Stay at Home Girlfriends

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has the sort of arrangement. Has no desire to be married. She is in her mid-thirties and the guy's In his '60s. She was struggling in Boston with a bunch of roommates + he moved her into his place on the West Coast. She seems happy he gives her a weekly allowance. She has saved up a pretty big nest egg. She has no bills. He doesn't want any more children because his kids are grown so she is freezing her eggs to eventually do it on her own

If your friend wants kids she should stop wasting her time at mid 30s. Freezing her eggs especially if they aren't fertilized has a low success rate

Agreed. I don't think she believes she's wasting her time. She grew up dirt poor, and for the first time she has some sort of stability. She doesn't worry about bills, she doesn't cook or clean. One big complaint was she thought she would get a break because of his age. She says she can't keep him off of her.

Is he at least fit/attractive or she's tolerating the fat old body?

He's extremely fit and in much better shape than she is. I don't find him attractive but I can't think of anything that would make him specifically unattractive. He's just old.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So I take it you wouldn't love this woman.

How do you love someone and not want them to do well in life? What happens to them if you break up 20 years later and they are unemployed? What happens to them when they have not worked enough to earn social security or when they have not saved enough for retirement?

How can you be so selfish?

But men are saying they are fine with these GFs working. I presume she’s not building her life around his needs cooking and organizing his schedule or raising kids

Um, that's the entire arrangement, obviously. The day these women get a job (in what, retail? food service?) and come home in the evening, same as the guy, and both look at each other like "what's for dinner", is the day these arrangements end.

Saying "I'm Ok if she works" and fully expecting her job to have no impact on his life is like me dropping a ball off a building and expecting gravity not to exist. This is a one-way arrangement for the man, full stop. The day it's anything different is the day she's out on her ass. Ultimately this is more manosphere crap/tradwife nonsense that attempts to dress up exploitation of women as enticing; no woman with other options or intact self-esteem agrees to this (cue the "my girlfriend loves it!" guys. Your girlfriend has nowhere else to go and/or is damaged. The end). OP you have no requirement to be a decent human being, but no one's patting you on the back for taking advantage of vulnerable people. It's bottom-feeder behavior.

Exactly. She can do what she wants but only as long as he can get laid twice a day, has childcare every other week, and doesn’t have to cook dinner. It is classic bottom feeder incel behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I found my stay at home gf on seeking the sugar baby page. There was a thread here not too long ago about sugar daddies check it out. We did the sugar thing for a few months but the connection chemistry and sex was great so I upgraded her status and downgraded how much cash I was putting into it (no more allowance but I take care of all her expenses which is barely half of what the allowance was since she lives with me now and doesn’t need to cover her own rent) not just that but instead of twice a week sex (on the arrangement) now I can have twice a day sex when I want. She is caring attentive and a great cook too. Has a decent education and comes across as classy, UMC type not someone I would want to “hide” from family and friends. She knows that I have zero intentions to further upgrade her status to wife

Win win

Does she have any other jobs? Is she currently in graduate school? Does she want a family? What are her future plans? Just curious why an educated young woman is in a futureless relationship and not trying to further a long-term career.

if you come out of your DCUM bubble you would understand that the average person in USA has an income of 50-60k. event most college grad earnings will top out at 80k after decades. that is nothing in DMV vs being the stay-at-home gf for someone whose income is 500k+. try to put things in perspective. everyone doesn't want to get married and everyone doesn't consider being a gf as a futureless relationship

You're probably a troll but I'll play along. What is her plan when she's 40+, or sooner, when you discard her? Do you fund her 401k and put her on your insurance?

I never asked her to not have a job. its her choice.

It is not my responsibility to fund a 30something year old's 401k just because she is living with me. you call me a troll but your question suggesting I am responsible for her 401k really makes you a troll!

and no, she is not on my insurance. she is a gf not a wife. but I did FULLY pay for her 2024 insurance through the health exchange last November

Why don’t you want to “upgrade” her to wife if she is a “keeper”?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So I take it you wouldn't love this woman.

