alternates to Georgetown and Yale

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Anonymous wrote:perfect 36 is a lot different than 36 across the board in one sitting. many many kids have 36 superscored.

one AO told us they consider a 36 on ACT = 1560 SAT

Sorry, I worded that wrong. just saying there are many kids who submit a 36 due to superscoring. which is why they're not considered "perfect". we should really have to inform schools how many sittings a kid uses.

So...this begs the question....what ####SAT do they consider a superscored 1600 SAT score to be? Also 1560? 1580?

The SAT/ACT concordance table says 36 ACT = 1570-1600 SAT

Hasn’t been updated since 2018

Well known that ACT is easier than the SAT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:perfect 36 is a lot different than 36 across the board in one sitting. many many kids have 36 superscored.

one AO told us they consider a 36 on ACT = 1560 SAT

Sorry, I worded that wrong. just saying there are many kids who submit a 36 due to superscoring. which is why they're not considered "perfect". we should really have to inform schools how many sittings a kid uses.

So...this begs the question....what ####SAT do they consider a superscored 1600 SAT score to be? Also 1560? 1580?

The SAT/ACT concordance table says 36 ACT = 1570-1600 SAT

Hasn’t been updated since 2018

Well known that ACT is easier than the SAT.

They are different, and equivalent. Individual preferences vary. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/education/student-resources/act-vs-sat/#:~:text=The%20SAT%20is%20not%20harder,be%20best%20suited%20for%20you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:perfect 36 is a lot different than 36 across the board in one sitting. many many kids have 36 superscored.

one AO told us they consider a 36 on ACT = 1560 SAT

Sorry, I worded that wrong. just saying there are many kids who submit a 36 due to superscoring. which is why they're not considered "perfect". we should really have to inform schools how many sittings a kid uses.

So...this begs the question....what ####SAT do they consider a superscored 1600 SAT score to be? Also 1560? 1580?

The SAT/ACT concordance table says 36 ACT = 1570-1600 SAT

Hasn’t been updated since 2018

Well known that ACT is easier than the SAT.

it's easier to get a "perfect score" with the ACT. you dont even need a 36 in all subsections. which is why it's not the same as a 1600.

But really, anyone with a 1530/35+ are treated the same by colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe take a look through this:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/02/20/top-fifty-schools-international-relations-foreign-policy/

American is ranked above Hopkins and Tufts in IR??? This list seems … interesting.

[Anonymous]

So you are in NYS and want a DC based board to research merit schools in NYS for you?

Ask on you school/neighborhood listserv.

I get that we have people from all over here now, especially since urbanbaby is gone, but this is DCUM. You need a NY based board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:perfect 36 is a lot different than 36 across the board in one sitting. many many kids have 36 superscored.

one AO told us they consider a 36 on ACT = 1560 SAT

? Concordance table says 36 ACT = 1590 SAT

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:we're a full pay family who is looking for alternatives to my kids dream schools of Harvard, Yale, Georgetown.

boy, high stats, national awards, humanities major.

I guess we'd have a hard time turning down Harvard, etc. But I'd like to skip over the rest of the T20 schools. I'm not sure Georgetown is worth it, but I guess for the SFS. But places like Tufts, BC at 90k makes no sense to me.

Can someone think of some schools with merit aid that might work. In NYS. Binghamton doesn't make his eyes light up, which I get. Doesn't want a SLAC

So you are a full pay family, but only willing to pay for Harvard and Yale and nowhere else in the top 20.

So forget about Vanderbilt, Brown, Princeton, MIT (great English Dept), Penn, Stanford, Northwestern, Duke, Chicago, Dartmouth and Notre Dame. Because, like Georgetown, they are totally not worth it.

Nor do you want to send your humanities major son to SLACs that thrive in the humanities - Williams, Swarthmore, Amherst, Bowdoin, Carlton, Grinnell.

You have a high stats kid, which is good. With national awards, which is good. And he is a boy who wants to do humanities, which is a major hook.

But, for you, all the schools above are off the list. He can only go where he will get merit.

And you think SUNY-Binghampton would be a good place for your son and are a little upset that he wasn't feeling the love for a commuter school.

OK.

So for merit at non-SLACs, I'd look at Alabama, Ole Miss, Arizona, Iowa, and Arizona. And hopefully he has a good experience, because he will resent you forever for denying him better schools as a wealthy family that could have offered better.

I have two kids who got really good merit (more than 20k a year) at Duke, ND and Vandy (btw the two of them).

So that is incorrect.

It is okay for a student not to want to go to school with 1500 kids and 30% of them are on teams.

And Bing is not a commuter school.

Who are you people?

Your kids didn't get partial merit at Duke. Who are YOU?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:perfect 36 is a lot different than 36 across the board in one sitting. many many kids have 36 superscored.

one AO told us they consider a 36 on ACT = 1560 SAT

? Concordance table says 36 ACT = 1590 SAT

It's a range of 1570-1600...so a 36 can be as low as a 1570, which is what I believe my son's 36 was. He got 36 in science and English and 35 in reading and math...so just barely got the 36.

[Anonymous]

This thread is hilarious. Classic DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we're a full pay family who is looking for alternatives to my kids dream schools of Harvard, Yale, Georgetown.

boy, high stats, national awards, humanities major.

I guess we'd have a hard time turning down Harvard, etc. But I'd like to skip over the rest of the T20 schools. I'm not sure Georgetown is worth it, but I guess for the SFS. But places like Tufts, BC at 90k makes no sense to me.

