Disney DAS

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Yeah I’m starting to realize PP has no idea what they’re talking about.

They don't, and they are angry and mean. I'm guessing they went to Disney and had a miserable time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People really took advantage of the DAS program. I don’t blame Disney for changing it.

I do. People taking advantage of it is no reason to completely take away DAS from physically disabled people. It’s crazy to me that someone with like cerebral palsy or cancer or MS or whatever can’t use this service anymore because they don’t also have autism.

It doesn't sound like the new policy removes all access to physical disabilities. DAS is just excluding people whose issues can be solved with a pass to leave the line and return or a mobility device (e.g., scooter or wheelchair) so they don't have to stand.

Part of the problem is forcing people to use mobility devices when they don't need them under normal circumstances. I've seen several stories about amputees who are perfectly "mobile" but who have difficulty waiting in long lines, especially in heat, as the day progresses because their prosthesis becomes less comfortable and more painful being denied DAS because they could just get a wheelchair. That seems wrong to me.

They can get a scooter. There is nothing “wrong” about that.

Huh. You don't think someone with a genuine physical disability that causes significant pain deserves some accommodation? By the way, ECVs cost $65 per day to rent, but I guess those slacker amputees should just deal.

If they’re walking around a park all day on a prosthesis, there’s no reason they can’t stand in line with the same prosthesis. Or sit on the chair/cane. Or lean on the ropes like the rest of us. If they can’t walk around the park all day and can’t stand in line at all, they get a scooter or a wheelchair.
Quit playing the victim here. There are options. You just don’t like them.

NP. By that logic, people with zero physical disabilities who have autism can also just stand in line for hours.

I don’t think that’s true. If an autistic kid can’t stand in line for an hour they may act out or scream or get physical or cause a disturbance to others waiting in line. It’s a completely different scenario.

This. My kid has to eat in a lunch bunch because he cannot even handle the noise and commotion of the cafeteria at school. If he gets overstimulated/dysregulated he may throw himself on the ground and kick. That doesn’t happen often thankfully, but it does on occasion.

In order for our family to go to Disney, we had to pick a less crowded time, select a few must do rides, and basically have a straight forward itinerary to avoid crossing all over the park and having downtime built in. We bought Genie + in conjunction to using DAS and were able to minimize crowd/line time, take meal breaks while waiting for our return time, and get in and out of the park in a shorter time.

I know people pay a lot of money to go to Disney and I appreciate not having to risk a) my kid losing it 80 minutes into a 90 minute wait and then having to give up on the ride and b) disturbing other guests if my kid flails and is upset.

Why are you taking a kid who can't cope in crowded places to Disney? Goodness. Choose a different vacation.

What’s wrong with you? Disney makes an effort to be inclusive. Kids with disabilities deserve to experience the magic of seeing their favorite characters come to life. My son also needed to eat in a lunch bunch during camp, where he gets dysregulated, but loves Disney world. He was obsessed with Toy Story the first time we went, and the castle. He was mesmerized by the fireworks. And all the entertainment was great for his adhd needs - we just have to know when to take breaks from all the stimulation, which we can do in our small family setting. We modify our vacation to meet his needs, but I can’t imagine having him miss out on Disney altogether. I’ve seen autistic people waiting in lines for cosmic rewind, wearing sensory friendly headphones. This is such a spectacularly out of touch comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

How is it double dipping? You pay for one and the other is an accommodation for ONE person and a limited number of companions (rule changes seem to be limiting it to mostly only immediate family now). If the DAS holder isn’t riding, the party doesn’t have access lol the DAS line. With one DAS family member, and three who aren’t, there are going to be some attractions we can’t use the DAS on (my DAS holder used to be hyper sensitive to certain types of rides so we couldn’t do those with him, but my other child liked the thrills—are you saying he isn’t entitled to Genie+ we paid for?).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

If the DAS person is sitting out the rest of the party is using Genie + on another ride. They aren’t jumping any queues.
You’re making yourself look dumber and dumber with every post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

If the DAS person is sitting out the rest of the party is using Genie + on another ride. They aren’t jumping any queues.
You’re making yourself look dumber and dumber with every post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

That has never been allowed. The DAS holder must be going on the ride.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People really took advantage of the DAS program. I don’t blame Disney for changing it.