How do you love someone and not want them to do well in life? What happens to them if you break up 20 years later and they are unemployed? What happens to them when they have not worked enough to earn social security or when they have not saved enough for retirement?

How can you be so selfish?

But men are saying they are fine with these GFs working. I presume she’s not building her life around his needs cooking and organizing his schedule or raising kids

Um, that's the entire arrangement, obviously. The day these women get a job (in what, retail? food service?) and come home in the evening, same as the guy, and both look at each other like "what's for dinner", is the day these arrangements end.

Saying "I'm Ok if she works" and fully expecting her job to have no impact on his life is like me dropping a ball off a building and expecting gravity not to exist. This is a one-way arrangement for the man, full stop. The day it's anything different is the day she's out on her ass. Ultimately this is more manosphere crap/tradwife nonsense that attempts to dress up exploitation of women as enticing; no woman with other options or intact self-esteem agrees to this (cue the "my girlfriend loves it!" guys. Your girlfriend has nowhere else to go and/or is damaged. The end). OP you have no requirement to be a decent human being, but no one's patting you on the back for taking advantage of vulnerable people. It's bottom-feeder behavior.

Exactly. She can do what she wants but only as long as he can get laid twice a day, has childcare every other week, and doesn’t have to cook dinner. It is classic bottom feeder incel behavior.

If you're able to scam a woman into this, that seems like the opposite of an incel.

[Anonymous]

Any human making a choice about money has to calculate what they can ‘afford’.
If you are a stay at home gf with no commitment or kids, can you afford to be dumped?
If you are a wife with no job, can you afford to be divorced by someone who is greater money for legal support?
And so on.
Those who can afford to take the risk aren’t really stay at home girlfriends - they are overgrown kids with trust funds or a very good safety net

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is now a big thing. My question why did it not happen sooner?

Back when I was single many years ago, I had my own apartment and lived alone for 8 years.

One girl I dated was absolutely beautiful and a lot of fun. But not marriage material. At that time she quit work for two years to do grad school, moved home and had no job.

In retrospect she should have been my stay at home girlfriend. I owned a coop with all utilities included so her moving in would cost me zero extra.

I have a beautiful girl to sleep with every night, someone around in case a delivery, someone to eat dinner with and unlimited sex. She would be out of her crappy childhood bedroom and living in a place she could not afford for free.

It all makes perfect sense.

A working girlfriend is just annoying none of money she earns is mine. She is not around when I want to hang out.

My none working GF a few times I had two locks on door. I gave her key to one. She came over 2-3 times after school made dinner, hung out. Put in sexy outfit and I walked home to a great night.

Was I stupid not to make her a live in girlfriend?

I dated girls in investment banking and law and found it very annoying. They were always changing meeting times, stressed from work, not in any mood to relax but none of their money was mine. I was just a BF.

And a stay at home GF tons of benefits too for them.

Am I crazy? But it is all the rage now.

A woman wrote this.

[Anonymous]

Apologize.

To me and everyone who read this Op

[Anonymous]

This used to be very common for GFs of drug dealers and athletes. I'm sure it's still the same except they brag about it n social media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So I take it you wouldn't love this woman.

How do you love someone and not want them to do well in life? What happens to them if you break up 20 years later and they are unemployed? What happens to them when they have not worked enough to earn social security or when they have not saved enough for retirement?

How can you be so selfish?

But men are saying they are fine with these GFs working. I presume she’s not building her life around his needs cooking and organizing his schedule or raising kids

Um, that's the entire arrangement, obviously. The day these women get a job (in what, retail? food service?) and come home in the evening, same as the guy, and both look at each other like "what's for dinner", is the day these arrangements end.

Saying "I'm Ok if she works" and fully expecting her job to have no impact on his life is like me dropping a ball off a building and expecting gravity not to exist. This is a one-way arrangement for the man, full stop. The day it's anything different is the day she's out on her ass. Ultimately this is more manosphere crap/tradwife nonsense that attempts to dress up exploitation of women as enticing; no woman with other options or intact self-esteem agrees to this (cue the "my girlfriend loves it!" guys. Your girlfriend has nowhere else to go and/or is damaged. The end). OP you have no requirement to be a decent human being, but no one's patting you on the back for taking advantage of vulnerable people. It's bottom-feeder behavior.

