No homework???

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Anonymous wrote:everyone passes
even in high school no homework or test everyone gets A & B,

As a HS math teacher, I can assure you this is not true. Around 60% of my students have As and Bs. 30% have Cs, and 10% have Ds and Fs. This is across the board, even in my AP classes. People on DCUM like to whine that grades are so inflated and anything less than an A basically means you're failing, but it's not true.

The kids come to you unprepared from elementary and middle school. If they had homework they would be better prepared. On top of this the high school classes are now much easier. AP is now the new honors. AAP the new regular ed. It is just all much less rigor and practice.

Wrong. As someone who used to assign homework religiously, the kids who needed the extra practice either: a) didn't even attempt, or b) attempted it completed wrong. The ones who didn't need it tended to do it to fluff up their grade even further.

Homework helped a very slim section of my classes who sort of got it, sort of didn't and had someone (parent, tutor, sibling) at home who could support them in working through problems. The ONLY homework that was beneficial to everyone was pre-reading/watching--that's why some teachers flip their classes. Now? I assign enough problems IN CLASS that once they are completed I am confident the student knows how to do the skill. If it takes them 40 minutes, they have free time at the end of class. If it takes them an hour, they use the whole work time. If it takes more than that? We work together in class to get as far as we can, and then they come back in study hall, after school, or lunch for additional help.

My AP curriculum is harder/more stringent today than it was 10 years ago. The criteria to pass the test is far more rigorous than it used to be. I give minimal homework there, but always have opportunities for students to do it with me. It is a program that allows them to take the 5 question homework quizzes a dozen times until they get a valid score. Usually they learn real quick to attempt it in my presence so they can ask questions/get support.

Okay, but that's just for high school students. Now do elementary. For those 3rd graders who get a week to learn their multiplication tables. Or the 5th graders struggling with multiplying fractions. You don't think those kids would benefit from having some homework sent home?

No, because they still don’t know how to do it at home so as one of the PP’s mentioned, they’re either getting them all wrong and/or they’re doing it incorrectly.

Parents can help with this.

Some parents can, many can or will not.

It’s unfortunate. Just provide it but don’t grade it.

People can choose to do it or not. If many kids get it wrong, reenforce the concept at the next class period. If they can’t reasonably perform the homework, then it’s a good indication they aren’t retaining the lesson well.

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Anonymous wrote:Just moved into the county and was told by my elementary and middle schools that they don’t give ANY homework. Is that right?? Is it just by schools or is this FCPS wide?

How in the heck can students be prepared without any homework??

Why do you think homework is beneficial?

At least in middle school most have block scheduling. There's plenty of time to do work in class.

And also, there was a huge parent rebellion against homework about a decade ago that is having lingering effects. It made the CRT nonsense look like a tempest in a tea pot.

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If these kids were given 5-10 minutes of math homework a night, the problem would be solved.

No it would not be.

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Anonymous wrote:Private schools still give homework.

But that isn't a virtue, of course.

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Public schools no longer teach the 3 Rs, so no need for homework. Too busy spending time educating kids on critical social justice issues. Schools didn’t/don’t want that material going home, so no homework.

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For sure this crazy no HW trend will be seen as malpractice in the years to come.

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Anonymous wrote:No homework, at least in elementary school, is in line with contemporary education research and best practices.

I substitute in FCPS and the general classes are full of kids that can’t do basic math. If these kids were given 5-10 minutes of math homework a night, the problem would be solved.

Even if we just had kids drilling each other with flash cards for 10 minutes it would help. Get rid of morning meeting and do that.

+1 million.

But it's not just the kids who can't do math. My very math-y kid struggles to do problems quickly because of the lack of practice on the basics. She understands every single concept, but she hasn't done it until it's automatic. If she tries to go quickly (say, for a test), she messes up something simple. I'm convinced a few speed drills along the way and a nightly math worksheet from 4th-6th would have helped.

It’s never too late. You can print them free off the Internet.

I did for a good long while. And then her teacher started taking up her free time by assigning extra ST Math, we assume because the county started pushing a minimum number of ST Math minutes. We'll get back to it.

I taught my kids to read (since the county didn't do science of reading when they were younger, and still barely does). I taught them to spell. I taught them handwriting. I'll make sure they can do their math automatically too. It's just painful that they waste 6+ hours a day doing...I'm not sure how to even describe it...and I teach them the 3 Rs after school and in the summer.

+100. You have to teach reading, writing, spelling, grammar, math facts, and math fluency all at home!

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Anonymous wrote:Public schools no longer teach the 3 Rs, so no need for homework. Too busy spending time educating kids on critical social justice issues. Schools didn’t/don’t want that material going home, so no homework.

Literally, a lie. I asked my HS kid about a variety of these issues and are they taught? The answer is NO. The kids do talk among themselves depending their interests, background, what they're hearing. But it's a bald-face, bullsh-- lie to say any sort of curriculum relevant to the bolded is taught in FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:No homework, at least in elementary school, is in line with contemporary education research and best practices.

I substitute in FCPS and the general classes are full of kids that can’t do basic math. If these kids were given 5-10 minutes of math homework a night, the problem would be solved.

Even if we just had kids drilling each other with flash cards for 10 minutes it would help. Get rid of morning meeting and do that.