I do. People taking advantage of it is no reason to completely take away DAS from physically disabled people. It’s crazy to me that someone with like cerebral palsy or cancer or MS or whatever can’t use this service anymore because they don’t also have autism.

It doesn't sound like the new policy removes all access to physical disabilities. DAS is just excluding people whose issues can be solved with a pass to leave the line and return or a mobility device (e.g., scooter or wheelchair) so they don't have to stand.

Part of the problem is forcing people to use mobility devices when they don't need them under normal circumstances. I've seen several stories about amputees who are perfectly "mobile" but who have difficulty waiting in long lines, especially in heat, as the day progresses because their prosthesis becomes less comfortable and more painful being denied DAS because they could just get a wheelchair. That seems wrong to me.

NP What?! Someone upthread told me that if my toddler can't wait in 30-60 minute lines I shouldn't go to Disney either.

They can get a scooter. There is nothing “wrong” about that.

Huh. You don't think someone with a genuine physical disability that causes significant pain deserves some accommodation? By the way, ECVs cost $65 per day to rent, but I guess those slacker amputees should just deal.

If they’re walking around a park all day on a prosthesis, there’s no reason they can’t stand in line with the same prosthesis. Or sit on the chair/cane. Or lean on the ropes like the rest of us. If they can’t walk around the park all day and can’t stand in line at all, they get a scooter or a wheelchair.
Quit playing the victim here. There are options. You just don’t like them.

NP. By that logic, people with zero physical disabilities who have autism can also just stand in line for hours.

I don’t think that’s true. If an autistic kid can’t stand in line for an hour they may act out or scream or get physical or cause a disturbance to others waiting in line. It’s a completely different scenario.

This. My kid has to eat in a lunch bunch because he cannot even handle the noise and commotion of the cafeteria at school. If he gets overstimulated/dysregulated he may throw himself on the ground and kick. That doesn’t happen often thankfully, but it does on occasion.

In order for our family to go to Disney, we had to pick a less crowded time, select a few must do rides, and basically have a straight forward itinerary to avoid crossing all over the park and having downtime built in. We bought Genie + in conjunction to using DAS and were able to minimize crowd/line time, take meal breaks while waiting for our return time, and get in and out of the park in a shorter time.

I know people pay a lot of money to go to Disney and I appreciate not having to risk a) my kid losing it 80 minutes into a 90 minute wait and then having to give up on the ride and b) disturbing other guests if my kid flails and is upset.

Why are you taking a kid who can't cope in crowded places to Disney? Goodness. Choose a different vacation.

What’s wrong with you? Disney makes an effort to be inclusive. Kids with disabilities deserve to experience the magic of seeing their favorite characters come to life. My son also needed to eat in a lunch bunch during camp, where he gets dysregulated, but loves Disney world. He was obsessed with Toy Story the first time we went, and the castle. He was mesmerized by the fireworks. And all the entertainment was great for his adhd needs - we just have to know when to take breaks from all the stimulation, which we can do in our small family setting. We modify our vacation to meet his needs, but I can’t imagine having him miss out on Disney altogether. I’ve seen autistic people waiting in lines for cosmic rewind, wearing sensory friendly headphones. This is such a spectacularly out of touch comment.

NP What?! Someone upthread told me that if my toddler can't wait in 30-60 minute lines I shouldn't go to Disney either. Don't all kids deserve the magic of Disney? Their lines are untenable for all.

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Anonymous wrote:People really took advantage of the DAS program. I don’t blame Disney for changing it.

I do. People taking advantage of it is no reason to completely take away DAS from physically disabled people. It’s crazy to me that someone with like cerebral palsy or cancer or MS or whatever can’t use this service anymore because they don’t also have autism.

It doesn't sound like the new policy removes all access to physical disabilities. DAS is just excluding people whose issues can be solved with a pass to leave the line and return or a mobility device (e.g., scooter or wheelchair) so they don't have to stand.

