John Fetterman is no longer a progressive

[Anonymous]

Reverting to his roots in small town Pennsylvania.

He did definitely campaign as a progressive or gave off that vibe, which helped him win the D primary in PA. He was also extremely lucky the Rs nominated a spectacularly weak R candidate against him who wasn't even from Pennsylvania! He was also made even luckier in that the media establishment closed ranks behind him and did everything they could to hide the true extent of his stroke and stroke damage.

Fetterman was lucky to have won an election that against a normal R candidate he'd likely have lost. But he won, not because of any endorsement of his campaign's progressive claims but because people rejected the even more wacky R candidate.

The irony, perhaps, is that since the stroke Fetterman has politically shifted to the center of Pennsylvania. So he is actually now much more representative of moderate blue dog Democratic Pennsylvania politics.

[Anonymous]

Maybe John Fetterman, like the majority of all Americans judging by poll numbers, has grown tired of your bullsh*t? Just a thought? Perhaps Progressives should read the room, read the tea leaves, etc, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

Wait........no comment about this???????

Also disgusting ... just as disgusting.

DP. I don’t recall anyone declaring the ubiquitous Ukraine flags as disgusting, ever.

Probably because Ukraine doesn't kill kids and commit genocide like Israel does. Use some common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you imagine defending any other member of the U.S. Congress (or really, any federal employee) who climbs to the roof of their home to erratically wave the 5x7’ flag of a foreign state like his life depends on the act?

It’s bizarre that so many people just go along like zombies with the current insanity of foreign interference in U.S. politics, but only insofar as it’s just one country.

Some idiotic protestors showed up to his house in the middle of the night while his kids were sleeping, blaring lights & sirens. He trolled the protestors by waving an Israeli flag at them.

https://x.com/ScottJenningsKY/status/1751088867401158729

Come on, he knows the Art of the Troll. That's how you do it.

He and Martha-Ann Alito sound alike. But democrats hate it when women get out of pocket.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

Wait........no comment about this???????

Also disgusting ... just as disgusting.

DP. I don’t recall anyone declaring the ubiquitous Ukraine flags as disgusting, ever.

Probably because Ukraine doesn't kill kids and commit genocide like Israel does. Use some common sense.

Follow the thread plz. That wasn’t wasn’t that PP was asserting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The three close friends/family members in my circle who are ardent Trump supporters all have some form of mental incapacity, so I get jeff's point.

I have no qualms with Jeff's quip other than he called Fetterman a "conservative."

But really, I do not see Fetterman as a conservative. He's a pro-labor Democrat, which has always turned a skeptical eye toward immigration and free trade. Fetterman is stridently pro-Israel, which makes sense given his nearby constituency in Pittsburgh and the shocking Tree of Life massacre. Radicalized Islamic terrorism is a cancer to anyone who wants to uphold liberal values and society.

Fetterman is still strongly supportive of LBGTQ folks and legalization of marijuana. Vociferously supports a woman's right to choose. He also strongly supports fracking, which makes sense given the importance to the local economy of western PA.

So yeah, he's not a typical Democrat. But that's OK. He's his own person.

He also has a large Jewish population in Philadelphia. We like Fetterman.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

Wait........no comment about this???????

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Of course not - "that's dIfFeReNt!!!"
DP

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Anonymous wrote:He was in a car accident today......

I’m sure Jeff is pleased. We now know what kind of person he is…

As usual, taking something reasonable and because it doesn't prostrate at the feet of your own ideology, characterizing it as something grotesque ... thankfully, those like you cannot hide any more - everyone sees the corruption you stoke.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

Wait........no comment about this???????

Also disgusting ... just as disgusting.

DP. I don’t recall anyone declaring the ubiquitous Ukraine flags as disgusting, ever.

Probably because Ukraine doesn't kill kids and commit genocide like Israel does. Use some common sense.

Follow the thread plz. That wasn’t wasn’t that PP was asserting.

Yeah, except the PP immediately - immediately - characterized the waving of the Ukrainian flag in the exact same way that they characterized the wearing of U.S. / Israeli flags on the lapels of members of the U.S. congress, after which they were told that nobody did that. Other than the fact they had just done so. But nobody did that. Except they did. Ad nauseam.

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Anonymous wrote:He was in a car accident today......

