VRSC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Elaborate on why you’re laughing at the training environment. As someone who really doesn’t know why, I want to know.

Because their teams are less successful than just about all of the local clubs including the smaller ones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elaborate on why you’re laughing at the training environment. As someone who really doesn’t know why, I want to know.

Quoting from the various GA announcements about the clubs that they've recently accepted:

Westside Metros FC

"The GA is excited to add a club that has a proven pathway of development from their youth through college and into the professional ranks, both domestically and internationally."

Seattle Celtic SC

"Their depth and competitive level will position them for success as a new member competing on an elite girls' soccer platform"

LFCIA SoCal

"Their competitive level and dedication to upholding the values of the GA will continue to grow a conference of proven strength."

SYC

"They have a proven record of player development that aligns with the values of the league."


Now let's see what the GA had to say when they announced that they were accepting Revolution:

"The leadership at VA Revolution have a vision and infrastructure that is sure to elevate the female pathway in the Northern Virginia market."

Wait, what? Vision and infrastructure?!? Wonder why they cited that instead of things like a "proven record of player development" or their teams "competitive level"? You know, the things that they cite for just about every other club that they accept. That should give you a hint about how good their training environment is, especially for a club that is going to play in one of the two supposedly "highest tiers" of girls travel soccer.

Wow. That does look bad by comparison when the best things you can point out in a press announcement are “vision” and “infrastructure”. Not even sure I get the infrastructure bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elaborate on why you’re laughing at the training environment. As someone who really doesn’t know why, I want to know.

Quoting from the various GA announcements about the clubs that they've recently accepted:

Westside Metros FC

"The GA is excited to add a club that has a proven pathway of development from their youth through college and into the professional ranks, both domestically and internationally."

Seattle Celtic SC

"Their depth and competitive level will position them for success as a new member competing on an elite girls' soccer platform"

LFCIA SoCal

"Their competitive level and dedication to upholding the values of the GA will continue to grow a conference of proven strength."

SYC

"They have a proven record of player development that aligns with the values of the league."


Now let's see what the GA had to say when they announced that they were accepting Revolution:

"The leadership at VA Revolution have a vision and infrastructure that is sure to elevate the female pathway in the Northern Virginia market."

Wait, what? Vision and infrastructure?!? Wonder why they cited that instead of things like a "proven record of player development" or their teams "competitive level"? You know, the things that they cite for just about every other club that they accept. That should give you a hint about how good their training environment is, especially for a club that is going to play in one of the two supposedly "highest tiers" of girls travel soccer.

Wow. That does look bad by comparison when the best things you can point out in a press announcement are “vision” and “infrastructure”. Not even sure I get the infrastructure bit.

Infrastructure = sportsplex and privately owned fields

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elaborate on why you’re laughing at the training environment. As someone who really doesn’t know why, I want to know.

Quoting from the various GA announcements about the clubs that they've recently accepted:

Westside Metros FC

"The GA is excited to add a club that has a proven pathway of development from their youth through college and into the professional ranks, both domestically and internationally."

Seattle Celtic SC

"Their depth and competitive level will position them for success as a new member competing on an elite girls' soccer platform"

LFCIA SoCal

"Their competitive level and dedication to upholding the values of the GA will continue to grow a conference of proven strength."

SYC

"They have a proven record of player development that aligns with the values of the league."


Now let's see what the GA had to say when they announced that they were accepting Revolution:

"The leadership at VA Revolution have a vision and infrastructure that is sure to elevate the female pathway in the Northern Virginia market."

Wait, what? Vision and infrastructure?!? Wonder why they cited that instead of things like a "proven record of player development" or their teams "competitive level"? You know, the things that they cite for just about every other club that they accept. That should give you a hint about how good their training environment is, especially for a club that is going to play in one of the two supposedly "highest tiers" of girls travel soccer.

this took more energy than it should have….. but u made w valid pt lmao.

Vision and a locker room is all u need apperently

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’ll give out 20-25 GA offers and everybody else gets a dual-roster offer (“You’re a great player and we definitely think you’re on track to play GA but you’re not quite ready just yet. So we want to dual roster you and you’ll train and play with the GA team on a regular basis! In the meantime, we have phenomenal EDP and NCSL teams…”). And then a few short months later, all those players and parents who thought they were going to Revolution to play GA will realize the reality of their situation. But at least Revolution could continue to make their mortgage payment on the Sportsplex!

Is this what FCV has done in the past? Curious since CC is the GA director now at VRSC.

This happens at ECNL clubs also. They just swap the names and offer RL and say dual, offer training with ECNL, rinse and repeat.

