How do people not take better care of themselves?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah.

I'm so sick and tired of seeing so many obese and nasty looking citizens. Our people are very ugly and unattractive. Every time I go to Asia I never want to go back to the USA anymore because it is so unhealthy. The American people are just a sick population. Go to Asia and see how "thin" they are..I put thin in apostrophes because they aren't really thin at all, but are really jist normal sized humans that Americans used to look like in the 60s and 70s and even 80s. If you travel the world enough, you really get a sense of how awful American food is. I'm not just talking about restaurants, but even the supplies of food at the stores and the quality. All of our food is awful, from our chicken drowned in chlorine, to low quality oranges, to the hormone injected beef, to the god awful tasteless tomatoes covered in pesticides.

The entire lifestyle in America is awful as well. Drive everywhere. Massive portions of food that are really enough for 2.5 meals. Too many carbs, salt, fat, sugars, and preservatives in everything. Try traveling many parts of Asia and you will still see the 88 year old couple talking walks every night after dinner. No need to drive everywhere.. people walk everywhere most of the time. They consume way more seafood, plants, and fresh fruit and veggies, even for breakfast.

America is just a diseased nation with massively obese people. Gen Z is slated to be the fattest generation in history in which 50% of them will not just be overweight but OBESE.

So stay there?

Yup. Definitely planning on it. Already looking in how to buy and own property.

Have fun with your obesity in the US, your terrible food, and Trump, lolololol.

[Anonymous]

Why do you care?

[Anonymous]

The USA food system is sick, it is barely regulated compared to other developed nations and there are toxic levels of sugar, additives, seed oils, etc. in the ultra processed food that makes up 60-70% of the average American’s diet. Americans, despite being 70% overweight/obese (about half of each), are functionally malnourished because the diet is poor in micronutrients and fiber and heavy in sugar and saturated fats, which also cause gut dysbiosis. Without a significant amount of fiber in the diet, the gut doesn’t produce the short chain fatty acids that are critical to optimal health.

We could change it if there was political will. Michele Obama tried and then the system shut her down - and in fairness she acquiesced. Watch Fed Up to see how that unfolded.

Big Tobacco bought into the food industry heavily in the 1980s; they proceeded to engineer UPFs - ultra processed food products (they aren’t actually food, they are calories adhered to poison) - the same way they engineered nicotine content in cigarettes to addict smokers. Big Food addicts eaters - and we all have to eat, so we are all at risk of falling for junk because many of us don’t learn how to eat healthy either at home or school and unfettered advertising and industry friendly labeling laws don’t help us learn that the UPFs we are eating are POISON.

So yes Americans are chronically sick. And there is little incentive either in the business models of American medical system or Big Pharma (which just happens to be owned by the same multinational corporations that addict us to the food) to teach healthy habits and support them through life. All the incentive is in keeping us sick and selling us the medical procedures and drugs we wouldn’t need if we just changed what’s on the fork and how we spend our time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:8 hour working day, 2 hour commute, laundry, cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping, doctor / dentist / pediatrician appointments, get kids ready for school / preschool / daycare, drop off / pick up, help with homework, or just if lucky, maybe spend 30 minutes playing, or reading, depending on age, kids bath time, evening routine. Drop dead and rinse and repeat the next day. Add a sick grandparent, a divorce, an abusive or unhelpful or absent partner, a health condition, and basically, there is really zero opportunity for exercise.

I don’t know how you can go about life judging people from your own lens and circumstances, and priorities.

This. Most Americans don’t have the luxury of time or money. OP needs to gain perspective.

Exactly. I don’t have the time for a workout routine. I work 65 hour weeks, and I’m a parent. Even with my hours, I don’t make enough to hire a nanny or a house cleaner. I do it all: work, parent, clean, cook, chauffeur, tutor my kids, etc. There isn’t spare time in the day to have a structured exercise routine. So, in short, I live the life many Americans live.

OP, time is a commodity many of us don’t have.

If you spend 15-30 minutes watching TV every day, you could do sufficient weight training to make a significant difference in your health. While you watch TV.