I’m sure Jeff is pleased. We now know what kind of person he is…

As usual, taking something reasonable and because it doesn't prostrate at the feet of your own ideology, characterizing it as something grotesque ... thankfully, those like you cannot hide any more - everyone sees the corruption you stoke.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about?

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

Wait........no comment about this???????

Also disgusting ... just as disgusting.

DP. I don’t recall anyone declaring the ubiquitous Ukraine flags as disgusting, ever.

Probably because Ukraine doesn't kill kids and commit genocide like Israel does. Use some common sense.

Follow the thread plz. That wasn’t wasn’t that PP was asserting.

Yeah, except the PP immediately - immediately - characterized the waving of the Ukrainian flag in the exact same way that they characterized the wearing of U.S. / Israeli flags on the lapels of members of the U.S. congress, after which they were told that nobody did that. Other than the fact they had just done so. But nobody did that. Except they did. Ad nauseam.

DP. Are you absolutely sure about that? Because you are very wrong.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ukrainian-support-full-display-state-union/story?id=83184581
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-16-22#h_79b163e61ec7fa08bc8cca01f3442c70
https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/zelenskyy-presents-flag-of-ukraine-to-congress-receives-u-s-flag-flown-over-capitol-158395461894

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

Wait........no comment about this???????

Also disgusting ... just as disgusting.

DP. I don’t recall anyone declaring the ubiquitous Ukraine flags as disgusting, ever.

Probably because Ukraine doesn't kill kids and commit genocide like Israel does. Use some common sense.

Follow the thread plz. That wasn’t wasn’t that PP was asserting.

Yeah, except the PP immediately - immediately - characterized the waving of the Ukrainian flag in the exact same way that they characterized the wearing of U.S. / Israeli flags on the lapels of members of the U.S. congress, after which they were told that nobody did that. Other than the fact they had just done so. But nobody did that. Except they did. Ad nauseam.

Do you understand the difference between claiming something as “disgusting” in this thread when called out on hypocrisy vs at the time it happened?

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Anonymous wrote:Meh…he was a progressive until it came down to his homeland and then he changed his tune pretty quickly. No surprise here. His loyalty isn’t to the values of Democratic Party, first and foremost his loyalty is to Israel.

He's not Jewish.

Have you seen the line of American politicians waiting to go to Israel and kiss Netanyahu’s ring? He doesn’t have to be Jewish for being a pro Israeli.

The fact that we have hundreds of U.S. congressmen and congresswomen wearing lapel pins that literally bind the U.S. to the State of Israel - to say it feels like a fever dream would be to vastly understate how far our system has gone off course.

Wait........no comment about this???????

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Of course not - "that's dIfFeReNt!!!"
DP

There is a difference between showing support of Ukraine's self defense vs. support of Israel's mass starvation and genocide. Use your common sense.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:Dude suffers brain damage. Becomes a conservative. Adds up.

Are you mad at AOC as well because she chooses to be a pragmatist and not a burn it all down progressive?

Of course not. AOC hasn't backstabbed her former supporters. She still respects those who helped get her elected. She is being pragmatic in an effort to get things done. Fetterman is simply burning bridges for the fun of it and with no plan to accomplish anything other than self promotion. He may find some success as a useful idiot in the schemes of others, but he will never be a leader of AOC's caliber.

He's out there supporting Biden, something Rashida Talib isn't doing. I may not agree with everything but he's on the right side of democracy. When Talib stops telling voters to stay home or Pramilla stops equating Biden with Trump then I'll listen to them.

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Anonymous wrote:He was in a car accident today......

I’m sure Jeff is pleased. We now know what kind of person he is…

As usual, taking something reasonable and because it doesn't prostrate at the feet of your own ideology, characterizing it as something grotesque ... thankfully, those like you cannot hide any more - everyone sees the corruption you stoke.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about?

Here's the Reading 4 Dummies translation:

You have taken something Jeff said, which happens to reflect the facts on the ground, and suggested that he's a bad guy (for having said so). That truth apparently doesn't align with the "Bow down to Israel or else!" and/or the "Bow down to conservatism of else!" corruption that's at the center of your ideology. Thankfully, this ME conflict has brought to light so many inconvenient facts (for you), most of them related to how U.S. domestic and foreign policies consistently and recklessly place foreign interests over our own here in the U.S.