Can someone think of some schools with merit aid that might work. In NYS. Binghamton doesn't make his eyes light up, which I get. Doesn't want a SLAC

So you are a full pay family, but only willing to pay for Harvard and Yale and nowhere else in the top 20.

So forget about Vanderbilt, Brown, Princeton, MIT (great English Dept), Penn, Stanford, Northwestern, Duke, Chicago, Dartmouth and Notre Dame. Because, like Georgetown, they are totally not worth it.

Nor do you want to send your humanities major son to SLACs that thrive in the humanities - Williams, Swarthmore, Amherst, Bowdoin, Carlton, Grinnell.

You have a high stats kid, which is good. With national awards, which is good. And he is a boy who wants to do humanities, which is a major hook.

But, for you, all the schools above are off the list. He can only go where he will get merit.

And you think SUNY-Binghampton would be a good place for your son and are a little upset that he wasn't feeling the love for a commuter school.

OK.

So for merit at non-SLACs, I'd look at Alabama, Ole Miss, Arizona, Iowa, and Arizona. And hopefully he has a good experience, because he will resent you forever for denying him better schools as a wealthy family that could have offered better.

I have two kids who got really good merit (more than 20k a year) at Duke, ND and Vandy (btw the two of them).

So that is incorrect.

It is okay for a student not to want to go to school with 1500 kids and 30% of them are on teams.

And Bing is not a commuter school.

Who are you people?

Your kids didn't get partial merit at Duke. Who are YOU?

duke has merit aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you are in NYS and want a DC based board to research merit schools in NYS for you?

Ask on you school/neighborhood listserv.

I get that we have people from all over here now, especially since urbanbaby is gone, but this is DCUM. You need a NY based board.

I speak for all NYers here when I say, we'd 100% rather be on UB or YBM but RIP

[Anonymous]

Even in the 80s (when I was there) GU was full of students who "settled" for it when they got rejected by Yale.

Shoutout to my old classmate whose grandpa was a Yale trustee but still got rejected there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you are in NYS and want a DC based board to research merit schools in NYS for you?

Ask on you school/neighborhood listserv.

I get that we have people from all over here now, especially since urbanbaby is gone, but this is DCUM. You need a NY based board.

I speak for all NYers here when I say, we'd 100% rather be on UB or YBM but RIP

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we're a full pay family who is looking for alternatives to my kids dream schools of Harvard, Yale, Georgetown.

boy, high stats, national awards, humanities major.

I guess we'd have a hard time turning down Harvard, etc. But I'd like to skip over the rest of the T20 schools. I'm not sure Georgetown is worth it, but I guess for the SFS. But places like Tufts, BC at 90k makes no sense to me.

Can someone think of some schools with merit aid that might work. In NYS. Binghamton doesn't make his eyes light up, which I get. Doesn't want a SLAC

omg, you are new to the world of college admissions aren't you? Your white privilege is showing. Your kid will be LUCKY to get into a T100. Every single applicant is as, you described "boy, high stats, national awards, humanities major". well, that was my kid but with a 36 ACT, valedictorian, eagle scout, etc. SCEA Princeton deferred/waitlisted; all ivies, waitlisted; public EA: purdue, Ga Tech and UVA all for aerospace engineering.

Honey, you got to drop your expectations, omg "I guess we'd have a hard time turning down Harvard". My DS, legacy, and all that above was waitlisted, i.e., soft rejection, because unlike colleagues I know from Harvard, we could not pay the seven digit fee to get in.

If you are URM or first generation you might have a chance. Otherwise start reading because you are in for a shock

I hate this, “my kid didn’t get in bcs he’s not minority” bullshit.

+1. It's the entitlement for me. PP constantly puts out butt hurt posts over how their triple legacy at Yale with faculty connections DS was turned down simply for not donating enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we're a full pay family who is looking for alternatives to my kids dream schools of Harvard, Yale, Georgetown.

boy, high stats, national awards, humanities major.

I guess we'd have a hard time turning down Harvard, etc. But I'd like to skip over the rest of the T20 schools. I'm not sure Georgetown is worth it, but I guess for the SFS. But places like Tufts, BC at 90k makes no sense to me.

Can someone think of some schools with merit aid that might work. In NYS. Binghamton doesn't make his eyes light up, which I get. Doesn't want a SLAC

omg, you are new to the world of college admissions aren't you? Your white privilege is showing. Your kid will be LUCKY to get into a T100. Every single applicant is as, you described "boy, high stats, national awards, humanities major". well, that was my kid but with a 36 ACT, valedictorian, eagle scout, etc. SCEA Princeton deferred/waitlisted; all ivies, waitlisted; public EA: purdue, Ga Tech and UVA all for aerospace engineering.

Honey, you got to drop your expectations, omg "I guess we'd have a hard time turning down Harvard". My DS, legacy, and all that above was waitlisted, i.e., soft rejection, because unlike colleagues I know from Harvard, we could not pay the seven digit fee to get in.

If you are URM or first generation you might have a chance. Otherwise start reading because you are in for a shock

I hate this, “my kid didn’t get in bcs he’s not minority” bullshit.

+1. It's the entitlement for me. PP constantly puts out butt hurt posts over how their triple legacy at Yale with faculty connections DS was turned down simply for not donating enough.

lol I’ve seen those