No homework???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

They're right about hw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

They're right about hw.

+1, if you want your kid to have homework, then buy a workbook, download free pages from the Internet, or check out a book from the library. All of these options are available at minimal or no cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

They're right about hw.

So you disagree with this entire thread. Please explain why all of us, who see the value in hw (or at least are seeing the harm in the lack of hw) are wrong?

[Anonymous]

The schools are loud. The classrooms are chaotic. The students can learn better in a quiet home environment. Some kids can’t even focus in the school. Then can settle down at home and apply the material. They can memorize easily at home because it’s a quiet, settled environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

They're right about hw.

So you disagree with this entire thread. Please explain why all of us, who see the value in hw (or at least are seeing the harm in the lack of hw) are wrong?

I didn't say you were flat out wrong, it's just a difference of opinion. I disagree with hw, you don't, no big deal. But, hw is usually just busy work and kids get way too much of it. Also, most adults don't bring their day jobs home, why should kids? The school day is long enough, let kids be kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The schools are loud. The classrooms are chaotic. The students can learn better in a quiet home environment. Some kids can’t even focus in the school. Then can settle down at home and apply the material. They can memorize easily at home because it’s a quiet, settled environment.

So one vote for homeschooling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

They're right about hw.

So you disagree with this entire thread. Please explain why all of us, who see the value in hw (or at least are seeing the harm in the lack of hw) are wrong?

I didn't say you were flat out wrong, it's just a difference of opinion. I disagree with hw, you don't, no big deal. But, hw is usually just busy work and kids get way too much of it. Also, most adults don't bring their day jobs home, why should kids? The school day is long enough, let kids be kids.

We like to say that school is a child's job but it isn't, it is about learning. When you take music lessons, you practice outside of the lessons at home. Same for drawing classes or writing classes or any classes. Practice at home, or studying at home, or both, is a part of the expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

They're right about hw.

So you disagree with this entire thread. Please explain why all of us, who see the value in hw (or at least are seeing the harm in the lack of hw) are wrong?

I didn't say you were flat out wrong, it's just a difference of opinion. I disagree with hw, you don't, no big deal. But, hw is usually just busy work and kids get way too much of it. Also, most adults don't bring their day jobs home, why should kids? The school day is long enough, let kids be kids.

+1
And those who do the hw incorrectly, particularly math, have spent all that time further solidifying their misunderstanding that then takes that much longer to correct.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

They're right about hw.

So you disagree with this entire thread. Please explain why all of us, who see the value in hw (or at least are seeing the harm in the lack of hw) are wrong?

I didn't say you were flat out wrong, it's just a difference of opinion. I disagree with hw, you don't, no big deal. But, hw is usually just busy work and kids get way too much of it. Also, most adults don't bring their day jobs home, why should kids? The school day is long enough, let kids be kids.

We like to say that school is a child's job but it isn't, it is about learning. When you take music lessons, you practice outside of the lessons at home. Same for drawing classes or writing classes or any classes. Practice at home, or studying at home, or both, is a part of the expectations.

Same for sports. Why not just let kids be kids and remove practices. Skill drills aren't fun anyway. No more demeaning tryouts either. Let everyone play the game and just have fun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

They're right about hw.

So you disagree with this entire thread. Please explain why all of us, who see the value in hw (or at least are seeing the harm in the lack of hw) are wrong?

I didn't say you were flat out wrong, it's just a difference of opinion. I disagree with hw, you don't, no big deal. But, hw is usually just busy work and kids get way too much of it. Also, most adults don't bring their day jobs home, why should kids? The school day is long enough, let kids be kids.

We like to say that school is a child's job but it isn't, it is about learning. When you take music lessons, you practice outside of the lessons at home. Same for drawing classes or writing classes or any classes. Practice at home, or studying at home, or both, is a part of the expectations.

Same for sports. Why not just let kids be kids and remove practices. Skill drills aren't fun anyway. No more demeaning tryouts either. Let everyone play the game and just have fun.

But don’t they practice in school enough since they are there for literally for 7 hours a day? Then shorten the school day. Kids don’t have enough time outside of school hours to do all the homework that some classes assign plus the extracurriculars plus downtime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

They're right about hw.

So you disagree with this entire thread. Please explain why all of us, who see the value in hw (or at least are seeing the harm in the lack of hw) are wrong?

I didn't say you were flat out wrong, it's just a difference of opinion. I disagree with hw, you don't, no big deal. But, hw is usually just busy work and kids get way too much of it. Also, most adults don't bring their day jobs home, why should kids? The school day is long enough, let kids be kids.

We like to say that school is a child's job but it isn't, it is about learning. When you take music lessons, you practice outside of the lessons at home. Same for drawing classes or writing classes or any classes. Practice at home, or studying at home, or both, is a part of the expectations.

Same for sports. Why not just let kids be kids and remove practices. Skill drills aren't fun anyway. No more demeaning tryouts either. Let everyone play the game and just have fun.

But don’t they practice in school enough since they are there for literally for 7 hours a day? Then shorten the school day. Kids don’t have enough time outside of school hours to do all the homework that some classes assign plus the extracurriculars plus downtime.

It's actually true that excellent homeschoolers can typically finish an elementary day in 3 hours (I know kids who got into TJ from homeschool and did well, I'm not talking about the crazy slacker homeschooler stereotype). If you could somehow trim down the school day to just academics it would definitely not need to be 7 hours long.

That said the kids actually spend so much time on SEL, morning meeting, transition time, specials, lunch, recess, random group projects, and other things that I don't think they even do 3 hours of solid academic practice. We get precious few worksheets in the take-home folder AND simultaneously precious few slide decks on Schoology, so the kids aren't doing "drill and kill" type math activities in the classroom day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

They're right about hw.

So you disagree with this entire thread. Please explain why all of us, who see the value in hw (or at least are seeing the harm in the lack of hw) are wrong?

I didn't say you were flat out wrong, it's just a difference of opinion. I disagree with hw, you don't, no big deal. But, hw is usually just busy work and kids get way too much of it. Also, most adults don't bring their day jobs home, why should kids? The school day is long enough, let kids be kids.

When learning a new skill many of my co-workers actually do some reading/studying/learning at home after work. But most employees aren't learning new skills. That's just flat different than what's happening with kids.

I wouldn't advocate for a ton of homework. But 20-30 minutes a night of either a math worksheet, grammar worksheet, something that reviews social studies, or similar would be a welcome change compared to the nothing my kids do. They can easily do that, their extracurriculars, and some down time to play.

[Anonymous]

No homework is the consequence of the American society's collective decision to low-pay public school teachers. Preparing and grading homework, writing recommendation letters, among other tasks, take outside teacher contract hours. With the already abysmal compensation, what do we expect from our teachers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No homework is the consequence of the American society's collective decision to low-pay public school teachers. Preparing and grading homework, writing recommendation letters, among other tasks, take outside teacher contract hours. With the already abysmal compensation, what do we expect from our teachers?

I'd argue the bigger problem is all the administrative headache of covering Gatehouse's rear end on things like documenting IEPs and doing pointless training. Less of that would make more time for preparing and grading homework. Having a more set curriculum where homework was provided in a textbook/workbook would help to - no preparation then, just grading. For drilling math concepts it should be stupid easy to grab worksheets as provided by a curriculum then grade them against an answer key.

[Anonymous]

No homework is a plan for failure. U.S. schools have dropped in world ranking - how could the current method of teaching in the U.S. be wrong?
We need to go back to basics - reading, writing and arithmetic.