So are the anti car people melting this week?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm somewhat anti-car in that I'd like to minimize the amount of driving. I've continued biking to work almost every day and took metro+bus once.

It's hot out, but bearable. I just shower when I get to work / home.

Now what can we do to reduce how hot it's going to get 10/20/50 years from now?

Most people don't have access to a shower at work. Parents have to drop off their kids at daycare then get themselves to work. Trying to do that without a car in 100 heat is horrible.

I thank God my kids are older teens, I wfh, and I have a car that has good working a/c.

Lots of offices in downtown DC have in building showers. If there's enough demand they'll make it a priority.

If you're within a few blocks of a DC pool and they're open that's an option for a shower.

There are also gyms where you can sign up to use the locker room / shower.

If you don't want to, no one is forcing you. But the more you drive the more you contribute to the problem.

It’s also possible to just change clothes and splash some water on your face. If you shower and put on deodorant before you leave, the amount of sweat from being outside on an average commute isn’t actually going to make you smell.

ew. No. Some people sweat a lot more than others. Also, lots of women wear makeup. You can't just splash some water on your face and be done.

As for showers, you people live in such a bubble. You realize that not everyone works in DC proper, right?

So go post on the DC exurban moms website I guess? I thought the focus here was urban.

lol so clueless, including who posts on this forum.

Your point is that places built around the use of a car are only conducive to use of a car? Thanks, I guess.

The OP asked about "anti-car" people (I'm interpreting that as people who don't regularly drive for their commute). Then you pipe in with "well that doesn't work for everyone". Ok, thanks?

Many in the burbs are also "anti-car" in that they are pushing for more public transport and less reliance on cars. MoCo being a perfect example. They just took out whole sections of the road for bike lanes. How many people are biking to work in this 100 heat? Even when it's 90 I hardly see people in those bike lanes. Such a waste and stupid planning.

You live in a bubble.

If you think that one section of bike lane makes it a bikeable area then you're the one with delusions. You just want to drive everywhere, so own that. And thanks for what you're doing to the environment.

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Anonymous wrote:When it’s this hot I often skip the 1/2 mile walk to the metro in favor of taking the bus to the metro. Feels a little silly taking the bus for 1-2 stops but that’s better than getting super sweaty.

You still have to wait outside in the heat for the bus, not to mention walk to the bus stop. In some cases, the nearest bus stop can be half a mile.

Guess what - it’s possible to be outside for 30 minuted even in the heat.

If you stand completely still in the shade, maybe. But unless you live like 3 doors down from the bus stop, it's pretty dang hot to walk half a mile in 80+ degree heat with your work clothes on.

If you have to take work clothes with you and shower once you get to the office, you are adding more commute time. I guess if you have all the time in the world in the morning that works for you. But, a lot of parents are crunched for time in the morning trying to get their kids to summer camps/daycare and get to work on time.

DP. There are definitely a lot of people for whom commuting in bad weather is especially difficult, for many reasons. But definitely for the average D.C. office type — and especially if you're a man who doesn't have to worry about makeup or doing your hair — walking a half-mile in your work clothes in the heat is just not a problem. (Especially if your work clothes are just "business casual.") I was a little sweaty when I arrived at the office yesterday morning after a .6-mile walk from Metro. Within 30 minutes of arriving, you wouldn't have known. I was significantly sweatier when I got to Metro on the return trip, because it was hotter out when I left the office, but by then, who cared? I was just going home.

I could have driven — we have two cars — but it didn't seem remotely necessary to me. I did drive to pick my kid up at camp in the afternoon (my wife did the drop-off in the morning because she was working from home yesterday), because camp isn't anywhere near Metro this week.

