Sonya Massey: Monday Release of Footage

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The policeman who shot her is in jail without bail. Is there a purpose to your post?

I’d like to know how these clowns get hired as cops in the first place.

You can apply, they are hiring. I am sure you will be a better candidate.

[Anonymous]

First impression was that it was unjustified. The officer definitely put himself in a bad position.

But the problem with the video is that you can't really see what is happening at the time of the shooting. The view is blocked by the kitchen cabinets as she moves closer to the ground. If you look at the video closely, there is a large amount of steam/hot water very close to the officer less than a second after he fires. Did she drop the pot of boiling water after she was shot, or was she in the process of throwing the water at the officer?

[Anonymous]

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On Monday, police will release the footage showing Sonya Massey being shot in the face by police after calling 911 for help.

In a political environment that is so polarized, how will our nation's politicians address this murder?

I think it is for our judicial system to address this murder. Not for politicians.

There should be legislation in place that problematic cops fired from one department, cannot be fired into another.

This would have prevented this murder.

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We need a healthy and safe police force that protects all of us. I’m White. I’ve never had to worry about calling the police and I say on every one of these threads that that should be a basic tenet of modern society, not a privilege. It’s pretty clear that some laws need to be passed around policing and that oversight needs to be moved from within the force to outside of it.

For example: the Washington Post ran an article a month or so ago about all the police officers who sexually abuse children who are entrusted to their care. It was disgusting. Read it and literally weep, so many children broken by officers in whom trust, whether implicit in the basic relationship between officer and citizens or explicit as in sometimes the police were supposed to be acting as mentors, had been placed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2024/police-officers-child-sexual-abuse-in-america/?itid=mr_1

Eh. I mean, I understand implicit bias—but I don’t think that’s as big of a thing as the media narrative makes it out to be. Like, being afraid of calling the police specifically because you’re black.

I’m white and I am somewhat wary of calling the police—because you never know what kind of officer you’re going to get. And there’s quite a bug culture of “shoot first ask questions later”. Pretty sure when they do police training they drill that into you by showing recruits the dashcam video of a deputy pulling someone over without drawing his gun and calmly engaging him, only to be shot and killed.

Being white doesn’t protect you; ask Christian Glass, Hunter Brittain, Justine Damond, etc.

I think there just needs to be a bigger change in police culture.

I agree that there needs to be a change in police culture, but I still think there is a far bigger problem for Black people than for White, and my Black neighbors definitely have had different experiences with the police than I have and a far different relationship to the police than I do.

But yes, the police force needs to be fixed. I don’t know if you nosed through the link about police officers sexual abusing/assaulting children in their care, but it’s not a limited problem and just like Catholic priests before them, many of them simply moved to make the problem “go away” in one location. There needs to be oversight. There needs to be way more training.

They get plenty of training. The problem is WHAT they're being trained to do, and who they're being trained to see an their enemy. We need to rethink what policing should be, and reframe it as community support. Make protect and serve actually mean something again, and stop training officers to treat the populations they are entrusted to protect as their enemy.

A lot of these people get trained by the IDF: https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/with-whom-are-many-u-s-police-departments-training-with-a-chronic-human-rights-violator-israel/

That's a foreign military renowned for its human rights abuses.

Do you know exactly what the training entails?

What percent of cops do you think are trained by the IDF? lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This shows me that we need better screening of people that we allow to have law enforcement roles, and that we need better training for law enforcement.

It's astounding that after all that's happened, all of the LEO abuses, departments still haven't learned a damn thing.

You ever consider that the system is doing exactly as it was designed to do? Our police system was borne out of a desire to antagonize, terrorize, and control the Black population. That it continues to brutalized that population specifically should come as no surprise to anyone paying attention.

It's interesting that the vast majority of people who have this view are white liberals whose only experience in law enforcement is watching a lot of videos!

[Anonymous]

The event based on review by experts was not handled correctly. Among the improper actions was what I pointed out above, he told her to deal the the pot instead of doing it himself.

He also had a taser he could have used after that mistake. But even before the pot came up, they asked about her mental health, she said she took her medicne, at which point they could asked if she had family or a social worker to help her. Then after she is shot, it is 2 min before any attempt is made to render aid, grayson writes her off completely at first. E perts said he acted improperly, escalated the situation, then exhibited disregard for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cop: “get away.”
Lady: “get away from what?”
Cop: “get away from the hot steaming water.”
Lady: “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.”
Cop: “huh?”
Lady: “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.”
Cop: “you better not, I will shoot you in your mother f’n face.”
Lady: “ok, I’m sorry.”

I am sorry but you can’t not threaten to throw boiling water on someone as boiling water is in your hand. Yes, it was in her hand has she said it. She let go and hid as she said sorry. The cop gave multiple warnings. She continued on and took it as a joke. Now both of their lies are gone.

