Every homeowner is happy that housing prices are up - so two thirds of Americans. “The homeownership rate in the United States rose slightly in 2022, reaching the highest figure since 2011. In 2022, the proportion of households which are occupied by owners stood at 65.9 percent.” https://www.statista.com/statistics/184902/homeownership-rate-in-the-us-since-2003/ |
How can you possibly know who frequents this site? It’s an anonymous site of strangers. People from all over the country post on here. I’ve been on here for years and most of the time can’t tell how much a poster makes, where they live, if they’re male or female, or even if it’s a legit post. You both seem to have a fantasy of what a “liberal” is and it’s probably just as wrong as what a liberal’s fantasy is of what a “conservative” is. Grow up. |
And, then, along comes 2023 2023 U.S. home sales fell to nearly 30-year low https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-01-19/2023-was-slowest-year-for-us-home-sales-in-nearly-30-years-as-high-mortgage-rates-frustrated-buyers Home Sales Were the Lowest in Almost 30 Years in 2023 "Home sales last year dropped to the lowest level in nearly three decades, after elevated mortgage rates and a lack of homes for sale shut out buyers. Existing-home sales slid 19% in 2023 from the prior year to 4.09 million, the National Association of Realtors said Friday." https://www.wsj.com/economy/housing/home-sales-likely-fell-to-15-year-low-in-2023-3da220e1# |
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One thing that’s weird is that consumer spending hasn’t really slowed. So with rising prices people are still spending more and more so I guess it’s not surprising savings are down. I get these quarterly economic updates in my job and I keep expecting things like travel spending to crash, but it hasn’t.
The four year presidential cycle is a real conundrum because by the time one president’s economic policies take effect for real, it’s often the next administration. Part of the problem we are seeing now was created by past administrations that built dependence on Chinese manufacturing, which has now led yo shortages and inflation. And the real estate prices are insane because interest rates were insanely low for so long so people kept bidding higher and higher because with 3% mortgages, you can afford to. I don’t even know what Trump’s economic plan is now….he has never articulated anything. Is he going to cut taxes for the rich even more? Deregulate? Who really knows. I’m not at all confident he will het anyone competent to work for him given what happened to people in his last administration. Biden may be slipping but he’ll let competent people do their jobs. Trump is all about Trump so God only knows what he’ll do. |
| This is both a cultural problem and a structural economic/policy problem. It is definitely common for people to experience financial difficulties due to unexpected healthcare expenses. However, there is also a cultural component that is incredibly important. Americans have a much lower personal savings rate in comparison to many wealthy European and Asian countries. There are a lot of people making bad financial decisions in the US where people in other wealthy countries would likely make better choices. |
Those aren’t home prices, they’re the number of homes sold. Why do I have to keep explaining this. |
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Home sales are low because people don't want to move, mostly because they are locked into lower interest rates. That has nothing to do with how much a house is worth. In our area, there is no shortage of 'all cash' buyers at every cost band, well into the millions. |
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If you're retiring and planning on downsizing, then maybe having housing prices go up is great for you. People aren't selling their houses for cash in Arlington, and then moving to Omaha to settle.
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| OP, I hear you calling for an increase in the federal minimum wage. And for stronger unions, so that workers have higher salaries and can save more. Good for you! I agree! |
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New poster here and in political discussion as a whole. I am ACTUALLY middle (lower middle???) class and I totally agree the middle is stretched. What I am horrified about right now is that I am seeing LOTS of middle-class families with dependents like me who are used to getting that nice $1000-$1500 boost this time of year in the form of a tax refund and are now owing that amount of money— I’ve been seeing all over social media. Bad combo, I have a different bonus of $2500 coming in 2 weeks that I have never ever gotten before. I had big plans for it but now it is going 70% to freaking taxes for the first time ever.
Mark my works (I hate that phrase) this is going to be a crisis |
Happy? No. People who look on their homes as investments might be happy. The rest of us would prefer lower property taxes. |
This is because the Trump tax cut bill, which was the only piece of legislation he was able to pass while Republicans held all three branches of government, let all the tax cuts for regular people expire while making the tax cuts for big corporations permanent. |