Both the advocates for driving less and the die-hard drivers ought to do a better job of realizing that their own situations and needs are not at all universal. Some people think they have to drive all the time, or especially when it's 101 degrees. Great! Drive. That doesn't mean it's inconceivable for other people not to drive. Same thing with people who only bike to work all the time. Great! Bike to work. A lot of other people aren't going to be able to.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems pretty inconsistent (and by inconsistent I mean laughably hypocritical) to be anti-car and then take advantage of rideshare services and home delivery.

I mean, if you’re anti-car, you have to live ot 24/7/365 - not just when the weather suits you.

lol. when i say i'm anti car, i'm just anti-personal car for everything 24/7/365. i mean do the pro-car people want to ban me from walking down the block to get a snack or take a flight to see my family in florida? do they expect me to drive to all of those things? ugh - could you imagine being on I-95 for that long?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm somewhat anti-car in that I'd like to minimize the amount of driving. I've continued biking to work almost every day and took metro+bus once.

It's hot out, but bearable. I just shower when I get to work / home.

Now what can we do to reduce how hot it's going to get 10/20/50 years from now?

Most people don't have access to a shower at work. Parents have to drop off their kids at daycare then get themselves to work. Trying to do that without a car in 100 heat is horrible.

I thank God my kids are older teens, I wfh, and I have a car that has good working a/c.

Lots of offices in downtown DC have in building showers. If there's enough demand they'll make it a priority.

If you're within a few blocks of a DC pool and they're open that's an option for a shower.

There are also gyms where you can sign up to use the locker room / shower.

If you don't want to, no one is forcing you. But the more you drive the more you contribute to the problem.

It’s also possible to just change clothes and splash some water on your face. If you shower and put on deodorant before you leave, the amount of sweat from being outside on an average commute isn’t actually going to make you smell.

ew. No. Some people sweat a lot more than others. Also, lots of women wear makeup. You can't just splash some water on your face and be done.

As for showers, you people live in such a bubble. You realize that not everyone works in DC proper, right?

So go post on the DC exurban moms website I guess? I thought the focus here was urban.

lol so clueless, including who posts on this forum.

Your point is that places built around the use of a car are only conducive to use of a car? Thanks, I guess.

The OP asked about "anti-car" people (I'm interpreting that as people who don't regularly drive for their commute). Then you pipe in with "well that doesn't work for everyone". Ok, thanks?

Many in the burbs are also "anti-car" in that they are pushing for more public transport and less reliance on cars. MoCo being a perfect example. They just took out whole sections of the road for bike lanes. How many people are biking to work in this 100 heat? Even when it's 90 I hardly see people in those bike lanes. Such a waste and stupid planning.

You live in a bubble.

If you think that one section of bike lane makes it a bikeable area then you're the one with delusions. You just want to drive everywhere, so own that. And thanks for what you're doing to the environment.

Then you agree that one bike lane was unnecessary, right? Yes, I would prefer to drive everywhere when it's 100 degrees outside with 80% humidity.

How many times have you flown in the past few years? Do you take family vacations where you fly? That is worse than driving, btw.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm somewhat anti-car in that I'd like to minimize the amount of driving. I've continued biking to work almost every day and took metro+bus once.

It's hot out, but bearable. I just shower when I get to work / home.

Now what can we do to reduce how hot it's going to get 10/20/50 years from now?

Most people don't have access to a shower at work. Parents have to drop off their kids at daycare then get themselves to work. Trying to do that without a car in 100 heat is horrible.

I thank God my kids are older teens, I wfh, and I have a car that has good working a/c.

Lots of offices in downtown DC have in building showers. If there's enough demand they'll make it a priority.

If you're within a few blocks of a DC pool and they're open that's an option for a shower.

There are also gyms where you can sign up to use the locker room / shower.

If you don't want to, no one is forcing you. But the more you drive the more you contribute to the problem.

It’s also possible to just change clothes and splash some water on your face. If you shower and put on deodorant before you leave, the amount of sweat from being outside on an average commute isn’t actually going to make you smell.

ew. No. Some people sweat a lot more than others. Also, lots of women wear makeup. You can't just splash some water on your face and be done.