[Anonymous]

It's our food supply. Learn a lot more before you judge. You can't, simply CAN'T, exercise away a diet of processed foods...foods that are intentionally designed to be addictive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's our food supply. Learn a lot more before you judge. You can't, simply CAN'T, exercise away a diet of processed foods...foods that are intentionally designed to be addictive.

Nonsense. People go on ozempic and eat exactly the same foods they ate before and drop the weight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's our food supply. Learn a lot more before you judge. You can't, simply CAN'T, exercise away a diet of processed foods...foods that are intentionally designed to be addictive.

Nonsense. People go on ozempic and eat exactly the same foods they ate before and drop the weight.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Workout routines” didn’t exist before the ‘80s or so. Only muscle heads went to gyms. And yet people were thin. There are lots of us out here who are very healthy and don’t have “workout routines.”

They smoked.
Portions were smaller.
Less fast food and soda.

Women definitely dieted, near starvation diets like grapefruit and eggs and there were things like Slimfast in the 60s. My sister drank something called Sego as a meal replacement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's our food supply. Learn a lot more before you judge. You can't, simply CAN'T, exercise away a diet of processed foods...foods that are intentionally designed to be addictive.

I mean this is true but how come everyone isn't fat then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with you, if they are at least middle class.Poor people often live in food deserts. It is also cheaper to eat processed food.

If you are middle class or higher, you should not be obese.

Tell me you know nothing about obesity . . .

Ozempic has proven that the so-called obesity epidemic is just people eating too much. When they simply eat less, the weight magically disappears.

Yes, but controlling cravings is what Ozempic and others do too. That is the difference. I'm on Zepbound and I do not think about food in the same way and I physically feel full sooner. To me, the cravings and thoughts about food have been the hardest part of controlling my intake. It's easy to control amounts for a while but the freedom from obsessing about food is what is different. If you don't have this problem, good for you but many people do. I don't know what caused it, but it was probably due to my upbringing or a tendency to addiction.

[Anonymous]

I’m going to go out at on a limb and say the people with canes at 30 may have more going on than being fat, and having mobility issues makes it really hard to lose weight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Workout routines” didn’t exist before the ‘80s or so. Only muscle heads went to gyms. And yet people were thin. There are lots of us out here who are very healthy and don’t have “workout routines.”

They smoked.
Portions were smaller.
Less fast food and soda.

Women definitely dieted, near starvation diets like grapefruit and eggs and there were things like Slimfast in the 60s. My sister drank something called Sego as a meal replacement.

Cabbage soup diet, anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to go out at on a limb and say the people with canes at 30 may have more going on than being fat, and having mobility issues makes it really hard to lose weight.

Thank you for being a sane person on a totally batshit thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Workout routines” didn’t exist before the ‘80s or so. Only muscle heads went to gyms. And yet people were thin. There are lots of us out here who are very healthy and don’t have “workout routines.”

They smoked.
Portions were smaller.
Less fast food and soda.

Women definitely dieted, near starvation diets like grapefruit and eggs and there were things like Slimfast in the 60s. My sister drank something called Sego as a meal replacement.

Cabbage soup diet, anyone?

Memories!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with you, if they are at least middle class.Poor people often live in food deserts. It is also cheaper to eat processed food.

If you are middle class or higher, you should not be obese.

Tell me you know nothing about obesity . . .

Ozempic has proven that the so-called obesity epidemic is just people eating too much. When they simply eat less, the weight magically disappears.

What a simplistic solution you’re giving.
Ozempic and other semuglutides are causing stomach paralysis among certain people. One of the side effects is blindness.
Obviously there are people who are tolerating well.
Good for them.
Being fat is a disease and is hereditary. Yes, there are people who are overeating and putting on weight. There are also those, like me, who eat under 1200 calories and can’t lose weight in the US as most food items are heavily processed and/ or genetically modified.
I’ve been overseas for 8 days, where I eat more, and so far have lost 6 lbs.
In a month I’ll lose no less than 30 lbs. unfortunately I’ll put all of it back on once I’m back even if I eat completely “clean” food.