Sonya Massey: Monday Release of Footage

Anonymous
Did ya'll see the clips of the unedited video where she does in fact throw boiling water towards them? The media version doesn't show it but the real footage is her lifting that pot up towards her head and hurling the boiling water towards the cops. If you dont want to waste time looking for the clip, you can maybe get an idea that something happens because in the media clip the cop backs up like he got scared when he came in for a look over the counter. That back up in his step was reacting to the women coming up off the ground and lunging the pot towards him when he then fired his weapon at her. Should of tazed her i guess but water and boiling water tazed is also another lawsuit.
Anonymous
Can someone explain why she was boiling water and getting ready to throw it at the officer? Why did the situation escalate like this when she called the police asking for help? I’m tired of seeing these edited videos. Let the public see everything.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why she was boiling water and getting ready to throw it at the officer? Why did the situation escalate like this when she called the police asking for help? I’m tired of seeing these edited videos. Let the public see everything.


Yes, I’m struggling to follow the sequence of events.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did ya'll see the clips of the unedited video where she does in fact throw boiling water towards them? The media version doesn't show it but the real footage is her lifting that pot up towards her head and hurling the boiling water towards the cops. If you dont want to waste time looking for the clip, you can maybe get an idea that something happens because in the media clip the cop backs up like he got scared when he came in for a look over the counter. That back up in his step was reacting to the women coming up off the ground and lunging the pot towards him when he then fired his weapon at her. Should of tazed her i guess but water and boiling water tazed is also another lawsuit.

You are crazy AF, whst you are talking about does not exist.
Anonymous
Wow. Why are people trying to rationalize pre-meditated murder? Is this where we are now?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Why are people trying to rationalize pre-meditated murder? Is this where we are now?


Some people are so biased that they only see what they want to see.

Go look at the video frame by frame on an actual computer and you will see that its basically impossible to determine if she threw the water vs dropping the water after being shot.
Anonymous
Given how quickly he was arrested and charged I'm inclined to go along with law enforcement conclusions in doing so.

The sheriff, I think, was the one who said he was like someone who steps in front of a moving vehicle and claims the moving vehicle is why he had to shoot somebody. A civilian might not be charged in the same scenario, or maybe involuntary manslaughter, but the same law enforcement officers who are given some deference to their professional discretion do so because they are also supposed to carry out their duties professionally to begin with.

I saw a reference to an Army reprimand he received but no specifics. According to the Military Times he received a general discharge, meaning there was some deficiency, anyone know what it was?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Given how quickly he was arrested and charged I'm inclined to go along with law enforcement conclusions in doing so.

The sheriff, I think, was the one who said he was like someone who steps in front of a moving vehicle and claims the moving vehicle is why he had to shoot somebody. A civilian might not be charged in the same scenario, or maybe involuntary manslaughter, but the same law enforcement officers who are given some deference to their professional discretion do so because they are also supposed to carry out their duties professionally to begin with.

I saw a reference to an Army reprimand he received but no specifics. According to the Military Times he received a general discharge, meaning there was some deficiency, anyone know what it was?


Same PP. I saw upthread where someone posted an article that referenced his military discharge. One of his DUIs was while he was enlisted.

You can get discharged for a DUI but not necessarily.
https://www.army.mil/article/165772/how_a_dui_forever_changed_a_local_soldiers_career

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given how quickly he was arrested and charged I'm inclined to go along with law enforcement conclusions in doing so.

The sheriff, I think, was the one who said he was like someone who steps in front of a moving vehicle and claims the moving vehicle is why he had to shoot somebody. A civilian might not be charged in the same scenario, or maybe involuntary manslaughter, but the same law enforcement officers who are given some deference to their professional discretion do so because they are also supposed to carry out their duties professionally to begin with.

I saw a reference to an Army reprimand he received but no specifics. According to the Military Times he received a general discharge, meaning there was some deficiency, anyone know what it was?


Same PP. I saw upthread where someone posted an article that referenced his military discharge. One of his DUIs was while he was enlisted.

You can get discharged for a DUI but not necessarily.
https://www.army.mil/article/165772/how_a_dui_forever_changed_a_local_soldiers_career



This was insightful.

“ Anthony Ghiotto, a former Air Force prosecutor who now teaches law at the University of Illinois, said there are several reasons why a service member could receive this type of discharge in lieu of a court-martial proceeding or if the member commits a civilian infraction that can’t be disciplined through the military justice system.

Ghiotto said this kind of discharge suggests that Grayson committed an offense equivalent to something that would have led to at least a year of incarceration for a civilian.

“A good way of looking at it is, if it would be a misdemeanor in the civilian world, it’s not going to be a ‘serious offense,’” he said. He added it’s likely Grayson was not court-martialed.”

https://www.stlpr.org/law-order/2024-07-24/army-dismissed-deputy-accused-killing-sonya-massey-serious-misconduct
Anonymous
There's a fake video going around that uses AI. This guy is a live wire that shouldn't hold any position of authority let alone use a fire arm.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/27/us/sean-grayson-misconduct-sonya-massey-death/index.html
Anonymous
There is no way that you can look at that video and claim that she tried to throw the water at him. Her shoulders were turned away.
Anonymous
He was convicted of murder. Only up to 20 year sentence possible.
Anonymous
Grayson was sentenced to 20 years. His attorney asked for six years because Grayson has late stage colon cancer. Looks like he'll die in prison.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/former-illinois-deputy-convicted-killing-050536163.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Grayson was sentenced to 20 years. His attorney asked for six years because Grayson has late stage colon cancer. Looks like he'll die in prison.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/former-illinois-deputy-convicted-killing-050536163.html


Thank you for the update.
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