Part of the problem is forcing people to use mobility devices when they don't need them under normal circumstances. I've seen several stories about amputees who are perfectly "mobile" but who have difficulty waiting in long lines, especially in heat, as the day progresses because their prosthesis becomes less comfortable and more painful being denied DAS because they could just get a wheelchair. That seems wrong to me.

NP What?! Someone upthread told me that if my toddler can't wait in 30-60 minute lines I shouldn't go to Disney either.

They can get a scooter. There is nothing “wrong” about that.

Huh. You don't think someone with a genuine physical disability that causes significant pain deserves some accommodation? By the way, ECVs cost $65 per day to rent, but I guess those slacker amputees should just deal.

If they’re walking around a park all day on a prosthesis, there’s no reason they can’t stand in line with the same prosthesis. Or sit on the chair/cane. Or lean on the ropes like the rest of us. If they can’t walk around the park all day and can’t stand in line at all, they get a scooter or a wheelchair.
Quit playing the victim here. There are options. You just don’t like them.

NP. By that logic, people with zero physical disabilities who have autism can also just stand in line for hours.

I don’t think that’s true. If an autistic kid can’t stand in line for an hour they may act out or scream or get physical or cause a disturbance to others waiting in line. It’s a completely different scenario.

This. My kid has to eat in a lunch bunch because he cannot even handle the noise and commotion of the cafeteria at school. If he gets overstimulated/dysregulated he may throw himself on the ground and kick. That doesn’t happen often thankfully, but it does on occasion.

In order for our family to go to Disney, we had to pick a less crowded time, select a few must do rides, and basically have a straight forward itinerary to avoid crossing all over the park and having downtime built in. We bought Genie + in conjunction to using DAS and were able to minimize crowd/line time, take meal breaks while waiting for our return time, and get in and out of the park in a shorter time.

I know people pay a lot of money to go to Disney and I appreciate not having to risk a) my kid losing it 80 minutes into a 90 minute wait and then having to give up on the ride and b) disturbing other guests if my kid flails and is upset.

Why are you taking a kid who can't cope in crowded places to Disney? Goodness. Choose a different vacation.

What’s wrong with you? Disney makes an effort to be inclusive. Kids with disabilities deserve to experience the magic of seeing their favorite characters come to life. My son also needed to eat in a lunch bunch during camp, where he gets dysregulated, but loves Disney world. He was obsessed with Toy Story the first time we went, and the castle. He was mesmerized by the fireworks. And all the entertainment was great for his adhd needs - we just have to know when to take breaks from all the stimulation, which we can do in our small family setting. We modify our vacation to meet his needs, but I can’t imagine having him miss out on Disney altogether. I’ve seen autistic people waiting in lines for cosmic rewind, wearing sensory friendly headphones. This is such a spectacularly out of touch comment.

NP What?! Someone upthread told me that if my toddler can't wait in 30-60 minute lines I shouldn't go to Disney either. Don't all kids deserve the magic of Disney? Their lines are untenable for all.

Yes, if you don’t want to wait in long lines you pay for genie+. The same way you pay for premium economy on an airplane. It’s a different than children with disabilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

I don't think you understand. The DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of their party to use the Lightning Lane. The rest of the party can't go if the DAS holder isn't with them. By buying Genie +, the non-disabled members of the party can use the Lightning Lanes that they paid for when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Then it's not "allowing everyone to ride" is it? Or are you saying the DAS guest scans and then sits down? What a crock.

Can you read? I am saying that when using DAS, the DAS holder has to scan in before the rest of the party and go on the ride with them. If the DAS holder needs rest time, if you have purchased Genie +, other members of the party can use Lightning Lane when the DAS holder isn't with them.

Do you understand what double dipping is? Because that's not it. We're not even talking about the same thing. If you are limited to one ride per day/ride using Genie + it is double dipping to use DAS and Genie + to ride the same ride twice in a day. Fact is people are abusing the system. There are way too many people so Disney has cracked down. Are you going to argue that nobody was abusing this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People really took advantage of the DAS program. I don’t blame Disney for changing it.

I do. People taking advantage of it is no reason to completely take away DAS from physically disabled people. It’s crazy to me that someone with like cerebral palsy or cancer or MS or whatever can’t use this service anymore because they don’t also have autism.

