Gen Z now wants to get paid for breaks

Anonymous
Gen Z women are good. It is the Gen Z men that are bad.

A girl at work married a man from NJ on their Honeymoon the rental needed gas and she needed to fill gas tank up for him as he did not know how to do it.

These are the “men” the Gen Z women get to marry
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Anonymous wrote:I'm really not impressed with the recent grads. They seem to have had their hands held a little too firmly throughout their 'academic' careers and seem to expect I continue to do so as their boss, for tasks they should really start to figure out how to own themselves. No, I do not want to talk to you every hour to give you feedback as if the point of work was to give you an A+ and a smile at the end. These kids have never failed at anything, apparently, and don't seem to want to do so now. That's a shame.


You are bad at your job. It’s your job to communicate expectations clearly.


Nah, previous poster is right. Gen Z is a product of massive grade inflation, helicopter parenting, instant gratification, and never having any setbacks in life. Teachers were afraid to give them C, D, and Fs they probably deserved. They all think they're straight A students who are the smartest in the room when in reality they're probably C- grade level grads once you subtract their huge grade inflation out.

Hell, they've never even really had to tough out a single major economic recession yet in their professional working life. They're going to fold like tacos once a real economic S storm happens.


So you're saying it's the fault of older generations? I agree with you. The older generations did a disservice to ourselves and Gen Z. But it's just like us to place the blame anywhere else.


We can only try to provide an environment where this generation is encouraged to rise to challenges and that failure is not the end of the world. Or at least, I try to use my experience to get things back on track hoping something was learned from the experience. For every 4 people that need coddling there's one that starts to thrive. Maybe that makes me bad at my job, but I do clearly communicate that I need problem solvers, and if I need to provide an entire fill in the blank solution for them like it's homework, then they're already being replaced by AI.
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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z women are good. It is the Gen Z men that are bad.

A girl at work married a man from NJ on their Honeymoon the rental needed gas and she needed to fill gas tank up for him as he did not know how to do it.

These are the “men” the Gen Z women get to marry


Oh please. The females are just as bad. My wife used to work at a university in payroll. So many Gen Z were absolutely worthless when it came to personal responsibility. One girl came storming into the payroll office because she wasn't getting paid for her campus job and was 'starving' since she was running out of money for groceries. Long story short, this dimwitted Gen Z female was so lazy she never setup a direct deposit and was getting checks mailed. She ended up moving to another apartment and it never dawned on her precious little that gee, if I still want to receive my paychecks in the mail that maybe I should inform the payroll department of my address change. Worse yet, she didn't even come in stating there was anything wrong until 6 months after she had moved!

Such a dimwitted Gen Z female. The entire generation is stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:I feel like they are smart and understand at 25 what some 50yo still don't get.


Gen Z knows way less than boomers or silent generation people did at a young age.

My uncle for instance was drafted in WWII at 18, fought the Germans and survived returned home worked as a bouncer and was a golden glover boxer, and got married, bought a house and had a kid by 25. He then joined NYC Police where he retired a captain.

Todays 25 year old thinks attending a zoom meeting is worthy of a Nobel peace prize.

To be fair their parents babied them and no wars in their life.

My own mother and father started full time work at 14. No HS back then.

The airplane with Wright Brothers 1903 and we landed on moon just 66 years later. We build Empire State Building one year. What are these kids getting done today ?


You mean, besides Iraq and Afghanistan? Until we left Afghanistan, we had been at war for my now 22 year olds ENTIRE life.

I love this generation BTW. And not just the ones I gave birth to. Smart, engaged, kind, empathetic, and much harder working and with much more direction in HS and college than GenX. Had to be, to get into a college as UMC students that UMC parents could pay for. They have different ideas than my generation. And good for them. The world is a different place. We need younger people to help us change with it. They are also less willing to just accept what they are told. Given Trump was President during their for their for their formative years, they should be.

Some of their ideas will make work and our nation better. And some are duds. As has been the case for every generation. But, they are less afraid to be themselves and less willing to conform. Which may make Boomers uncomfortable. But, the Boomer got their chance to remake the world in their image. And now they think they should have a moratorium on change. Not the way that works. You had your shot. Now it’s someone else’s turn.

By the numbers women are very overrepresented in college and most college educated professions. Which brings different values, like work life balance. But I don’t want us to become Japan or South Korea, where the women getting 2/3 of the college degrees discover that is it’s impossible to both have a job that enables them supports kids and, you know, actually have kids. Which is necessary for social security and the economy.

I’m sure you have a lot to teach Gen Z. But it never dawns on you that they could teach you something.



You mean the country that only 17% of Gen Z can identify on a map?

https://www.edweek.org/education/afghanistan-young-americans-cant-find-it-on-map-survey-finds/2002/11
Anonymous
Tim Elmore's book "A New Kind of Diversity" deals with this topic.

I have had a terrible time with young millennial and Gen z over the last year. Really tough to get them in the door for an in person client facing job. When given work from home projects, they take 2x as long if they get done at all, and want a gold star for the trouble. It's rough out there.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm really not impressed with the recent grads. They seem to have had their hands held a little too firmly throughout their 'academic' careers and seem to expect I continue to do so as their boss, for tasks they should really start to figure out how to own themselves. No, I do not want to talk to you every hour to give you feedback as if the point of work was to give you an A+ and a smile at the end. These kids have never failed at anything, apparently, and don't seem to want to do so now. That's a shame.


You are bad at your job. It’s your job to communicate expectations clearly.


Nah, previous poster is right. Gen Z is a product of massive grade inflation, helicopter parenting, instant gratification, and never having any setbacks in life. Teachers were afraid to give them C, D, and Fs they probably deserved. They all think they're straight A students who are the smartest in the room when in reality they're probably C- grade level grads once you subtract their huge grade inflation out.

Hell, they've never even really had to tough out a single major economic recession yet in their professional working life. They're going to fold like tacos once a real economic S storm happens.


Actually they are buried in student loans in a pay to play system, receive no training, no pensions, no career longevity. They have to be nearly perfect to get into colleges that their parents with unimpressive credentials breezed through. They have to compete with talent from across the country and across the world for wages that have not kept up with inflation and can scarcely allow them to buy a house or start a family.

They are pretty impressive and I appreciate their shrewdness at work. They will ask many questions as they need to gauge what’s the desired final outcome or impact of their work. No, they don’t want to do busywork or keep reworking to cater to a self focused manager. They will sniff out artificial deadlines and low value work that only benefits the job security of their manager.
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