Indeed. A lot of big clubs are guilty of doing this with their top teams regardless of whether it’s GA or ECNL. Nobody wants to lose a player to another club because 1) that’s revenue lost and 2) they’d rather have you in their club on the off chance that they might want/need you at some point than to lose you to a competitor. The beauty of youth soccer (from a club’s perspective) is that there’s always a new wave of parents/players coming through who don’t know any better. If you have multiple kids that play soccer, you might have learned this with the first kid and then you’d probably question the sincerity of it with the second kid. But as a percentage, those types of families are, without a doubt, a minority. Before anybody screams “Well, my kid started as a dual roster and they moved up!”, I’m obviously not saying that it never happens, just that it is much more common that it doesn’t. It works out great for the clubs, though, because if they can convince a kid to stick around for a couple of years before they (or their parents) realize that it’s time for a change, that’s still two years of revenue that they collected and, oh look, there’s a new group of players/parents coming in the door right now!

So true! I never knew any ECNL "dual rostered" kids that ever moved up in my former club. It was definitely a tactic to get more talent on the RL team and make $$$ in the process. Sure they trained together but never stepped foot on the field for any ECNL games. Go where you're wanted!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’ll give out 20-25 GA offers and everybody else gets a dual-roster offer (“You’re a great player and we definitely think you’re on track to play GA but you’re not quite ready just yet. So we want to dual roster you and you’ll train and play with the GA team on a regular basis! In the meantime, we have phenomenal EDP and NCSL teams…”). And then a few short months later, all those players and parents who thought they were going to Revolution to play GA will realize the reality of their situation. But at least Revolution could continue to make their mortgage payment on the Sportsplex!

Is this what FCV has done in the past? Curious since CC is the GA director now at VRSC.

That is exactly what they did in the past. They even brought in new players after the season started when they already had more girls on the team than they could dress for games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’ll give out 20-25 GA offers and everybody else gets a dual-roster offer (“You’re a great player and we definitely think you’re on track to play GA but you’re not quite ready just yet. So we want to dual roster you and you’ll train and play with the GA team on a regular basis! In the meantime, we have phenomenal EDP and NCSL teams…”). And then a few short months later, all those players and parents who thought they were going to Revolution to play GA will realize the reality of their situation. But at least Revolution could continue to make their mortgage payment on the Sportsplex!

Is this what FCV has done in the past? Curious since CC is the GA director now at VRSC.

That is exactly what they did in the past. They even brought in new players after the season started when they already had more girls on the team than they could dress for games.

I wonder how the VRSC parents will deal with going from being happy their kid makes GA to wondering why they had to purchase uniforms when their kid is never allowed to dress for games

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I wonder how the VRSC parents will deal with going from being happy their kid makes GA to wondering why they had to purchase uniforms when their kid is never allowed to dress for games

Putting something on VRSC that hasn't even happened yet, let's see how it plays out. Until then, we could ask the FCV parents how they deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the VRSC parents will deal with going from being happy their kid makes GA to wondering why they had to purchase uniforms when their kid is never allowed to dress for games

“Oh that won’t happen to my DD! They told me she’s really good and they can definitely see her playing GA!” 😉

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the VRSC parents will deal with going from being happy their kid makes GA to wondering why they had to purchase uniforms when their kid is never allowed to dress for games

“Oh that won’t happen to my DD! They told me she’s really good and they can definitely see her playing GA!” 😉

lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the VRSC parents will deal with going from being happy their kid makes GA to wondering why they had to purchase uniforms when their kid is never allowed to dress for games

I'm guessing they'll want to make the most of their new acceptance into GA by slapping the GA name on every team in some form or fashion. GA, GA2, GA II, GA Rising, GA Next, Pre-GA, Almost GA, etc. They know that parents and players are chasing that badge even if they don't realize that there can only be 30 girls on the GA team roster and 18 that can play league games. Here, iron this GA patch on your jersey and then hurry up and get going so you're not late to your EDP game!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I wonder how the VRSC parents will deal with going from being happy their kid makes GA to wondering why they had to purchase uniforms when their kid is never allowed to dress for games

Putting something on VRSC that hasn't even happened yet, let's see how it plays out. Until then, we could ask the FCV parents how they deal with it.

+100

[Anonymous]

It's almost like hey let's make up an excuse why they're allowed in our league.

[Anonymous]

theres a lot of ecnl parents that are worried about two GA teams. what children lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's almost like hey let's make up an excuse why they're allowed in our league.

When you compare it to the things that the GA cited in the announcement of all the other clubs that they recently accepted, that's very much what it was like. No one can make an honest argument that Revolution was accepted into GA based on anything that they've accomplished to date in terms of player development, coaching or performance on the field. This was based on them hiring 90% of the FCV coaches and hoping that they can convince existing FCV GA players to switch clubs. Like them or not, you can't argue that FCV generally had a good record overall in GA. The GA's announcement about accepting Revolution might as well have read "We know this announcement is going to raise some eyebrows because we're accepting a club that has no track record for developing players, coaches who mostly have C and D licenses, a TD who coaches but has no coaching credentials beyond grassroots and existing girls teams that struggle to win games in EDL/NCSL. In spite of all that, we believe in the FCV staff to either be able to convince FCV GA players to change clubs or, over the course of a few years, to be able to attract and develop players such that the club will be able to be competitive in our league. We also found buried in the fine print of the GA charter, a clause which states that we will accept any club who owns the facility where they practice."