It doesn't sound like the new policy removes all access to physical disabilities. DAS is just excluding people whose issues can be solved with a pass to leave the line and return or a mobility device (e.g., scooter or wheelchair) so they don't have to stand.

Part of the problem is forcing people to use mobility devices when they don't need them under normal circumstances. I've seen several stories about amputees who are perfectly "mobile" but who have difficulty waiting in long lines, especially in heat, as the day progresses because their prosthesis becomes less comfortable and more painful being denied DAS because they could just get a wheelchair. That seems wrong to me.

NP What?! Someone upthread told me that if my toddler can't wait in 30-60 minute lines I shouldn't go to Disney either.

They can get a scooter. There is nothing “wrong” about that.

Huh. You don't think someone with a genuine physical disability that causes significant pain deserves some accommodation? By the way, ECVs cost $65 per day to rent, but I guess those slacker amputees should just deal.

If they’re walking around a park all day on a prosthesis, there’s no reason they can’t stand in line with the same prosthesis. Or sit on the chair/cane. Or lean on the ropes like the rest of us. If they can’t walk around the park all day and can’t stand in line at all, they get a scooter or a wheelchair.
Quit playing the victim here. There are options. You just don’t like them.

NP. By that logic, people with zero physical disabilities who have autism can also just stand in line for hours.

I don’t think that’s true. If an autistic kid can’t stand in line for an hour they may act out or scream or get physical or cause a disturbance to others waiting in line. It’s a completely different scenario.

This. My kid has to eat in a lunch bunch because he cannot even handle the noise and commotion of the cafeteria at school. If he gets overstimulated/dysregulated he may throw himself on the ground and kick. That doesn’t happen often thankfully, but it does on occasion.

In order for our family to go to Disney, we had to pick a less crowded time, select a few must do rides, and basically have a straight forward itinerary to avoid crossing all over the park and having downtime built in. We bought Genie + in conjunction to using DAS and were able to minimize crowd/line time, take meal breaks while waiting for our return time, and get in and out of the park in a shorter time.

I know people pay a lot of money to go to Disney and I appreciate not having to risk a) my kid losing it 80 minutes into a 90 minute wait and then having to give up on the ride and b) disturbing other guests if my kid flails and is upset.

Why are you taking a kid who can't cope in crowded places to Disney? Goodness. Choose a different vacation.

What’s wrong with you? Disney makes an effort to be inclusive. Kids with disabilities deserve to experience the magic of seeing their favorite characters come to life. My son also needed to eat in a lunch bunch during camp, where he gets dysregulated, but loves Disney world. He was obsessed with Toy Story the first time we went, and the castle. He was mesmerized by the fireworks. And all the entertainment was great for his adhd needs - we just have to know when to take breaks from all the stimulation, which we can do in our small family setting. We modify our vacation to meet his needs, but I can’t imagine having him miss out on Disney altogether. I’ve seen autistic people waiting in lines for cosmic rewind, wearing sensory friendly headphones. This is such a spectacularly out of touch comment.

NP What?! Someone upthread told me that if my toddler can't wait in 30-60 minute lines I shouldn't go to Disney either. Don't all kids deserve the magic of Disney? Their lines are untenable for all.

Yes, if you don’t want to wait in long lines you pay for genie+. The same way you pay for premium economy on an airplane. It’s a different than children with disabilities.

We did pay for genie+... the lightning lanes are still 20-30 min long and then you have to wait in other long lines between your genie + rides.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should be either/or. You shouldn't be able to use Genie + if you have DAS. It's double dipping.

Apparently, Disney does not agree with you, at least not under the old system.

https://plandisney.disney.go.com/question/das-genie-time-495493/

I will also add that using Genie Plus and DAS is also helpful because it allows the other party members to ride with shorter lines while the person with DAS sits out to rest.

Well luckily the party is now limited to a max of 4 people and only immediate family. Letting the DAS person sit and rest while everyone else jumps the queue? GTFO.

If the DAS person is sitting out the rest of the party is using Genie + on another ride. They aren’t jumping any queues.
You’re making yourself look dumber and dumber with every post.

Except we all know the “DAS person” is ALSO using the genie+ LL.