Move schools for 5th or try the lottery again

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SH does not have good buy in from the feeders. It’s IB rate is only 28% so 3 out of every 4 kids are leaving.
And no, 3 out of 4 kids in its feeders are not getting into Latin and Basis BTW.

That's just such rubbish! It's a city-wide fact that most students leave elementary school into other feeders and other systems (charter, private). For better (and for worse!) we have school choice DC. It's for middle school that parents are making it. We took our kids OOB from Maury to Stuart Hobson and to Jefferson. We fell outside of those 28%; now, per the above statement, that should tell you these schools are undesirable?! (FYI, both kids went on to excellent high schools and colleges of their choice. No, at best, that indicator tells you nothing. Or maybe it tells you they're doing something right.)

Today, we might prefer Eliot Hine, or maybe we'd go back and choose that DCI French track we wavered after all. You need to look at your student, at what they need, at your situation, at the opportunities before you, at what's important to you and your family here and now, and make choices on that basis. Then commit to it and make it work. I'm convinced that more than half the success that our kids stand for can be credited to minimizing commutes and investing in our family's convenience and happiness. That left us with plenty of bandwidth to support everyone and bring our best selves into our family's needs. This may not be how others see it, and that's fine and exactly what the system allows. I'm not a big supporter of school choice but I am for making the best of it since we have it. And let's stop judging people and schools about it!

Stuart Hobson and Eliot Hine now have comparable IB participation rates around 30%. As you point out, that is only one data point, but EH's has been steadying climbing for years, which is a positive trend.

Was going to come on here to comment on that - Eliot Hine is 44% IB with feeders Payne at 59% IB, Maury at 84% IB, and Miner at 62% IB. SH feeder is a bit of a range, Ludlow IB is 60%, Watkins is 33% and JO Wilson is 31%. But yes, there are out of boundary students at any feeder which then matriculate to various middle schools, either their feeder, a nearby middle school, or one across town. If you are really interested in this, EdScape has data about where students come from, although it is already a year + outdated https://edscape.dc.gov/node/1640846 .

Are you trying to quote in-bound participation rate? If so, those numbers are wrong (at least as to Maury and Miner). You’re citing the proportion
of students who attend the school who are in-bounds for that school, not the proportion of in-bounds kids who decide to go to the school. For the latter, it’s like 64% at Maury and 26% at Miner. I don’t have the others handy.

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SH does not have good buy in from the feeders. It’s IB rate is only 28% so 3 out of every 4 kids are leaving.
And no, 3 out of 4 kids in its feeders are not getting into Latin and Basis BTW.

That's just such rubbish! It's a city-wide fact that most students leave elementary school into other feeders and other systems (charter, private). For better (and for worse!) we have school choice DC. It's for middle school that parents are making it. We took our kids OOB from Maury to Stuart Hobson and to Jefferson. We fell outside of those 28%; now, per the above statement, that should tell you these schools are undesirable?! (FYI, both kids went on to excellent high schools and colleges of their choice. No, at best, that indicator tells you nothing. Or maybe it tells you they're doing something right.)

Today, we might prefer Eliot Hine, or maybe we'd go back and choose that DCI French track we wavered after all. You need to look at your student, at what they need, at your situation, at the opportunities before you, at what's important to you and your family here and now, and make choices on that basis. Then commit to it and make it work. I'm convinced that more than half the success that our kids stand for can be credited to minimizing commutes and investing in our family's convenience and happiness. That left us with plenty of bandwidth to support everyone and bring our best selves into our family's needs. This may not be how others see it, and that's fine and exactly what the system allows. I'm not a big supporter of school choice but I am for making the best of it since we have it. And let's stop judging people and schools about it!

Stuart Hobson and Eliot Hine now have comparable IB participation rates around 30%. As you point out, that is only one data point, but EH's has been steadying climbing for years, which is a positive trend.

Was going to come on here to comment on that - Eliot Hine is 44% IB with feeders Payne at 59% IB, Maury at 84% IB, and Miner at 62% IB. SH feeder is a bit of a range, Ludlow IB is 60%, Watkins is 33% and JO Wilson is 31%. But yes, there are out of boundary students at any feeder which then matriculate to various middle schools, either their feeder, a nearby middle school, or one across town. If you are really interested in this, EdScape has data about where students come from, although it is already a year + outdated https://edscape.dc.gov/node/1640846 .

Are you trying to quote in-bound participation rate? If so, those numbers are wrong (at least as to Maury and Miner). You’re citing the proportion
of students who attend the school who are in-bounds for that school, not the proportion of in-bounds kids who decide to go to the school. For the latter, it’s like 64% at Maury and 26% at Miner. I don’t have the others handy.

Yes- those numbers in the initial post were what percent of the school was comprised of students who lived in the boundary. With all of the school closures/conversions to condos/charters from 15 years ago, there are some DCPS school boundaries that if all of the in bounds kids enrolled in their DCPS there would be a serious overcrowding issue. I would argue that is part of the crowding issue at Maury. Because of Friendship, Two Rivers, and other nearby DCPS schools, a lot of kids who live IB for Miner go elsewhere, but even with that, 62% of the kids at Miner come from in bounds. There are just a lot of kids living in that boundary - lots of housing density.