could you start that as a new thread? This is a worthy question!