I feel the opposite: they see their parents working their ass off, for not much. They figure they don't want to be working hard to enrich someone else. |
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I think I'm an outlier but the older Gen Z people I work with are hard working, smart, and motivated. No one is perfect but I'm not seeing the "generational" problems. That said, my sample size is small.
I'm Gen X. |
They were raised by cynical slacker GenX who never got to advance to leadership because boomers never left. They know they won’t have a chance in career advancement between old boyism, classism, and the huge Millenial population which will be similarly entrenched at the top. |
I am salary, but am required to work the correct hours. I am unable to leave before 8.5. |
Unless you have equity in a company you are a sucker for working like a dog for them and making fun of colleagues who advocate for a better work / life balance. You are useful idiot, for all intents and purposes. When you’re lying on your death bed and reflect on your life, you’ll realize how stupid you were for slaving away for an employer who would fire you at the drop of a hat if it improved the bottom line. You could have spent that extra time with your kids or doing something you loved, but instead you wasted away your life in an office, making money for someone who viewed you as an expendable, interchangeable part. You’ll realize it at this point, but by then it will be too late. Sad really. |
Career advancement is a fool’s errand. Either start your own business that you can give to your kids or work at a place with a good work / life balance so you can enjoy the fleeting moments you have left. Life goes by fast; don’t waste it trying to climb the ladder at a company that doesn’t give a damn about you. |
| I love the justaposition of a thread like this next to a college thread where a millennial/gen x parent will say a teen can't possibly attend a college that is rural or cloudy or cold or conservative, etc. |
Starting your own business has such high risk, it’s only for those with a big safety net (ie rich parents). |
Gen X was a lot more lazy which is real reason. |
| What is even the point of working hard. Companies reward hard work with mergers and layoffs. Gen Z gets it. You’re a replaceable cog in the machine no matter what, so why not act like it. |
| It's amazing that people believe in these generational stereotypes. It's worse than astrology. |
GenX saw all their parents get ambushed by layoffs and the resulting wave of divorces. They understood the golden age of stable jobs was gone forever, and Welch capitalism was the law of the land. |
Not true at all. I managed tons of these “kids” over the years. They are all pretty much identical. First mainly dual income generation First involved Dad generation First WLB generation As such they were less devoted to work and worked less hours. Which is actual reason they could not knock boomers out of jobs Back in 2016 I was job hunting and got an amazing role that required whole family relocation and longer hours. I noticed who senior mgt team was nearly all boomers and staff nearly all younger single millennials. Gen X at the perfect age being born 1965 to 1980 were between 36 and 51 to grab these very high paying roles with promotions. Yet they did not. Most had working spouses, hurdle to relocation, involved Dad coaching sports or has hobbies did not want to work the hours. Did not want to uproot family. Meanwhile my Boomer co-workers all had SAH wives, most had no close friends or hobbies outside work, not involved kids activities. How can you when you are out of house 7-7 everyday. Gen X did not go for these jobs and quite frankly elder milenials also. My last start up was 95 percent kids single under 30 and grownups 55-67 in charge. Todays 30-55 year old is not career focused and Gen X was never career focused. Look at Jamie Dimon can’t find anyone in a 350,000 person company with his work ethic |
Hours at my first job (in the 90s) were 9-6. I don't know who the 9-5 song was for! Beyond that I never had hours but had to work 8 hours, so usually ate at my desk. Again, not sure where the "paid" lunches are. |
The song is from 1980. Yeah basically layoffs started in 80s, and they started turning the screws. |