As for showers, you people live in such a bubble. You realize that not everyone works in DC proper, right?

So go post on the DC exurban moms website I guess? I thought the focus here was urban.

lol so clueless, including who posts on this forum.

Your point is that places built around the use of a car are only conducive to use of a car? Thanks, I guess.

The OP asked about "anti-car" people (I'm interpreting that as people who don't regularly drive for their commute). Then you pipe in with "well that doesn't work for everyone". Ok, thanks?

Many in the burbs are also "anti-car" in that they are pushing for more public transport and less reliance on cars. MoCo being a perfect example. They just took out whole sections of the road for bike lanes. How many people are biking to work in this 100 heat? Even when it's 90 I hardly see people in those bike lanes. Such a waste and stupid planning.

You live in a bubble.

If you think that one section of bike lane makes it a bikeable area then you're the one with delusions. You just want to drive everywhere, so own that. And thanks for what you're doing to the environment.

Then you agree that one bike lane was unnecessary, right? Yes, I would prefer to drive everywhere when it's 100 degrees outside with 80% humidity.

How many times have you flown in the past few years? Do you take family vacations where you fly? That is worse than driving, btw.

Trying to reduce your personal carbon footprint doesn't require you to forego flying, any more than it requires you to forego electricity. Why would it be better for people who do fly for vacations to also just throw their hands up and say, well, I got on a plane, so I may as well drive everywhere? You can take whatever measures you're able to, and that's better for the climate than doing absolutely nothing is.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm somewhat anti-car in that I'd like to minimize the amount of driving. I've continued biking to work almost every day and took metro+bus once.

It's hot out, but bearable. I just shower when I get to work / home.

Now what can we do to reduce how hot it's going to get 10/20/50 years from now?

Most people don't have access to a shower at work. Parents have to drop off their kids at daycare then get themselves to work. Trying to do that without a car in 100 heat is horrible.

I thank God my kids are older teens, I wfh, and I have a car that has good working a/c.

Lots of offices in downtown DC have in building showers. If there's enough demand they'll make it a priority.

If you're within a few blocks of a DC pool and they're open that's an option for a shower.

There are also gyms where you can sign up to use the locker room / shower.

If you don't want to, no one is forcing you. But the more you drive the more you contribute to the problem.

It’s also possible to just change clothes and splash some water on your face. If you shower and put on deodorant before you leave, the amount of sweat from being outside on an average commute isn’t actually going to make you smell.

ew. No. Some people sweat a lot more than others. Also, lots of women wear makeup. You can't just splash some water on your face and be done.

As for showers, you people live in such a bubble. You realize that not everyone works in DC proper, right?

So go post on the DC exurban moms website I guess? I thought the focus here was urban.

lol so clueless, including who posts on this forum.

Your point is that places built around the use of a car are only conducive to use of a car? Thanks, I guess.

The OP asked about "anti-car" people (I'm interpreting that as people who don't regularly drive for their commute). Then you pipe in with "well that doesn't work for everyone". Ok, thanks?

Many in the burbs are also "anti-car" in that they are pushing for more public transport and less reliance on cars. MoCo being a perfect example. They just took out whole sections of the road for bike lanes. How many people are biking to work in this 100 heat? Even when it's 90 I hardly see people in those bike lanes. Such a waste and stupid planning.

You live in a bubble.

If you think that one section of bike lane makes it a bikeable area then you're the one with delusions. You just want to drive everywhere, so own that. And thanks for what you're doing to the environment.

Then you agree that one bike lane was unnecessary, right? Yes, I would prefer to drive everywhere when it's 100 degrees outside with 80% humidity.

How many times have you flown in the past few years? Do you take family vacations where you fly? That is worse than driving, btw.

Your preferences are making it hotter for the rest of the world. And at the same time you're crapping on people who are at least trying to do better.