+1 million.

But it's not just the kids who can't do math. My very math-y kid struggles to do problems quickly because of the lack of practice on the basics. She understands every single concept, but she hasn't done it until it's automatic. If she tries to go quickly (say, for a test), she messes up something simple. I'm convinced a few speed drills along the way and a nightly math worksheet from 4th-6th would have helped.

It’s never too late. You can print them free off the Internet.

I did for a good long while. And then her teacher started taking up her free time by assigning extra ST Math, we assume because the county started pushing a minimum number of ST Math minutes. We'll get back to it.

I taught my kids to read (since the county didn't do science of reading when they were younger, and still barely does). I taught them to spell. I taught them handwriting. I'll make sure they can do their math automatically too. It's just painful that they waste 6+ hours a day doing...I'm not sure how to even describe it...and I teach them the 3 Rs after school and in the summer.

+100. You have to teach reading, writing, spelling, grammar, math facts, and math fluency all at home!

I did not teach these things -well, I admit I did have to teach the grammar- but agree the things you state needed to be reinforced at home.

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Not just homework DC's algebra teacher and history teacher told students that the principal prohibited teacher to give student homework in winter break, so there were no homework for the winter break,although they suggested students to spend some time study for the middle term during the winter break. I wonder whether this was a policy made by the principal or FCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:Not just homework DC's algebra teacher and history teacher told students that the principal prohibited teacher to give student homework in winter break, so there were no homework for the winter break,although they suggested students to spend some time study for the middle term during the winter break. I wonder whether this was a policy made by the principal or FCPS?

It’s not the principal. FCPS discourages any homework during breaks.

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FCPS wants to dumb kids down in the name of equity.

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We were at an outrageously expensive private school the last two years, and they prided themselves as being a “no homework school.” They cite all sorts of scholarly studies claiming homework does nothing to help children retain information.
This is not only a public school issue.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:everyone passes
even in high school no homework or test everyone gets A & B,

As a HS math teacher, I can assure you this is not true. Around 60% of my students have As and Bs. 30% have Cs, and 10% have Ds and Fs. This is across the board, even in my AP classes. People on DCUM like to whine that grades are so inflated and anything less than an A basically means you're failing, but it's not true.

The kids come to you unprepared from elementary and middle school. If they had homework they would be better prepared. On top of this the high school classes are now much easier. AP is now the new honors. AAP the new regular ed. It is just all much less rigor and practice.

Wrong. As someone who used to assign homework religiously, the kids who needed the extra practice either: a) didn't even attempt, or b) attempted it completed wrong. The ones who didn't need it tended to do it to fluff up their grade even further.

Homework helped a very slim section of my classes who sort of got it, sort of didn't and had someone (parent, tutor, sibling) at home who could support them in working through problems. The ONLY homework that was beneficial to everyone was pre-reading/watching--that's why some teachers flip their classes. Now? I assign enough problems IN CLASS that once they are completed I am confident the student knows how to do the skill. If it takes them 40 minutes, they have free time at the end of class. If it takes them an hour, they use the whole work time. If it takes more than that? We work together in class to get as far as we can, and then they come back in study hall, after school, or lunch for additional help.

My AP curriculum is harder/more stringent today than it was 10 years ago. The criteria to pass the test is far more rigorous than it used to be. I give minimal homework there, but always have opportunities for students to do it with me. It is a program that allows them to take the 5 question homework quizzes a dozen times until they get a valid score. Usually they learn real quick to attempt it in my presence so they can ask questions/get support.

If this is true for your discipline, it definitely isn't true for mine... All of the AP exams that I am familiar with (about ten) have degraded in rigor pretty substantially.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:No homework, at least in elementary school, is in line with contemporary education research and best practices.

I substitute in FCPS and the general classes are full of kids that can’t do basic math. If these kids were given 5-10 minutes of math homework a night, the problem would be solved.

Even if we just had kids drilling each other with flash cards for 10 minutes it would help. Get rid of morning meeting and do that.

+1 million.

But it's not just the kids who can't do math. My very math-y kid struggles to do problems quickly because of the lack of practice on the basics. She understands every single concept, but she hasn't done it until it's automatic. If she tries to go quickly (say, for a test), she messes up something simple. I'm convinced a few speed drills along the way and a nightly math worksheet from 4th-6th would have helped.

It’s never too late. You can print them free off the Internet.

I did for a good long while. And then her teacher started taking up her free time by assigning extra ST Math, we assume because the county started pushing a minimum number of ST Math minutes. We'll get back to it.

I taught my kids to read (since the county didn't do science of reading when they were younger, and still barely does). I taught them to spell. I taught them handwriting. I'll make sure they can do their math automatically too. It's just painful that they waste 6+ hours a day doing...I'm not sure how to even describe it...and I teach them the 3 Rs after school and in the summer.

+100. You have to teach reading, writing, spelling, grammar, math facts, and math fluency all at home!

True. So much of school is a waste of time. So much of my kids' academic success is derived from work I've done with them at home. The worst part is they have so little time to play after school (total waste of time) and me actually teaching them. I understand the homeschooling parents, though I don't think my kids and I would have a great relationship if we were around each other that much. They need other adults.