Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

[Anonymous]

I’m struggling to believe some of the antidotal stories.

DC is an incoming freshmen student at UMich. Registration began this week. DC registered yesterday. He had no problem registering for the classes he wanted. CoE if that matters.

[Anonymous]

Lots of complaining at our kid's large public school regarding class registration but our rising
senior has never had an issue. Same story for second kid, also at a public university. They are willing to take early morning classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My neighbor has a crazy sorry about first year students showing up at BU and not having housing. They were eventually put up at hotels. This was only a few years ago.

This happened at VT too in 2019. It sucks but it happens everywhere. Some large schools have done partnerships with private companies that operate private freshmen dorms.

https://www.newsleader.com/story/news/2019/08/25/virginia-techs-dorms-overflow-putting-some-freshman-hotels/2117887001/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m struggling to believe some of the antidotal stories.

DC is an incoming freshmen student at UMich. Registration began this week. DC registered yesterday. He had no problem registering for the classes he wanted. CoE if that matters.

Story about freshmen dorms at UCLA is true. DC is a student there and was placed with 2 others in a double. So 3 in one room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m struggling to believe some of the antidotal stories.

DC is an incoming freshmen student at UMich. Registration began this week. DC registered yesterday. He had no problem registering for the classes he wanted. CoE if that matters.

Story about freshmen dorms at UCLA is true. DC is a student there and was placed with 2 others in a double. So 3 in one room.

I think every college my 11th grader has toured so far, from big, medium, and small, has said some freshmen end up in triples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m struggling to believe some of the antidotal stories.

DC is an incoming freshmen student at UMich. Registration began this week. DC registered yesterday. He had no problem registering for the classes he wanted. CoE if that matters.

Story about freshmen dorms at UCLA is true. DC is a student there and was placed with 2 others in a double. So 3 in one room.

I think every college my 11th grader has toured so far, from big, medium, and small, has said some freshmen end up in triples.

Triples freshman year is one thing.
1200 people in one class, and still students can't get into the course, is another thing completely.
The 2000 people in the Cal data science course is insane. Applied Analytics is the most popular minor in my DC's school. The max class size is 67. So they offer 12-15 sessions every semester to accommodate the demand. That's the difference between private and public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley

They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.

💯 these things show me that most OOS flagships are not worth full price (unless honors college?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley

They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.

Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.

Which schools are you referring to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley

They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.

Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.

Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley

They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.

Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.

Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …

Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley

They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.

Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.

Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …

Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-california-los-angeles/

Now show us the schools that are so much better!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At UCLA triples are standard, but they guarantee housing for all 4 years, which is vital for students who need it.

It is also hard to get classes, particularly prerequisites, so if a student needs things straightforward this environment would be difficult. You’ve got to plan, hustle, and be ready to pivot as needed. Register for more classes than you need and drop one once you get the feel for the work. Can’t get into a class? Start going anyways and wait for an opening or ask the professor to approve your seat. Successful student need to be savvy and resourceful, and plenty of them graduate in 4 years (maybe snagging some of those hard prerequisites at CC over the summer). There is no handholding.

The one thing that pisses me off is the underground market for classes. Students register for classes they don’t need and then sell the seat. I wish the school would crack down on that.

How is this even possible? The registered student doesn't have any control over who gets to "fill their seat" when they dis-enroll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg this sounds awful.

I now understand why no kids from our private go to UCLA or Berkeley

They are great if you are In-state. But definately not worth OOS prices. If I'm paying $60K+, my kid will have smaller class and the ability to get the courses they need when they need them.

Let's be honest. They are not great in-state. The price is right for in-state. And the name is great on the diploma. But the student experience sux.

Except UCLA is an absolute monster when it comes to outlasting literally every other university in the country when it comes to the core student rankings, including quality of life and overall experience.

But yeah, other than that …

Oh for sure. Other than the 5 pages on this thread of complaints. No, definitely.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-california-los-angeles/

Now show us the schools that are so much better!!!

BHAHAHAHHA!! You're citing Niche?! Hahahahahah!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At UCLA triples are standard, but they guarantee housing for all 4 years, which is vital for students who need it.

It is also hard to get classes, particularly prerequisites, so if a student needs things straightforward this environment would be difficult. You’ve got to plan, hustle, and be ready to pivot as needed. Register for more classes than you need and drop one once you get the feel for the work. Can’t get into a class? Start going anyways and wait for an opening or ask the professor to approve your seat. Successful student need to be savvy and resourceful, and plenty of them graduate in 4 years (maybe snagging some of those hard prerequisites at CC over the summer). There is no handholding.

The one thing that pisses me off is the underground market for classes. Students register for classes they don’t need and then sell the seat. I wish the school would crack down on that.

How is this even possible? The registered student doesn't have any control over who gets to "fill their seat" when they dis-enroll.

Exactly. Unless UC's reg system is a relic from the 90s which is the only way it could be possible and that's just sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My neighbor has a crazy sorry about first year students showing up at BU and not having housing. They were eventually put up at hotels. This was only a few years ago.

Let's be honest, being in a hotel in Boston is almost like (or even better than) being in a dorm at BU. It's a city school and hotels are nearby and accessible and essentially similar location-wise since BU has no traditional campus.

That's very different than being shoved 3/4 into a typical double dorm on a campus - or being put into a hotel off-campus (requiring a shuttle bus) at a school with a traditional campus.