He told her to handle the pot. If he was concerned he should have just said please put the pot down and turn the stove off.

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Why did they even enter the home?

[Anonymous]

Was his partner cursing because he forgot to turn his camera off? Was this planned?

[Anonymous]

She was seemed to be on something BUT nothing to justify shooting her. Some cops are insane.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

On Monday, police will release the footage showing Sonya Massey being shot in the face by police after calling 911 for help.

In a political environment that is so polarized, how will our nation's politicians address this murder?

I think it is for our judicial system to address this murder. Not for politicians.

There should be legislation in place that problematic cops fired from one department, cannot be fired into another.

This would have prevented this murder.

+1

We need a healthy and safe police force that protects all of us. I’m White. I’ve never had to worry about calling the police and I say on every one of these threads that that should be a basic tenet of modern society, not a privilege. It’s pretty clear that some laws need to be passed around policing and that oversight needs to be moved from within the force to outside of it.

For example: the Washington Post ran an article a month or so ago about all the police officers who sexually abuse children who are entrusted to their care. It was disgusting. Read it and literally weep, so many children broken by officers in whom trust, whether implicit in the basic relationship between officer and citizens or explicit as in sometimes the police were supposed to be acting as mentors, had been placed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2024/police-officers-child-sexual-abuse-in-america/?itid=mr_1

Eh. I mean, I understand implicit bias—but I don’t think that’s as big of a thing as the media narrative makes it out to be. Like, being afraid of calling the police specifically because you’re black.

I’m white and I am somewhat wary of calling the police—because you never know what kind of officer you’re going to get. And there’s quite a bug culture of “shoot first ask questions later”. Pretty sure when they do police training they drill that into you by showing recruits the dashcam video of a deputy pulling someone over without drawing his gun and calmly engaging him, only to be shot and killed.

Being white doesn’t protect you; ask Christian Glass, Hunter Brittain, Justine Damond, etc.

I think there just needs to be a bigger change in police culture.

I agree that there needs to be a change in police culture, but I still think there is a far bigger problem for Black people than for White, and my Black neighbors definitely have had different experiences with the police than I have and a far different relationship to the police than I do.

But yes, the police force needs to be fixed. I don’t know if you nosed through the link about police officers sexual abusing/assaulting children in their care, but it’s not a limited problem and just like Catholic priests before them, many of them simply moved to make the problem “go away” in one location. There needs to be oversight. There needs to be way more training.

They get plenty of training. The problem is WHAT they're being trained to do, and who they're being trained to see an their enemy. We need to rethink what policing should be, and reframe it as community support. Make protect and serve actually mean something again, and stop training officers to treat the populations they are entrusted to protect as their enemy.

No, they don’t.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56834733

Police work is way too important to be treated like a joke, which is how it is treated in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The policeman who shot her is in jail without bail. Is there a purpose to your post?

I’d like to know how these clowns get hired as cops in the first place.

You can apply, they are hiring. I am sure you will be a better candidate.

You sound like one of those 🤡

[Anonymous]

I am sick and tired of seeing police officers over react.
I work in healthcare and patients do all sorts of things, especially when they are mentally ill. They throw feces, they pee on us, they vomit and bleed on us. Sometimes on purpose. I have yet to see a doctor or nurse reach for lethal force. But when we call security, the guards almost always over do it and slam the patients is a dangerous way.
I am sick of thugs. If this woman was going to throw hot water at him, by the time it reached him, he would have suffered minor injuries. But darn it, where is the taser? And why a shot to the head? They say shoot to kill, they do not say shoot and you MUST kill. If you want to justifiably kill someone, join the marines, NOT the police force.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why was he indicted for 1st degree murder? It wasn’t premeditated. I’d understand 2nd degree. He did seem like a hothead and used nothing he learned at the academy. He didn’t attempt to de-escalate; he didn’t attempt to use less than lethal; there was a counter in between them (there was no imminent danger); and as a nice touch, he had a skull tattoo on his arm.

I am suspicious about why they entered the house. If they found no prowler, they should have been on their way. I believe that the officer that shot had his camera off. The partner was probably cursing because he "forgot" to turn his off. They were up to no good. She didn't seem like an easy person to like and they had it out for her. They were looking to either arrest her or hurt her. That's not what she paid taxes for.

[Anonymous]

This is why I don't trust the police and I avoid them at all costs. Cops kill people and lie about it everyday in this country. Yet people still support them and talk about bad apples.
Absolutely sickening!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All she had to do was follow directions.

She did. She went to attend to the pot. Then when he went crazy (because HE didn’t take HIS meds) she apologized (for nothing) as she was putting the pot down. HE IS rebuked.