Exactly. She can do what she wants but only as long as he can get laid twice a day, has childcare every other week, and doesn’t have to cook dinner. It is classic bottom feeder incel behavior.

Incels don't have a woman, let alone one that has sex with them 2x a week after kids. They are as transparent as neo-nazis after a quick look at their social media or 5 minute conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is now a big thing. My question why did it not happen sooner?

Back when I was single many years ago, I had my own apartment and lived alone for 8 years.

One girl I dated was absolutely beautiful and a lot of fun. But not marriage material. At that time she quit work for two years to do grad school, moved home and had no job.

In retrospect she should have been my stay at home girlfriend. I owned a coop with all utilities included so her moving in would cost me zero extra.

I have a beautiful girl to sleep with every night, someone around in case a delivery, someone to eat dinner with and unlimited sex. She would be out of her crappy childhood bedroom and living in a place she could not afford for free.

It all makes perfect sense.

A working girlfriend is just annoying none of money she earns is mine. She is not around when I want to hang out.

My none working GF a few times I had two locks on door. I gave her key to one. She came over 2-3 times after school made dinner, hung out. Put in sexy outfit and I walked home to a great night.

Was I stupid not to make her a live in girlfriend?

I dated girls in investment banking and law and found it very annoying. They were always changing meeting times, stressed from work, not in any mood to relax but none of their money was mine. I was just a BF.

And a stay at home GF tons of benefits too for them.

Am I crazy? But it is all the rage now.

Women make all sort of stupid choices, from picking weak majors, no work life balance careers, overspending, drinking, drugs, picking men for their looks or money, getting pregnant or STD by hookup men, etc etc. I don't see why a stay at home girlfriend stunt of few years is any different than any other social media stunt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I take it you wouldn't love this woman.

How do you love someone and not want them to do well in life? What happens to them if you break up 20 years later and they are unemployed? What happens to them when they have not worked enough to earn social security or when they have not saved enough for retirement?

How can you be so selfish?

But men are saying they are fine with these GFs working. I presume she’s not building her life around his needs cooking and organizing his schedule or raising kids

Did you read the original post?

Household point is that it’s annoying to date women who have jobs. They have to work late and reschedule dinner reservations. They get stressed before big presentations at work and don’t want to have sex.

This guy wants a cute cuddly and relaxed girlfriend who is available any time he wants an emotional connection.

The entire point of his post is that dealing with girlfriend’s jobs is annoying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I take it you wouldn't love this woman.

How do you love someone and not want them to do well in life? What happens to them if you break up 20 years later and they are unemployed? What happens to them when they have not worked enough to earn social security or when they have not saved enough for retirement?

How can you be so selfish?

But men are saying they are fine with these GFs working. I presume she’s not building her life around his needs cooking and organizing his schedule or raising kids

Did you read the original post?

Household point is that it’s annoying to date women who have jobs. They have to work late and reschedule dinner reservations. They get stressed before big presentations at work and don’t want to have sex.

This guy wants a cute cuddly and relaxed girlfriend who is available any time he wants an emotional connection.

The entire point of his post is that dealing with girlfriend’s jobs is annoying.

A lot of successful men dating are like that, though. They expect a woman to be available to participate in his activities, connect with him when he wants to connect, and give nothing in return. At least SAH GF gets a roof to stay under

[Anonymous]

There have always been freeloader pretty girls in their teens and twenties willing to agree to this arrangement for a song.

It’s not new. Gen Z just made a hashtag out of it, but they didn’t invent it.

If you couldn’t score one and tried to, you just couldn’t offer enough to get one.

[Anonymous]

OP, she wouldn't have been a "stay at home" anything if she was in school. She wasn't just some unemployed doll hanging around to please you.

[Anonymous]

This thread makes me so sad for women who pursue this or think it’s the best they can do. Ladies, you are worth more than this.